Dreams follow the echo of experience

Wayne

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Many path

Jalu and purple,

There are many paths to the Infinite Intelligence. One can take any road to arrive at this goal, for the Infinite Intelligence is omnipresent. By foccussing on the images veiled by dreams, True Knowledge can be born. Or by focussing on the thought of nothing that is sleep, one stabilize the mind in the Infinite Intelligence. The means are unimportant. The goal is everything.

You may ask what is the foundation of sleeping and dreaming? The support of all states of consciousness is the Infinite Intelligence. In the gap between the experience of states of consciousness, the Infinite Intelligence can be seen if one is awake enough to be looking for it. The result of finding it anywhere is to find it everywhere. So any place will do; what is required is to simply begin to look. By the way I've studied Tibetan Dream Yoga that was many years ago.

Love,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
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Purplelotus1

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Wayne said:
Jalu and purple,

There are many paths to the Infinite Intelligence. One can take any road to arrive at this goal, for the Infinite Intelligence is omnipresent. By foccussing on the images veiled by dreams, True Knowledge can be born. Or by focussing on the thought of nothing that is sleep, one stabilize the mind in the Infinite Intelligence. The means are unimportant. The goal is everything.

You may ask what is the foundation of sleeping and dreaming? The support of all states of consciousness is the Infinite Intelligence. In the gap between the experience of states of consciousness, the Infinite Intelligence can be seen if one is awake enough to be looking for it. The result of finding it anywhere is to find it everywhere. So any place will do; what is required is to simply begin to look. By the way I've studied Tibetan Dream Yoga that was many years ago.

Love,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"
So you have changed your view on the matter?
 

Wayne

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Point of reference.

Nope what I say does not contradicts first of all I do not discredit that there are other ways to unite to the source but what I am saying here is why analyze illusions when so much of Reality remains to be understood? You see in my teachings we use a tool (pure thought or an ideal thought) to access the Infinite intelligence means we don’t get caught up in the experience of it being dreams, clairvoyance, and many more.

My point of reference is the unchanging peace that passes human understanding that is the point that most meditation tries to get u "there". I use to learn Dream Yoga for a year but to me there were so much of guidelines that you needed to follow to interpret what it means.

And I can tell you something you have to know how to interpret correctly. I guess that was not for me till I found Ascension and it was the best tool that I’ve took up that change my and shaped my destiny. To understand who you are? Should not be so complicated not even as a cocept but a living truth.

Dreams are the experience of the truth but not the truth.

The truth is beyond understanding....Words are limited here. There is no right or wrong here its only how much one desires to know the truth or "how deep the rabbit hole do you want to go?" for me I am still going thru the rabbit hole what level am I in my awareness I don't care. What matters is the teachings along the way to unity. That is the goal.

Love,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"
 

Wayne

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Purplelotus1 said:
Wayne said:
Why analyze illusions when so much of Reality remains to be understood? Is that what you really want to belief in purple?


Love,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"[/QUOTE

Illusions?

In the waking state dreams are a process of stress release and therefor not a clear projection of anything other than past experiences.
There is nothing of real value to place any reference to growth of consciousness in dreams that are the result of the body releasing stress and there is more to gain in the waking experience of evolution.

I did not say dreams aren't of any value, I just says in the process of stress release the value may be hidden in the echos of past experiences and may have nothing to offer in the present that can't be extracted from the experience of the mind when it is awake and cognizant of feelings and experience.

As you probably know experiences are relative to beliefs, they are constantly evolving and changing, they are not permanent and are considered illusions of the mind. A dream that is an echo of the changing mind is not a stable point of reference.
 

Wayne

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Dream Yoga

Jalu said:
Once again...my question was about "Dream Yoga".
And I will share the reason once you answer it.
QUOTE]

You raise a valid point, and it is well taken. I don’t practice dream yoga anymore, and I understand that no translation of the experience comes close to doing it justice. My familiarity with Asension comes primarily from the Ishayas tradition, which I resonate with very deeply. I refer to this teachings from the early tradition the most because that is my background and the knowledge I am most familiar with.

I don’t speak or write about traditions that I have not experience as an authority or spokesperson, because I am neither. I don’t purposely ignore the teachings of any religion or tradition, I just speak on the knowledge my heart has led me to, whether it is Buddhism, a scientific study, or Cristianity. I also do not claim to be the "only way".

What I am most impressed with as I continue to explore the wisdom of the world is how alike all spiritual teachings are in their essential truths, and how unimportant their historical and cultural differences really are.

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Wayne Fonseca
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"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"
 

Purplelotus1

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why analyze illusions when so much of Reality remains to be understood?

My answer to this is that dreams for me are part of my reality. Now do you understand why they are just as important to me as waking states are to you?

Note: I want it noted that illusion is your word not mine .
 

Wayne

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Hello :D

I can't change your perception of reality nor disagree with the point, but in making a choice I can choose to see evolution in progress rather than conflict of interest or conflict in reality.

If I am happy with my experience there would seem to be no conflict, if I am sad there might seem to be conflict but if I surrender both emotions to the reality of perceptions and bring my point of attention back to the absolute there is no conflict of emotion only the absolute with the waves riding on the surface. There is no decision to be made if the wave is a happy wave or a sad wave even if I can recognize the difference there is no conflict only awareness.

There is no conflict in daylight changing into night or night changing into day if there is acceptance of the two coexisting in the same experience of a day.

Consequently what I share is my experience and as I move my attention outward riding on the experience I expand it into my reality and enliven the Truth of the absolute into every corner of the manifest as I do so.

If I choose to see another in struggle and rush to accept the struggle then I would be in conflict with my own experience of the absolute and it would be my choice to follow the thought stream to the illusion or the Truth.
The benefit is always mine to constantly reaffirm the Truth in the face of what is still seemingly outside of me, not to keep what is perceived as outside of myself separate and to heal the separate item.

I think you are being supported very well in your perceptions of reality, and are continuing to find more in yourself to see beyond.

Love,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"
 

Wayne

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Teachings

Anytime purple and if you have any links or teachings that you like. PM me I'd be glad to update on my website. Alot of work to be done just want a variety of teachings of this world on my website.

Love,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"
 

Wayne

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Ahh Yes.

Hi Purple,

I have read everything from Machiavelli a long time ago. And I live by a few of Machiavelli Philosophy. You reminded me again I need to write that on the website, Thank You.

Love

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"A man who wishes to act entirely up to his professions of virtue soon meets with what destroys him among so much that is evil." - Machiavelli
 
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