Last Seagal movie you watched?

[derekwyo]

Decided to rewatch 2006's Shadow Man for the umpteenth time. Another one that changed A LOT from inception to delivery, from something unique and maybe more in line with the tone/pacing of The Patriot (?) but ultimately dialed back to another super-layered, multi-Govt incompetence, kinda-Spy Actioner. I actually find myself liking Shadow Man more as the years go by. I like the opening scene of him teaching in the dojo (even if he's a tad cruel to one student) where it's clear he's a natural teacher and in his element here. The drug house fight is good for the era, and I still crack up in the drug house scene when he says, "Can you fill a prescription?" and "That's syphilis!" And Eva Pope pulls her weight respectably, sometimes the female co-stars are more about being picturesque than a performer, and I felt Eva pulled both off well.
I'd place Shadow Man somewhere in the middle of his DTV era efforts.

 

[derekwyo]

Last year, a director's cut was announced to be releasing and was even put up for preorder over at: https://yippeekiyaymothervideo.com/products/enter-the-pyuniverse but it's since been pulled. Maybe they'll decide to go forward with it again sometime. They have the rights to distribute Albert Pyun's works since his death I read in an interview.

Good news, I wrote them and they said the Ticker release is still moving forward. But since it's a small, in house release they got sidetracked doing another of Pyun's films, but Ticker is still on the menu.

 

[JohnAlexander]

Watched The Onion Movie the other day. Dunno if that counts as a Seagal movie. But you know what? It was funny. It made me laugh a few times. And I really enjoyed Steven's cameo as THE COCKPUNCHER.

 

[derekwyo]

Watched The Onion Movie the other day. Dunno if that counts as a Seagal movie. But you know what? It was funny. It made me laugh a few times. And I really enjoyed Steven's cameo as THE COCKPUNCHER.

"I don't think you have the balls."

Oh, it's absolutely a Seagal movie. lol I hope and pray that Seagal will star in a full-length feature Cockpuncher film. He could play the aged, wise, Cockpuncher who must now train a new protege to punch cocks with extreme prejudice.

 

[Zargo]

I re-watched "Black Dawn" last night. It was okay. Interestingly, Vern gives it a good review and states that he feels Seagal is well-invested in the movie. I felt similarly upon watching, but that doesn't quite tie-in with the director's comments on working with him, which sounds a similar story to Submerged.
On wikipedia/ IMDB it "informs" that Steven left the production after 18 of the 30 day shoot, which is why he's absent for a lot of the action but I'm not sure if that is true, as the director didn't mention that. He only said Steven refused to do fights.

The main difference between this and Submerged however is that clearly Seagal was around and willing to do his ADR recording, so that doesn't really support the his leaving early theory.

Clearly he had a very variable work ethic during this era, moving quickly from project to project with a giant diva attitude, being able to get away with anything as just his name and mug on the DVD cover was enough to shift massive units.

 

[derekwyo]

I re-watched "Black Dawn" last night. It was okay. Interestingly, Vern gives it a good review and states that he feels Seagal is well-invested in the movie. I felt similarly upon watching, but that doesn't quite tie-in with the director's comments on working with him, which sounds a similar story to Submerged.
On wikipedia/ IMDB it "informs" that Steven left the production after 18 of the 30 day shoot, which is why he's absent for a lot of the action but I'm not sure if that is true, as the director didn't mention that. He only said Steven refused to do fights.

The main difference between this and Submerged however is that clearly Seagal was around and willing to do his ADR recording, so that doesn't really support the his leaving early theory.

Clearly he had a very variable work ethic during this era, moving quickly from project to project with a giant diva attitude, being able to get away with anything as just his name and mug on the DVD cover was enough to shift massive units.

I like Black Dawn, and though I wish Seagal did do a couple fights (or something physical like that), I did think he was more invested in acting here and did alright. It's a surprisingly watchable movie that I enjoy.

 

[Zargo]

Yeah, I agree, despite my luke-warm "okay" assessment of it. That's why I was surprised by how much of a "nightmare" he apparently was.

