Wayne
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What is karma and what is the association between karma and enlightenment? Is there such a thing as immediate enlightenment within the concept of karma?
Karma is what we call cause and effect. Whatever you sow, so shall you reap in the Bible, that is karma. Now, we can sow and we can reap, but then we can wipe off also. Therefore, Jesus, Buddha had to come to earth in order to help us to pay this terrible debt that we could not pay ourselves, which is called karma, which we sowed so many, now we reap so much. So some people like the Father, Son or the Buddha come down with unlimited merits, understand, and they can give anything you need, they can pay the debts for you. Because God is all merciful, limitless of grace and blessing, whatever you ask, you will get. If you knock, it will be opened.
Now mostly, we don't ask, we don't knock and we just knock our heads against the wall, so we get not much grace and blessing. And we think God is not merciful. God is. He always sends some of His messengers to the world like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, etc. to save us, to lead us back home. Despite our karma, in spite of our heavy debt, they can take us home and we can get immediate enlightenment through such persons' grace.
For example, now we are born in a very poor family. Our family, generation to generation, has been poor like that and we can never have any hope to get any richer or to get any better situation in the society. But then along comes a prince or a very big officer, and he has so limitless wealth and he happens to chance on our family and he happens to like us or like our daughter, wants to marry her. Then, we become different people, we become a different family, our position will change. However much debt we owe to the neighbors, or to the landlord in our region, he will pay with his own money and take us to the palace.
Now God is similar to a very rich, wealthy, billion, billion, billionaire. Whoever calls on Him, He will cleanse all the sins and make us angels, make us God-like. Why is it possible? Because there's nothing impossible with God, anyhow. If He can create the whole universe, He can just take us home if He so desires. But then because we do not know where God is, and between God and us, there exists a very thick curtain of so-called karma, so He needs to send someone looking like us in order to go through and shake hands with us and say, "Hey, come."
God is so intangible, so abstract. Even though He appeared to us, we would not see. We are used to seeing illusion, we are used to seeing concrete forms. If God appeared, we could not know, we could not recognize. So we need someone who is expert to tell us, "Oh! Yeah, what you saw yesterday, that is God, or let me make you see God in a moment, or in five minutes you will see Him. When you see such and such and such, that is God who appeared to you in such a form, or in such energy, in such wisdom." Then we understand.
So, you can get immediate enlightenment for sure. No doubt about that. We can see God immediately because God is within us. In the Bible it is said:
Know you not, that you are the temple of God and the Holy Spirit dwells within you.
If He is within us, then we could immediately see Him, no doubt. It's just a question of know-how.
Namaste,
Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Narrow is the way that leads to life, and broad is the way that leads to destruction and so many will walk therein." Jesus Christ
Karma is what we call cause and effect. Whatever you sow, so shall you reap in the Bible, that is karma. Now, we can sow and we can reap, but then we can wipe off also. Therefore, Jesus, Buddha had to come to earth in order to help us to pay this terrible debt that we could not pay ourselves, which is called karma, which we sowed so many, now we reap so much. So some people like the Father, Son or the Buddha come down with unlimited merits, understand, and they can give anything you need, they can pay the debts for you. Because God is all merciful, limitless of grace and blessing, whatever you ask, you will get. If you knock, it will be opened.
Now mostly, we don't ask, we don't knock and we just knock our heads against the wall, so we get not much grace and blessing. And we think God is not merciful. God is. He always sends some of His messengers to the world like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, etc. to save us, to lead us back home. Despite our karma, in spite of our heavy debt, they can take us home and we can get immediate enlightenment through such persons' grace.
For example, now we are born in a very poor family. Our family, generation to generation, has been poor like that and we can never have any hope to get any richer or to get any better situation in the society. But then along comes a prince or a very big officer, and he has so limitless wealth and he happens to chance on our family and he happens to like us or like our daughter, wants to marry her. Then, we become different people, we become a different family, our position will change. However much debt we owe to the neighbors, or to the landlord in our region, he will pay with his own money and take us to the palace.
Now God is similar to a very rich, wealthy, billion, billion, billionaire. Whoever calls on Him, He will cleanse all the sins and make us angels, make us God-like. Why is it possible? Because there's nothing impossible with God, anyhow. If He can create the whole universe, He can just take us home if He so desires. But then because we do not know where God is, and between God and us, there exists a very thick curtain of so-called karma, so He needs to send someone looking like us in order to go through and shake hands with us and say, "Hey, come."
God is so intangible, so abstract. Even though He appeared to us, we would not see. We are used to seeing illusion, we are used to seeing concrete forms. If God appeared, we could not know, we could not recognize. So we need someone who is expert to tell us, "Oh! Yeah, what you saw yesterday, that is God, or let me make you see God in a moment, or in five minutes you will see Him. When you see such and such and such, that is God who appeared to you in such a form, or in such energy, in such wisdom." Then we understand.
So, you can get immediate enlightenment for sure. No doubt about that. We can see God immediately because God is within us. In the Bible it is said:
Know you not, that you are the temple of God and the Holy Spirit dwells within you.
If He is within us, then we could immediately see Him, no doubt. It's just a question of know-how.
Namaste,
Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Narrow is the way that leads to life, and broad is the way that leads to destruction and so many will walk therein." Jesus Christ