"Obey the law!!"

[Hallarian]

I know where you are coming from Mama San

I have been there too. I like ERA except I can't stand the screamers and anti-men. In the beginning nurses (most of us were women then) put up a lot from From Drs. (mostly men). One surgeon demanded that I carry out a hazardous and heavy problem because as he put it, "I make my living with my hands." I looked at my hands and womdered what he thought I'd do without mine. I believe in full human rights for all who accept the responsibilities that go with them. I do like respect and kindness from everyone and expect that others have the right to expect it from me.

 

[kokoro]

Originally posted by Lotussan
Poor kokoro....Keep being a gentleman, I'm just one woman, but I do really appreciate a man with some manners, I don't think it's too much to ask...

Hi lotus,
I dunno about the " poor kokoro " part, but I think anyone with manners ought to be appreciated

 

[Lotussan]

Well, being turned into the principal sounds unfair is all I meant...

 

[TDWoj]

Originally posted by kokoro

Your expectation saddens me a little, I think you should expect to be well treated, and if not, the guy is not worth knowing, but there are good blokes out there, and bad, just like women. I hope you bump into a good bloke!!

Rob

Don't I wish I could! Alas, at my age, the good blokes are either all taken, or all wanting younger women - like a certain someone we all, um, like! - not realising, of course, what a middle-aged (single since forever!) woman has to offer... Or they want someone that looks like whoever is gracing the cover of Cosmopolitan that month (which I never will). Indeed, most of the 'good blokes' I've known would rather have a brain dead bimbo hanging off their arm than someone intelligent, witty and charming, though perhaps not drop-dead gorgeous (I do clean up nicely, though, when I put my mind to it).

Bad luck? Bad kharma? I don't know.

Thanks for your kind thoughts, though! I continue to live in hope, though hope dwindles with each passing day!

(Question: is 'kokoro' a Maori word, and if so, what does it mean?)

 

[TDWoj]

Originally posted by kokoro
The first time I held the door open for a female school teacher, I was marched to the principles office for a commendation( I think I was 11). The teacher (in her 50's) was overwhelmed. I'm still not sure if it was because 'I' held it open, or because I was male and I thougth it was just the normal thing to do!!

Rob

A gentleman! A gentleman at last!

Seriously, keep up the good work.

 

[kokoro]

Originally posted by TDWoj
Don't I wish I could! Alas, at my age, the good blokes are either all taken, or all wanting younger women - like a certain someone we all, um, like! - not realising, of course, what a middle-aged (single since forever!) woman has to offer... Or they want someone that looks like whoever is gracing the cover of Cosmopolitan that month (which I never will). Indeed, most of the 'good blokes' I've known would rather have a brain dead bimbo hanging off their arm than someone intelligent, witty and charming, though perhaps not drop-dead gorgeous (I do clean up nicely, though, when I put my mind to it).

Bad luck? Bad kharma? I don't know.

Thanks for your kind thoughts, though! I continue to live in hope, though hope dwindles with each passing day!

(Question: is 'kokoro' a Maori word, and if so, what does it mean?)

bahhh humbug!! my partner is 15 yrs older than I, it'll happen, just be positive and steer clear of those " I do not expect to be treated well " comments, ok?
I can tell you NO man wants a brainless bimbo on his arm, they want that for the bedroom!! The intelligent, witty charming lady is what they want for their arm and most of the time for the rest of their lives.
Hope does not dwindle, hope is forever there. It's only our motivation to hold on to it that dwindles.

'kokoro' is Japanese, it means Heart, Mind & Spirit, the kanji is the same as 'shin'.

 

[kokoro]

Originally posted by TDWoj
A gentleman! A gentleman at last!

Seriously, keep up the good work.

Thanks muchly, to quote a famous kid from a famous movie......

