Hollywood Visit - Report

BillyRayLancing

New Member
I have returned from Hollywood - and my view of Seagal has unfortunatly not been improve, infact its been made worse.
We arrived on the Friday and after alot of internet reasearch checking differant sites we came up with 2282 Mandeville Canyon Rd in Brentwood as Stevens address. On the Saturday we proceeded to get a Taxi to Westwood and walk from there to his house - a journey of some 15 plus walking miles return as well as $70/80 in taxi fares. We got to the address - chinese dragons and pavillions were evident. However just as we were about to take our photos and leave a woman came down and after explaining our situation she told us that Steve didnt live there anymore, she recommeneded we get in contact with Steamroller Productions in Studio City to contact him and asked us to leave ASAP. After walking back having wasted a day of a 7 day holiday and extremely tired we started to think that mabye this woman was lieing to us to get rid of us. After all - why would someone working for the new owners know the address and name of Stevens production company. We decided to do some further research - we searched more sites and looked at 4/5 star maps - one that had been updated in January 2005 with Steven as a new addition - at 2282 Mandeville Canyon Rd - strange as the woman we spoke too said he'd moved out some time ago. We have come to the conclusion that this woman simply lied to us to get rid of us - an absolute disgrace considering the amount of time, effort and money we put into getting there from Hollywood - and getting to Hollywood from the UK, and considering all we wanted to do was take a quick photo outside.
The second thing that we found out is that when we rang Steamwroller we discovered that Steven never goes into his own Production offices and never met the woman who we spoke to (who is involved in the development of his films). This i find amazing - even if he works from home as she informed us, to never go into your own offices is astounding - simply from a staff moral standpoint. This could also explain the poorer nature of Stevens recent projects if hes never there to discuss pre production and development with the staff that are getting him his movie roles. As well as that she told us that Steven hadnt had any influence in Submergeds production. We think this could be the reason for his poorer quality films as of date as well - the fact that he turns up gets paid, films and leaves and doesnt hang around for post production may be the reasons for poor editing and the dubbing of his voice.
We sent Steamroller an email with out concerns about the way we were treated - explaining that if it wasnt Stevens house after all we apologise - but at the moment the evidence points towards the other way. Not a great outlook on Seagal at the moment.
 

Kcs

Member
You really ithink you are the only one who is intersted about these things? I think such an international star knows the way how to defend those who want to violate his privacy.

Not you were the only ones who wanted to take a photo from that house, I bet, so there is nothing to be surprised about the woman's behaviour.

I think it is a shame that somebody calls himself a fan of Seagal and doesn't respect his private life, goes to his (?) house, to his company etc.
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
BillyRayLancing - I'm sorry to say that I take a dim view of your actions. Most people will know on here that I am one of the first people to criticise Seagal if I disagree with his actions or am disappointed with one of his movies, but I fail to see your logic when you say that you "do not have a good outlook on Seagal at the moment". Your actions are akin to that of a stalker and I find it rather disturbing that one of the major reasons you travelled to Hollywood was simply to go and see Seagal's house! So what if the woman may have lied to get rid of you - I'm not surprised you were asked to leave without taking photos - look at it from her point of view - you could have been anyone. You are lucky she did not contact the local PD. Also, regardless of whether the property was Seagal's or not - why post the address on here? And as for wasting a day of your 7 day holiday - more fool you if you thought that your search for Seagal would bear fruit.

Also - why bother going to the trouble to contact Steamroller? It all sounds a little bit creepy if you ask me. It's no big deal that Seagal allegedly never goes into the Steamroller offices (which I find hard to believe), but even if he doesn't, as he is probably too busy with other things, he can contact anyone he needs to by e-mail, phone, or meet them in places away from the offices. Seagal is working at a steady rate and churning the films out as though his life depends on it - he most probably set up the Steamroller company so that staff who he employs can deal with the boring stuff such as development and pre/post production and he can get on with his own life such as acting in the movies, charity work and song writing.

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm being hard on you man - but I think you are being a little bit naive and you need to take a step back and get real.

GMan
 

hofmae

New Member
Kcs said:
You really ithink you are the only one who is intersted about these things? I think such an international star knows the way how to defend those who want to violate his privacy.

Not you were the only ones who wanted to take a photo from that house, I bet, so there is nothing to be surprised about the woman's behaviour.

I think it is a shame that somebody calls himself a fan of Seagal and doesn't respect his private life, goes to his (?) house, to his company etc.

I agree at some points... But you also must accept the fans. And she can be honest and say how it is (he hasn't got time, he's not here whatever...) but this smells like a lie... But thats normal for international Superstars. But if i were Steven i would make better contact to his fans.. Because a lot of his money actually are only done by fans who buy every dvd, even if the movie is worse.

