Out For A Kill

Out for a kill release in France

Hello everybody,

Anyone know the date of release of Out for a kill DVD in France.
Thanks for the response.
For information Half Past Dead DVD (Title french: Mission Alcatraz) will be released the 7 November in France.
See You.............................................
 

Amos Stevens

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These are the only dates IMDB.com has



Release dates for
Out for a Kill (2003)

Country Date
UK 18 August 2003 (video premiere)
Argentina 19 August 2003 (video premiere)
USA 19 August 2003 (video premiere)
Italy 28 August 2003
 

seagaljr

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its wonderfull out for a kill

i have seen the movie out for a kill today is very good and the part whit the sword i love it and i love sensei h'is work keep it up en never be old so that you alway's keep making wunderfoll movies :yin:
 

suziwong

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Staff member
I agree with you. all fighting scenes were very nice ! and I liked them. Sensei is still the best !! isn't it ??
 

nashpl

New Member
Hi All

Out For A Kill finally released here in Australia. I have rented it for tonight, and I am looking forward to watching the fights. I have a good feeling about the fighting I will see in the movie. For all those people that say Steven's movies have pitiful scripts etc. I think you should focus on the brilliant martials arts skills Steven Seagal displays, when he does have lots of fight sequences. I agree that some recent movies haven't displayed these skills enough. However, with Out For A Kill that seems to have changed a bit. So focus on Steven's fight scenes, and worry about the movie storylines and editing etc less. I will write my review of Out For A Kill next week. By the way, my brother visited Singapore recently and found me an oriental dragon jacket exactly like Steven owns, and was wearing to the Executive Decision Premier, it is cool as, so don't doubt Steven's fashion sense, I think its great. I also purchased a bead bracelet from Steven's website before it went down, and I just love them, wear them everyday. Steven has the best taste in clothes and in jewellery. The fights will be a plenty in Beyond The Sun, when Steven battles The Yakuza, so it is a great time to be a Seagal fan. Also, for those people that think every Seagal movie must be a hit, listen to Steven, as he said in his Leno interview promoting Exit Wounds, not every movie can be a big hit, Hollywood is a very difficult place to churn out regular number one movies. Look at the brilliant movies Steven has provided us over all these years, most have been very successful, which is hard to do. I don't see new action stars today that are doing near as well as Steven has over the years. Steven isn't finished yet. Good to see Steven is also getting fitter, he has been through alot lately.

Nash.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
nashpl,

you are sooooo right, I agree with you! Steven a great artist, and I simply adore his taste in clothes, I wish I had that dragon fabric!
He is not boring in any way, shape or form, he thrills me! You will like the fight scenes in OFAK, he was very good in them, I totally enjoyed them all, but really liked the sword scene...I have been thinking about getting some beads from his yahoo site as well...They are supposed to be hand picked by him, they are very, very cool...I think he has done so very well, and no one has room to be critical of him...He's simply amazing, and talented, and he is in no way average, it doesn't take a fool to see that...
He's a very, very, special man, very special indeed...:)
 

Administrator

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daito-ryu fighter said:
Hello everybody,

Anyone know the date of release of Out for a kill DVD in France.
Thanks for the response.
For information Half Past Dead DVD (Title french: Mission Alcatraz) will be released the 7 November in France.
See You.............................................
You can order it from www.play.com They are based in Jersey and i'm sure they ship to mainland Europe.

The DVD includes English language only though! :(

Craig
 

kokoro

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Well, I finally got to see Out For A Kill today. I enjoyed the film alot. The start appeared to have great potential from the early scenes, but with the constant "typewriter" sound and visual coming across the screen at every location change, it did put a little damper on the excitement.

Great to see Steve in some good action scenes again, but unfortunately the barber shop fight got a bit too much away from reality. The Monkey Kung Fu was all good until he started crawling around the walls, which took the smile from my face. A little disappointed with the close up fight scenes where all you could see were hands moving too fast to make out what they were actually doing.

Steve played the part of Robert Burns well, his acting ability is definately coming to maturity, ready to take on a whole new level movie and fan base. Credit must go to him for making such a believable character that without him, may have been a very sad movie indeed. Perhaps in the future we may see more dialect and intelligence from his characters, creating the perfect martial arts/action movie.

The movie had great potential to be a smash hit, but perhaps budget constraints, weak editing and script spoiled an otherwise entertaining movie.

On the Heart, Mind & Spirit scale??

