Into The Sun Reviews

latinojazz

Well-Known Member
don wilkey said:
to see Steven Seagal get up from his bar seat upon receiving a flicked pebble to his chest from one of the yakuza gang members and then use his devastatingly fast and powerful aikido flips and throws to protect himself against all those yakuza urchins in this film
Then to hear Steven's charater say to the yakuza, "Go home and learn how to fight!"

Go home and learn how to fight and come back in 10 years!!!

That´s more or less the right line.Yes, it´s funny, but maybe if the guy come back in ten years could kick the 65 Seagal ass...

In my opinion the best of the movie are the latest 20 minutes of bloody sword revenge.He shows that he is a really master in Kendo, and the bokken Aikido work of Seagal is superb.And the chinese buddies(the tattoo guy and the girl)are very good chosen.

It´s a good movie Into The Sun.Theatrical released in Japan.That explains the lot of japanese dialog.
 

Wrist-Snapper

Seagalatron
mink said:
Boo-ya ... Whats up wrist snapper? Great ID.... peace mink

Great to see you're still around Mink! I am watching Steven's recent films in order and I'm very much looking forward to discussing INTO THE SUN with its director once I've viewed it. I think it a real coup for the forum (and kudos to you) to offer this kind of interaction.

I do have one question before I view: what films did you watch in preparation for the shoot?
 

mink

New Member
Wrist-Snapper said:
Great to see you're still around Mink! I am watching Steven's recent films in order and I'm very much looking forward to discussing INTO THE SUN with its director once I've viewed it. I think it a real coup for the forum (and kudos to you) to offer this kind of interaction.

I do have one question before I view: what films did you watch in preparation for the shoot?
I watched all of Steven's pictures, The original Yakuza(Sydney Pollack), Black Rain, Thief, Clear & Present Danger, Heat, A bunch of Japanese Yakuza Films, Icchi the Killer, Battle Royale, Crouching Tiger, Hero(Original version), Ghost in the Shell, Sleepless nights, Tokyo Godfathers, Tears of the Sun, Payback the list goes on.
 

mink

New Member
latinojazz said:
Go home and learn how to fight and come back in 10 years!!!

That´s more or less the right line.Yes, it´s funny, but maybe if the guy come back in ten years could kick the 65 Seagal ass...

In my opinion the best of the movie are the latest 20 minutes of bloody sword revenge.He shows that he is a really master in Kendo, and the bokken Aikido work of Seagal is superb.And the chinese buddies(the tattoo guy and the girl)are very good chosen.

It´s a good movie Into The Sun.Theatrical released in Japan.That explains the lot of japanese dialog.

Doomo Latin Jazz... mink-san
 

Wrist-Snapper

Seagalatron
mink said:
I watched all of Steven's pictures, The original Yakuza(Sydney Pollack), Black Rain, Thief, Clear & Present Danger, Heat, A bunch of Japanese Yakuza Films, Icchi the Killer, Battle Royale, Crouching Tiger, Hero(Original version), Ghost in the Shell, Sleepless nights, Tokyo Godfathers, Tears of the Sun, Payback the list goes on.

Yes, I would imagine THE YAKUZA would be up there. I suggested Steven made a film in this vein when I received a reply stating INTO THE SUN was originally called THE YAKUZA!! I am hoping it will be a mix of THE YAKUZA (Pollack) and Frankenheimer's THE CHALLENGE. That's a great direction for Steven to go.
 

mink

New Member
don wilkey said:
to see Steven Seagal get up from his bar seat upon receiving a flicked pebble to his chest from one of the yakuza gang members and then use his devastatingly fast and powerful aikido flips and throws to protect himself against all those yakuza urchins in this film
Then to hear Steven's charater say to the yakuza, "Go home and learn how to fight!"
Thanks ... I love that scene. The pebble is something that I saw in fight when I was kid... peace mink
 
mink said:
Opinions are never wrong they are as they sound... opinions. Film is an art as in all art 50% of the audience will love it and 50% of the audience will hate it and thats the way it works... Im glad you enjoy the directors work that you have mentioned and keep enjoying them...You also seem educated in the filmmaking process and thats cool too.. The fans are the ones that keep us all working behind the lends so I thank you for buying those DVD's and caring enough to notice the details in the work and the subtle difference in each director brings to his or her work... best to you and keep enjoying... peace mink

Theres a great book called Directing the Film its AFI curric... If you havent read its a easy read and full of great insight into the process...



Yup, that's true that opinions are never wrong and I agree about 50/50. You know...the whole 50/50 thing with films that should be made to make people like it or not, it's something that I'm trying to figure out especially with the new story that I'm working on right now. Actually it's a romance thriller but it's more of like a mix of everything from any genre except musicals which is uneasy to write about but the way I see it...I can pull it off because at some of those points, I don't get why females are so attracted to a movie like Titanic but I do know that most of them are suckers for romance and guys don't watch romance movies that much. So that's when I decided to try something different to make both genders to feel attracted to a movie that satisfy them. That's goes with Lord of the Rings too (a movie that I hated) but the only difference for my story is that, it's not something that comes from a novel or a remake or something that comes from a historical event.


Anyway, with the whole 50/50 thing, that's why I learned how to like any films unless there are some bad filmmaking being shown on a movie. If a film that doesn't have a well-pacing stuff going on then I don't see it as a good movie. Lord of the Rings 1 shows a good example of why I didn't like it because it was slow and nothing that was entertaining. Sometimes I have been asking myself why people bring this up that Peter Jackson is a great director or that Lord of the Rings was a great movie ever. I don't see him as a great director but just a good director because like I said, I believe that every director is a good director unless there are some exceptions. I even find 2nd one better than 1 and 3 because it was a well-paced movie and it kept me entertained.