But back to topic... I mean thats a big risk, i would be extremely surprised if you would meet him... I mean did you thought he will come out and say "Hello tough guys, come in and have a drink" :)

It would be nice... But thats Science-Fiction :) Im sure he's sitting in the Today you die Postproduction to make his voice-dubbing :)
 

BillyRayLancing

New Member
I think the first thing i need to say is that i never went to Hollywood to see his house. If my post came across as that then ill state that definatly wasnt a main reason at all. Also i didnt dilberatly waste a day going to his house - we didnt realise how far and long travelling to his house would take as we had never been to LA before. What we though would take a couple of hours max turned into a 6/7 hour trip! Third of all - people who say that we were breaking his privacy - we were standing outside his gate for about 3 minutes! The house was behind a massive fence and row of bushes and we couldnt see anything. Further more we were standing on a public road - i suppose anyone who walks along it is "invading his privacy" eh?! We just wanted to get a photo outside cos we though it would be quick and funny to show the people back home. However considering what it turned into - a massive hike - we were a bit hacked off that the woman didnt even want us to take a photo outside his gate - something we were perfectly entitled to do anyways considering we were on public propety! Also the reason we rang Steamroller was becasue we wanted to complain about the voice dubbing in Submereged after we bought a region 1 DVD player so we could watch it over there (35 dollars - pretty cheap). We thought that the fact they were advertising it as Seagal yet it was obviously dubbed for half the movie and stunt doubles were used in scenes that obviously didnt need them to us was an utter farce. We wanted to know what they had to say about releasing such a poor quality film effort.
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Welcome back-we could have told you that his address was on Mandeville road-a few photos of his front gate has been posted here before :)
Word is his neighbors aint' too thrilled with all the company-thus when he was having seminars there,they had to park down the hill in their cars & come up all together in a van.
Considering the distance you did travel-they could have been a little more polite to ya,but when someone is hounded-they lose patience :(
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
I know for a fact Steven was still there as of February. Just out of curiosity, what did the woman look like?
 

BillyRayLancing

New Member
The woman from Steamroller said he was out of town on a presonal visit - besides the point really as we never expected to meet him, we just wanted a photo with his gate - lol. One woman was American with blondish hair and there was another chinese woman who didnt say anything.
 

BillyRayLancing

New Member
To be honest if Stevens telling his staff to lie to his fans who just want to take a photo of his gate - that is an utter farce. If i was a multi millionaire becasue my fans still went out and bought my subpar b movies then id let them take as many photos as they wanted. Intrestingly it was the woman who came down to us - we didnt even buzz his door or anything! As for his neighbours being annoyed - the only one we saw outside there house smiled and waved at us!
 

hofmae

New Member
BillyRayLancing said:
To be honest if Stevens telling his staff to lie to his fans who just want to take a photo of his gate - that is an utter farce. If i was a multi millionaire becasue my fans still went out and bought my subpar b movies then id let them take as many photos as they wanted. Intrestingly it was the woman who came down to us - we didnt even buzz his door or anything! As for his neighbours being annoyed - the only one we saw outside there house smiled and waved at us!

I agree with that... But in fact i can't say how i would be to my fans... Maybe he really has to do a lot so he hasn't got time... But i don't know....
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
I am not surprise it was a hard job but you tried...!!:D
Please Don't angry him and he is right .. He is celebrity and he has some rules like other celebrities..
He can not say hello to all of his fans.. of course he would try to avoid himself..
Also I don't believe his house is sold in Brentwood.But I know yes he is not in Los Angeles in these days..

suzi
 

hofmae

New Member
suziwong said:
I am not surprise it was a hard job but you tried...!!:D
Please Don't angry him and he is right .. He is celebrity and he has some rules like other celebrities..
He can not say hello to all of his fans.. of course he would try to avoid himself..
Also I don't believe his house is sold in Brentwood.But I know yes he is not in Los Angeles in these days..

suzi

You know everything suzi :)

Im not sure if anyone asked: What type of relationship do you have to Steven?
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
hofmae said:
You know everything suzi :)

Im not sure if anyone asked: What type of relationship do you have to Steven?

A very close one - right, suzi? :D :D :D (Suzi - also known as Super Spy Suzi!)
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
TDWoj said:
A very close one - right, suzi? :D :D :D (Suzi - also known as Super Spy Suzi!)

hihihihihihii !!! No Comment more...:D

But it is not a mystery we saw last week his photos.. He played golf in Memphis.. Later Billy wrote in his "California visit.." thread that he wasn't in town.. !! it means he is not in LA in these daysssssss... ;) ;)
 

hofmae

New Member
suziwong said:
hihihihihihii !!! No Comment more...:D

But it is not a mystery we saw last week his photos.. He played golf in Memphis.. Later Billy wrote in his "California visit.." thread that he wasn't in town.. !! it means he is not in LA in these daysssssss... ;) ;)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :) Oh suzi.... I give you some answers to choose:

1. I am Steven's girlfriend
2. I am Steven's sister
3. I had an affair with Steven
4. Im a good friend of Steven
5. Who the **** is Steven?
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
hofmae said:
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :) Oh suzi.... I give you some answers to choose:

1. I am Steven's girlfriend
2. I am Steven's sister
3. I had an affair with Steven
4. Im a good friend of Steven
5. Who the **** is Steven?

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!:p

I respect and admire him !!! No more comment..... !!!:D
 
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