" I see gentlemanly people....there everywhere"

 

[kokoro]

Originally posted by Lotussan
Well, being turned into the principal sounds unfair is all I meant...

ahh communication error....

wasn't unfair at all Lotus, a commendation is an award. It was the first of 3 occasions of my school life that I actually went to the principle's office for something good!!

 

[Lotussan]

Oh, duh...My bad...I just got confused, sorry koko...I have too much Seagal on my mind.... The torch is still burning like mad, as if you didn't know...

 

[TDWoj]

Originally posted by kokoro
bahhh humbug!! my partner is 15 yrs older than I, it'll happen, just be positive and steer clear of those " I do not expect to be treated well " comments, ok?
I can tell you NO man wants a brainless bimbo on his arm, they want that for the bedroom!! The intelligent, witty charming lady is what they want for their arm and most of the time for the rest of their lives.
Hope does not dwindle, hope is forever there. It's only our motivation to hold on to it that dwindles.

It's convincing the bloke that he doesn't really want the brainless bimbo any more that is often the problem... <g>

'kokoro' is Japanese, it means Heart, Mind & Spirit, the kanji is the same as 'shin'.

Cool! I like!

 

[Lotussan]

LOL, ok Brainless Bimbo I'm not! I don't think you can convince a man of anything, he has to want what he wants and if he wants you for you, then that's great...I can only hope, as kokoro says...

 

[TDWoj]

<editorial observation>

Interesting how an even off-topic topic drifts off-topic from the original topic - now how to make it come back on-topic to the original off-topic message!

 

[Mama San]

If the woman wants a driver's license
then she had better show her "entire"
face or do without!!
God bless,
Mama san

 

[TDWoj]

Good on you, mama san!

 

[Amos Stevens]

Judge Won't Allow Veil in Driver License Photo




Sultaana Freeman and her husband, Abdul-Maalik Freeman, listen as their attorney talks with the news media Friday in Orlando, Fla. A judge ruled Sultaana Freeman can't wear a veil in her driver license photo. (Peter Cosgrove/The Associated Press)
By Mike Branom
The Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Florida judge ruled Friday that a Muslim woman cannot wear a veil in her driver license photo, agreeing with state authorities that the practice could help terrorists conceal their identities.
After hearing three days of testimony last week, Circuit Judge Janet Thorpe ruled that Sultaana Freeman's right to free exercise of religion would not be infringed by having to show her face on her license.
Thorpe said the state "has a compelling interest in protecting the public from criminal activities and security threats," and that photo identification "is essential to promote that interest."
Freeman, 35, had obtained a license in 2001 that showed her veiled with only her eyes visible through a slit. But after the Sept. 11 attacks, the state demanded that she return to have her photo retaken with her face uncovered. She refused, and the state revoked her license.
Freeman sued the state of Florida, saying it would violate her Islamic beliefs to show her face publicly.
Her case was taken up by the American Civil Liberties Union, which saw the case as a test of religious freedom. Conservative commentators ridiculed the case, saying it would be absurd to allow people to obscure their faces in ID photos.
Assistant Attorney General Jason Vail had argued that Islamic law has exceptions that allow women to expose their faces if it serves a public good, and that arrangements could be made to have Freeman photographed with only women present to allay her concerns about modesty.
Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist praised Friday's decision, saying, "Nothing is more important than making sure that our people are safe."
The ACLU of Florida said it was disappointed in Thorpe's statement that while Freeman "most likely poses no threat to national security," others may take advantage of a ruling in her favor to threaten lives.
"So we have to infringe on Freeman's religious beliefs because of what someone else might do," ACLU legal director Randall Marshall said. "It seems to be a funny kind of interpretation on how the law should apply."
Marshall noted that a driver license can be obtained without a photo in 14 states.
Freeman's lawyers argued that instead of a driver license photo, she could use other documents such as a birth certificate or Social Security card to prove her identity.
Freeman, a convert to Islam previously known as Sandra Kellar, started wearing a veil in 1997.