And people kept praising for The Godfather as the best film ever. I tend to not bring that thing up because I'm not going to argue with their opinions about it but if I compare that movie with Martin Scorsese's GoodFellas. I find GoodFellas as a better film than GodFather because the film had so much energy and it kept me going for a good 2 1/2 hours of running time. Both films are different at some levels but it is based on same type of films which is under mobster films.
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
8/10 ...I loved the movie the only disappointing thing was that when he / there spoke in Japanese maybe they should have had subtitles because i for one would have liked to have known what they were talking about all the time not some of the time...other then that he was at his bad best...wonder if there is an Into The Sun 2 in the future...
 

Heroic

New Member
"Into The Sun" is of course the best steven of recent years. But the film could be more "professional". These (compared to the rest of the movie) really bad "high-speed-scenes" and this strange techno music (i think it was something like that) don't fit to the rest of the movie.

Nevertheless this movie pushed steven out of the pit of trash movies.
 

mink

New Member
ORANGATUANG said:
8/10 ...I loved the movie the only disappointing thing was that when he / there spoke in Japanese maybe they should have had subtitles because i for one would have liked to have known what they were talking about all the time not some of the time...other then that he was at his bad best...wonder if there is an Into The Sun 2 in the future...
Hey O... Theyre should be subtitles on all the DVD's when I saw the final print master it had the subtitles on it. I know the Japanese DVD which is the best presentation of the movie definatly has them as well as a 45 min making of the movie, deleted scenes and trailers for other japanese movies. Plus the box cover art is off the chain my friend who did all the kill bill and bunch of Yakuza movies did it and the website. Check the flash game rock paper scissors with steven its funny...

peace mink

http://www.sonypictures.jp/homevideo/intothesun/
 

Wrist-Snapper

Seagalatron
ORANGATUANG said:
8/10 ...I loved the movie the only disappointing thing was that when he / there spoke in Japanese maybe they should have had subtitles because i for one would have liked to have known what they were talking about all the time not some of the time...other then that he was at his bad best...wonder if there is an Into The Sun 2 in the future...

As I understand it, the R1 and R2 European DVDs have a flaw. The Japanese sequences have subtitles, but in order to see them, you must turn the English subtitles on. You can now understand what is being said in the Japanese sequences, the downside is that the English-speaking sequences will also be subtitled (unless you switch on and off between scenes)!
 

Administrator

Administrator
Staff member
mink said:
Hey O... Theyre should be subtitles on all the DVD's when I saw the final print master it had the subtitles on it. I know the Japanese DVD which is the best presentation of the movie definatly has them as well as a 45 min making of the movie, deleted scenes and trailers for other japanese movies. Plus the box cover art is off the chain my friend who did all the kill bill and bunch of Yakuza movies did it and the website. Check the flash game rock paper scissors with steven its funny...

peace mink

http://www.sonypictures.jp/homevideo/intothesun/
Hi Mink, i have a question. Who's idea was it to use so much of Steven Seagal's music in the movie? We spotted quite a few songs from his album, 'Songs From The Crystal Cave' in the movie.

Unfortunately Steven always seems to beat me at rock, paper, scissors. :(

Are the TVCM commercials for Japanese television?
 

mink

New Member
Craig Robertson said:
Hi Mink, i have a question. Who's idea was it to use so much of Steven Seagal's music in the movie? We spotted quite a few songs from his album, 'Songs From The Crystal Cave' in the movie.

Unfortunately Steven always seems to beat me at rock, paper, scissors. :(

Are the TVCM commercials for Japanese television?

I wanted to use as much of Steven's music in the movie as possible. He was recording the album during the prep of the movie so I fell in love with a couple of the songs and they really fit the movie and he was cool enough to let us use them. The other groups are friends of mine and Stanley Clarke pulled some favors to get some additional stuff. As far as I know yes the commercials were for JP television. Sony JP spent a considerable amount on the advertising for the film across the board. They were fantastic to be honest. They did a press junket and did 6-10 magazine and tv interviews as well as give aways(The Boxer shorts were my favorite) and posters all over Tokyo. You couldnt get away from it. The result was a very respectable 3-4 week box office run with a healty gross for ninety screens(thats alot for Japan) country wide for the film during the holiday season of 2k5.

peace mink
 
Mink,

Into the Sun was shot in 1.85:1, was that due to budget constraints, or do you prefer to shoot in that ratio as opposed to Scope?
 

mink

New Member
gunslinger said:
Mink,

Into the Sun was shot in 1.85:1, was that due to budget constraints, or do you prefer to shoot in that ratio as opposed to Scope?

No it was shot super 35 but transfered 1:85 in post by Sony when they mastered it... I prefer to shoot super 35 when at all possible.

peace mink
 
Does that mean that if the film had received a theatrical release, it would have been in scope, as Super 35 can be used for both, depending on the processing?
 

mink

New Member
gunslinger said:
Does that mean that if the film had received a theatrical release, it would have been in scope, as Super 35 can be used for both, depending on the processing?
If the studio had chosen so yes. When I shot the movie I framed super 35. So they could have done a lot of things. We also talked about a DI at one point as well. Super 35 is just nice because you can use almost any lens and then the conversion is done later as opposed to using the anamorphic lenses while you shoot which are a little cumbersome at times.

Great questions have a good weekend... peace mink
 
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