Incidentally, does anyone know if the "Today you die" Italian blu ray is any good? I don't have it on DVD and it doesn't seem to be easy to find for streaming either.

 

[Zargo]

I did buy the Italian blu in the end. The movie was entertaining, but the highlight was definitely the first part of the film, in which Seagal plays a more vulnerable and dumber character then usual, being tricked so easily by the "baddie," and lying helpless on the ground calling his wife.

The rest is fun, but pretty reminiscent of Glimmer Man / Half Past Dead.

The blu comes with a suprisingly insightful making-of. It's on youtube:

 

[JohnAlexander]

I did buy the Italian blu in the end. The movie was entertaining, but the highlight was definitely the first part of the film, in which Seagal plays a more vulnerable and dumber character then usual, being tricked so easily by the "baddie," and lying helpless on the ground calling his wife.

The rest is fun, but pretty reminiscent of Glimmer Man / Half Past Dead.

The blu comes with a suprisingly insightful making-of. It's on youtube:

I don't remember this movie at all. Is there a lot of action? Is it worth a watch?

 

[Zargo]

There is some decent action, though the truck/ car chase scene was apparently lifted from another movie.

The doubling is not over-obvious, I just wish they hadn't shot the fight scenes so close-up, because you can see in the making-of that Seagal looks good doing his moves. No looping his voice with someone else. A nice relationship with his wife in the movie and Steve has a bit of chemistry with her and looks like he's trying hard most of the time.

Some elements of the story are a real head-scratcher, but it was a fun movie and I certainly think it's worth your time.

 

[latinojazz]

I did buy the Italian blu in the end. The movie was entertaining, but the highlight was definitely the first part of the film, in which Seagal plays a more vulnerable and dumber character then usual, being tricked so easily by the "baddie," and lying helpless on the ground calling his wife.

The rest is fun, but pretty reminiscent of Glimmer Man / Half Past Dead.

The blu comes with a suprisingly insightful making-of. It's on youtube:

Thank you for the making of!!

 

[JohnAlexander]

There is some decent action, though the truck/ car chase scene was apparently lifted from another movie.

The doubling is not over-obvious, I just wish they hadn't shot the fight scenes so close-up, because you can see in the making-of that Seagal looks good doing his moves. No looping his voice with someone else. A nice relationship with his wife in the movie and Steve has a bit of chemistry with her and looks like he's trying hard most of the time.

Some elements of the story are a real head-scratcher, but it was a fun movie and I certainly think it's worth your time.

Watched it last night. A lot of cool action scenes. My only thought is that it feels a little like Submerged or Kill Switch where there were a lot of cut elements/the plot was changed midway through production, resulting in that head scratching feeling. The movie clearly had some occult undertones that were never properly explored. Also, I don't think we ever figure out where exactly the money was, and how he knew where to find it.

 

[derekwyo]

Today You Die was rather enjoyable, I thought there was some good levity and humor throughout. He and Treach had good chemistry as well and their bantering was fun.

 

[JohnAlexander]

Today You Die was rather enjoyable, I thought there was some good levity and humor throughout. He and Treach had good chemistry as well and their bantering was fun.

Also they walked away from explosions without looking back, which as everyone knows, IS BADASS.

 

[derekwyo]

I decided to rewatch Today You Die today after reading the thread. I enjoy this one and I liked Seagal's acting here, I like when he plays it a bit more fallible (I use that term loosely) and, at times, is clearly in over his head. I also liked the relationship portrayal, it felt sincere.
I do agree though that the occult/supernatural overtones weren't satisfactorily concluded. I felt like Max was supposed to be something more sinister and him saying he was evil or had something evil inside him wasn't just bad guy rambling. Maybe they felt they were stepping on the toes of Belly of the Beast a bit too soon? Oh well.

