Christian Tissier Says That Seagal ......

Seagal1969

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is not a great Aikido guy. He says that Seagal claimed to be a 5th degree black belt at a time when he was only a first degree black belt.

He says that Seagal is not as good in Aikido as he believes. Tissier holds a 8degree black belt in Aikido.

Watch for yourself. I´m surprised to hear that. I always thought that Seagal is really an Aikido expert but according to Tissier he isn´t.


 

Kotegashi

Master Of Disaster
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is not a great Aikido guy. He says that Seagal claimed to be a 5th degree black belt at a time when he was only a first degree black belt.

He says that Seagal is not as good in Aikido as he believes. Tissier holds a 8degree black belt in Aikido.

Watch for yourself. I´m surprised to hear that. I always thought that Seagal is really an Aikido expert but according to Tissier he isn´t.



Well since Seagal has gotten a 7th degree black belt straight from the Hombu Dojo I don't think we have to worry about it. They wouldn't acknowledge Seagal with such an honour if he didn't know his stuff.

Peace
 

Seagal1969

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Tissier is the highest rank European Aikido guy(8 degree). Why should he lie?
There´s no reason for that.

I presume that Steven Seagal is somehow treated like Elvis. Elvis was also a high degree black belt but his real prowess was not that good. Probobly the same with Seagal.

Seagal is not near Tissier´s Aikido level.
 

Kotegashi

Master Of Disaster
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Tissier is the highest rank European Aikido guy(8 degree). Why should he lie?
There´s no reason for that.

I presume that Steven Seagal is somehow treated like Elvis. Elvis was also a high degree black belt but his real prowess was not that good. Probobly the same with Seagal.

Seagal is not near Tissier´s Aikido level.

Maybe, maybe not. I've also heard and read stories about Tissier that when you analyse his aikido especially in slow motion that many a times it is obvious he 'misses' a technique and it all looks rehearsed.

Yes Seagal was promoted too fast when he had his own dojo in Japan, but since then, just like Tissier, he has had to stand up to the Hombo Dojo's (aikido's headquarter) scrutiny. And if I'm not mistaken he reached his degree before he became famous. He even was the first (and if not the only one up till now) foreigner to have his own dojo in Japan. So why would the japanes, a very disciplined people, treat him like Elvis? And why would they invite a 'bad' sensei to aikido expo back in 1993 in Japan.

So again, let's not dwell on this and worry too much about what Tissier is saying. It's an opinion, shared by some but there are many that have a different opinion.
Like so with the opinions of Seagal about martial artists like Van Damme, Norris, Michael Jai White, Jet Li and sorts. He talks negatively about them, even though all of them have proven themselves and hold one or several titles in their martial art.

Peace
 

Mazen

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Well what impressed me about Seagal at the time he had a very deep understanding of Aikido and could teach it very practically. I don't see a lot of Aikidoka teach it like that. For example in Seagal style of Aikido he use kenjutsu hand deflection and makes his randori as real as it can get. With that kind of training you develop a deep understanding what techniques work and don't work. To me that's what makes Seagal a great martial artist.
 
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