(Heart= How often pulse sped up; Mind= intelligence of character, & script strengh; Spirit= how much did the overall movie envelope the viewer)

Heart : 6/10
Mind : 5/10
Spirit : 5/10

Overall view of Seagal on the kokoro scale?

7/10

Cheers!!


(This review is independant of any other and all views. It is not intended in any way to be derogatory, inflamatory, regurgatory or plurgatory to any and all viewers, actors, writers, spiters, lovers or fighters. it's just an opinion, so get over it!!) :cool:
 

nashpl

New Member
Out For A Kill Review

Hi All

I watched Out For A Kill on Friday night, and as expected I really liked seeing Steven do more fight scenes. My favourite scene was the sword fight. However the movie itself was pretty average. Steven didn't show the same utter contempt for the villains as he did in such gems as Out for Justice and Exit Wounds etc. Also in lower budget movie such as Out For A Kill, Steven doesn't speak as much, not providing comic remarks before his fights. I look forward to his next two bigger movies which will be great, hopefully continuing to fight more. I give the fight scenes in Out For A Kill 6 out of 10, while I give the movie itself a 4 out of 10. By the way Out For Justice is showing here in Australia on television this Saturday night. I love this movie, especially when Tattoo spits his little teeth on the pool table. Has anyone else managed to get a green bead bracelet off Steven's website, I purchased a brown bead bracelet.

Nash.
 

suziwong

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Staff member
I have green bead bracelet like Steven but I bought from China !! But I know Steven's. It is wonderful. Your bracelet is dark green or light ??
in onenesss
 

chief_ryback

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I've finally watched this film. A couple of nights ago but i was pretty wrecked and i fell asleep. Luckily i watched it again yesterday. It's good to see the martial arts coming back in, but all this flying around rooms and running on walls is ridiculous. And the director needs to stop doing fancy camera shots, you can't see the moves and it looks contrived. still not a bad film and some nice throws by old robert burns.
 

TDWoj

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Staff member
I still haven't seen it... put in another order to B&N, so it'll be at least another couple of weeks before I see it (if this one doesn't get lost as well).

-TD, still waiting, and starting to chew the furniture in frustration
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
Oh, frabjous day! My OFAK DVD arrived today (gosh, that was quick - I only put the new order in on September 30th. Makes up for losing the other one, anyhow!).

Now I just need time to watch it....

-TD, not planning to go to bed early tonight
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Makes me want to watch it tonight, too, I think I will...:D
I just love seeing that man in action! We a saw a little yellow plane outside spraying tonight, and it made me think of the film. Oops, am I giving a spoiler?
I better zip my lip! Be sure you give us your review!
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Watched again, and gotta say, I like that swordwork...
Such mastery, oh my...He really is something else...:)
 

TDWoj

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Staff member
Well, I've seen the film.

(Pause for a moment while TD puts on her reviewer's hat)

Well.

There are so many things wrong with this film, I don't know where to begin. And yet, there are a few things I did like, but because so much of it is just plain wrong, anything that I liked was overshadowed into oblivion by the rest of it.

Let us make no mistake, folks; this is not an action movie. This is an art film; almost film noir. Steven Seagal being in this film is either an accident of circumstance, or an act of desperation. A sock puppet could have taken the role of Robert Burns and not made any appreciable difference to the result (except, of course, we'd miss the five minutes Steven was actually doing his own fighting).

Am I being too harsh? Maybe. I know I was bored to tears within 15 minutes of the start. And yet, there is plenty of eye candy to satisfy most visually oriented people (like me) who like to look as well as to listen. The problem was, there was nothing to listen to.

One of the things I've always enjoyed about Steven's films is that the film is usually about something more than one man's quest to put wrong things right. His earlier films always had the story behind the story, and we eventually find out that story through the characters Steven plays. In Above the Law, Nico takes on not just people who are wrong but a whole organisation that has set itself up as being unanswerable to any authority but its own. In Out For Justice, Gino has to sift through complex relationships both past and present in order to find the man that murdered his best friend. On Deadly Ground, as awful as it was, had at its heart a very serious message for those who actively destroy the environment.

What does Out for a Kill have?

We are given a clue at the beginning of the film, a quote from Sun Tzu's Art of War, which is tells us what we're supposed to look for in the film (insert sound effect - heavy pounding on blockheads who won't get it) - "All warfare is based on the art of deception."

The only deception being practiced in the film is the one being perpetrated on the audience and Steven Seagal's fans.