 

[JohnAlexander]

I decided to rewatch Today You Die today after reading the thread. I enjoy this one and I liked Seagal's acting here, I like when he plays it a bit more fallible (I use that term loosely) and, at times, is clearly in over his head. I also liked the relationship portrayal, it felt sincere.
I do agree though that the occult/supernatural overtones weren't satisfactorily concluded. I felt like Max was supposed to be something more sinister and him saying he was evil or had something evil inside him wasn't just bad guy rambling. Maybe they felt they were stepping on the toes of Belly of the Beast a bit too soon? Oh well.

I suspect (I have nothing to back this up) that this was a Submerged/Attack Force/Kill Switch type deal where they were originally gonna go for something a little more "out there" but they decided at the very last minute to scrap that whole aspect. I feel like other than Belly of the Beast, we kinda missed out on a lot of good opportunities for some Seagal versus supernatural. There was also Against The Dark, but that movie frankly sucked, because Seagal's role in it was limited to a glorified cameo.

 

[derekwyo]

I suspect (I have nothing to back this up) that this was a Submerged/Attack Force/Kill Switch type deal where they were originally gonna go for something a little more "out there" but they decided at the very last minute to scrap that whole aspect. I feel like other than Belly of the Beast, we kinda missed out on a lot of good opportunities for some Seagal versus supernatural. There was also Against The Dark, but that movie frankly sucked, because Seagal's role in it was limited to a glorified cameo.

I always felt that Seagal had a want to branch out and try different things, like Horror. He's done some Comedy (My Giant, The Onion Movie), he's tried more Dramatic/Less Fighting (The Patriot, Black Dawn, Sniper: Special Ops, Gutshot Straight, etc), and seeing how many of his films tried to dabble in Horror or Supernatural tells me this is something he's always wanted to do. At what stage they get cold feet varies.

 

[derekwyo]

I also just watched Arrow's 4K UHD Blu-ray of Under Siege today, and that looks terrific. Highly recommended.
The interviews don't give a ton about Seagal, Andrew Davis seems indifferent towards him-even refers to Seagal during Under Siege-era as "arrogant" but also speaks complimenting of Seagal's fighting and military knowledge such as the Sat Phone ("Car Phone"). Erika Eleniak seems to offer a bit more positive of an outlook about Seagal-says Seagal had good days where he was fun and joked a lot and others where he just did his stuff and was off. but also seems generally indifferent.

But the transfer and sound improvements are noteworthy and sincere improvements over the existing WB Blu-ray on the market, which itself is a port of an even earlier HD-DVD when Warner backed that format. It's worth the $25-ish and looks good on the shelf.

 

[latinojazz]

I also just watched Arrow's 4K UHD Blu-ray of Under Siege today, and that looks terrific. Highly recommended.
The interviews don't give a ton about Seagal, Andrew Davis seems indifferent towards him-even refers to Seagal during Under Siege-era as "arrogant" but also speaks complimenting of Seagal's fighting and military knowledge such as the Sat Phone ("Car Phone"). Erika Eleniak seems to offer a bit more positive of an outlook about Seagal-says Seagal had good days where he was fun and joked a lot and others where he just did his stuff and was off. but also seems generally indifferent.

But the transfer and sound improvements are noteworthy and sincere improvements over the existing WB Blu-ray on the market, which itself is a port of an even earlier HD-DVD when Warner backed that format. It's worth the $25-ish and looks good on the shelf.

looks good on the shelf....then it's really worth it!!!! I don't need more
reasons!!! lol you killed me derek!!

About the extras, look like Seagal is living rent-free in their heads!!

 

[latinojazz]

I suspect (I have nothing to back this up) that this was a Submerged/Attack Force/Kill Switch type deal where they were originally gonna go for something a little more "out there" but they decided at the very last minute to scrap that whole aspect. I feel like other than Belly of the Beast, we kinda missed out on a lot of good opportunities for some Seagal versus supernatural. There was also Against The Dark, but that movie frankly sucked, because Seagal's role in it was limited to a glorified cameo.

Hey you, don't talk sh** about Against The Dark, I liked that film, bro!! lol the (cruel) way Seagal killed the zombie kid was awesome!!

But the movie needed more Seagal screen time, that's very true!