Let's start with the script. Or rather, the lack of script. There are some so-called writers who should be kept out of reach of any keyboard with QWERTY on it. The dialogue - well, one can't call it dialogue because that would mean two people would actually be talking *to* each other, not *at* the audience - was banal beyond belief, and so riddled with cliches and pseudo quotes that my fingers were itching to pick up my editorial blue pencil and do something about it - too late, now, alas, with the film already made. It's a pretty sad statement about a movie where the best line in the film is "Tattoo this, bitch!" and it occurs in a scene that has practically nothing to do with the story, but is only a nice aside (presumably, so that this line could be said).

What we learn about Robert Burns is given to us in one horking great chunk of exposition (TM) by an outside party about whom we couldn't care less. Worse, though, is the fact that Robert Burns, the protagonist, the so-called "hero" of this piece, is someone we couldn't care less about either. Why? Because Burns, from start to finish, is a complete cipher.

We only know about him from what other characters have found out (strange that the Chinese cartel could find out about his past, but Tommy couldn't). We find nothing about the character of Burns from Burns himself (except that he can spout cliches really, really well). He doesn't care; Steven playing Burns doesn't care; so we don't care, either.

The villains of the piece, the Chinese drug cartel, are just plain comic-book silly. There is no threat there; the ease with which Burns dispatches each member of the cartel gets dull very quickly. The other villains of the piece - the DEA - act more like a Greek chorus than agents of international law enforcement. They are just as silly and just as ineffectual as the Chinese cartel as potential antagonists to Burns.

I imagine that Oblowitz woke up the morning he was to begin shooting OFAK and decided he was going to make an art film; and then his assistant reminded him that because Steven Seagal was in it, it also had to be an action film with Bad Guys. Strangely enough, the bits of the film that fall into the category of "art/film noir" work quite well, even though Oblowitz still needs to work on timing (for example, the shooting scene at the beginning of the film went on at least 30 seconds longer than it needed to, for the effect it was supposed to achieve). I wondered if Oblowitz had watched Blade Runner the night before he began shooting (this isn't necessarily a bad thing, you understand - but if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Blade Runner has been mightily insulted). The short-cut scenes, some truncated abruptly by bad editing, simply didn't work in the film's favour because there were too many of them.

And now I come to Steven's performance. Elsewhere, folks have commented on his "sleepwalking" through the beginning of the movie. It isn't so much "sleepwalking" as it is a complete and total disinterest to the point of being comatose. Some might say Steven's range of emotional display is limited at the best of times, but he has done it, and we know he can do it, so why didn't he do it here? It seemed to me that all he did was show up on the set, run his lines (as limited as they were), and leave. It could be he was aware of how awful the script was and therefore did his bit and was gone before he could embarrass himself any further; but it seemed to me he just didn't care, about any of it.

Come on: digging at an archeological site wearing a leather coat, and a shirt and a tie? Eating dinner in the restaurant with his wife, she barely dressed in a sexy black dress, him again in his leather coat and ready to face a snowstorm - inside the restaurant? Those members of the Chinese cartel meeting around the table when all of them were based in cities around the world? They must each own a Concorde to be able to get around so fast.

It's attention to these kinds of small details that made Steven's earlier movies *feel* like they were real-life. It's the failure to attend to these details in this film that turned it from mediocre to awful.

I have said on other occasions that I was fairly certain that it wasn't Steven's weight as much as it was his being self-conscious about it that was preventing him from doing his own fighting. This film proves it, up to a point. True, in many places we think we're watching him but all we see are hands that could belong to anybody and on more than just a few occasions clearly do belong to his stunt double. But where we do see *him* fighting (I do wish they'd stop the slo-mo, though - part of the fun in watching Steven fight is his speed in real time) confirms he's still got the moves, and he's as much of a m-f bad-a** as ever he was. The monkey-fu guy spoiled that fight scene - the only part that was any good was the beginning, where Steven is sitting down (interesting how he went into his "stance" even with butt firmly planted in chair).

I won't discuss the technical and post-production problems and crummy special effects since others have mentioned it in detail elsewhere. I will say that cutting short the Luminosity Films logo at the very beginning of the film was a clear indication that at best the editing was going to be pretty bad. And it was. Awful.

I don't necessarily object to Steven doing films that are not "Steven Seagal" films. If moving into doing more art type films is the direction he wants to go in, more power to him. Only, please, let us encourage him to get a decent script and a good director who knows what he's doing, and knows how to direct Steven. And don't perpetrate any more films like this piece of rubbish on us. Please.

2/5 (only because I liked the sword fight)

-TD, disappointed that she was right (that the trailer was too good and that OFAK wouldn't live up to it)
 
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