OUT OF REACH review!(Contain Spoilers)

fighter87

New Member
Me Review for OOR

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I just got finished watching Steven Seagals New Movie "Out Of Reach". From all of the reviews I read, some negative and some positive I had good hopes for this movie. Here is the basic Story. Billy Ray Lancing was a covert agent who is now a survivalist. He lives in the woods helping animals. He is sponsering a young girl. They write back and forth all of the time. One day an old friend comes along. They exchange words and Billy returns home. Now maybe 2 mins later, 6 men come and they want him to come with them. Of coarse he dosent. Same day he gets a letter from the orfanage saying that irina will not be able to write anymore. He is a little suspicious as we all would be. Meanwhile, Faisel(Matt) comes to the orfanage selecting 6 or 7 girls to come with him. He picks Irina. Piece by piece Billy realizes what is going on and who is involved. Im not going to tell you the whole story but that is the basics.

The things I liked about OOR was:
1. Budget was better spent!
2. Characters were much more beleiveble.
3. Stevens Character was good through the whole movie.
4. Setting was great! The white buildings were cool to me :D
5. The girls were not quite and calm. They were scared and a little nervous(they showed emotion)
6. Action was good. Some blood which is also a good thing too!
Things I did not like about OOR was:
1. WHY DID THEY DO VOICE DUBBING!?!? So weird :indiffere
2. In the fight scenes they really wasnt any flipping. Just throwing around.
3. Fight scenes for a little short
4. Last fight scene was good when Billy and Faisel were doing hand to hand. But when the sword fight came->> a little slow to me. BOTB was faster.

But all in all, it was a good movie. The story was excellent to me. It made a lot of sense. And Matt Schulze was great in the part! Very big creep. I am glad I bought it, but I just wished that the last scene was a hand to hand fight and not a slow and yes VERY QUICK sword fight. But still a good movie! Keep Making Em.
 

Reservoir Dog

MRKD4DTH
Thanks fighter

Glad someone else liked it. For me, it was his best film in years. I think the voice dubbing is over exaggerated, it is a lot better than the stunt double problem in BOTB. In terms of overall quality "Out of Reach" is his best film in years. "Belly of the Beast" did have more action, but this one felt higher budget, without the voodoo stuff and all. I do agree though, it would have been nice for some hand to hand combat. Only problem is, Schulze is no martial artist, so it wouldnt have lasted too long...
 

Serena

Administrator
Thanks for that great review, fighter87. :) You did a good job, listing your likes and dislikes. I'm pleased to hear that overall you enjoyed the movie. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :)
 

Serena

Administrator
Well said, as usual, Reservoir Dog.

Reservoir Dog said:
Don't go in expecting an oscar winning performance, script, or well executed action sequences.[

I have said this exact same thing many times. I have never watched Steven's movies expecting Oscar-winning anything. :D Just to be entertained for about 90 minutes so I can escape from reality for a bit and slip into some action. And I'm never disappointed. :)

Well, I kinda was with Out for a Kill, but even that has grown on me the more times I've seen it. :D
 

fighter87

New Member
Res Dog I do agree 100% that the budget was much better in OOR. The stunt doubles did make BOTB a little less unenjoyable. but still good though. to bad matt was not as good as steven. it was have been great to see those 2 hand to hand!
 

Clement3000

aka The Phoenix
Thanks a lot for the review fighter. I really enjoyed the movie myself as well, personally I'd rather see Seagal doing his fighting than someone else (Belly of the Beast). I agree with you Res. Dog that this movie is his best since Exit Wounds, now that I have watched it a 2nd time on DVD. I think that if this movie had a couple more fight scenes, and no voice dubbing, it may have been actually better than Exit Wounds. I'm just happy to see that some people actually enjoyed the movie. Thanks,


Clement :)
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
Clement3000 said:
Thanks a lot for the review fighter. I really enjoyed the movie myself as well, personally I'd rather see Seagal doing his fighting than someone else (Belly of the Beast). I agree with you Res. Dog that this movie is his best since Exit Wounds, now that I have watched it a 2nd time on DVD. I think that if this movie had a couple more fight scenes, and no voice dubbing, it may have been actually better than Exit Wounds. I'm just happy to see that some people actually enjoyed the movie. Thanks,


Clement :)

All I will say right now is I liked it more than Belly Of The Beast, Out For A Kill, Half Passed Dead.

I liked the Foreignor better though.

My review will be posted 2mrw.
 

hulkster225

New Member
I don't know why so many people are complaining about parts of OoR that aren't "politically correct". The part with the Turkish people was such a small detail that it really didn't matter. Movies have always used stereotypes to portray different types of people, because it makes them stand out and makes the particular scene a bit more interesting. I just can't believe that some of the people on the board are getting so worked up about such a minor detail in a movie, its not like he actually insulted Turkish people at any point so I don't see where there is a problem.
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
hulkster225 said:
I don't know why so many people are complaining about parts of OoR that aren't "politically correct". The part with the Turkish people was such a small detail that it really didn't matter. Movies have always used stereotypes to portray different types of people, because it makes them stand out and makes the particular scene a bit more interesting. I just can't believe that some of the people on the board are getting so worked up about such a minor detail in a movie, its not like he actually insulted Turkish people at any point so I don't see where there is a problem.


Yup I agree with you. ;)
 

rgray_aikido

New Member
I didn't think it was a good film at all. It's bad enough that he uses a double for his fighting but now he can't even do his own dialogue. Seagal obviously doesn't care about the quality of his films anymore. He shows up, exerts as little of effort as he can and then picks up his paycheck. I'm a huge Seagal fan but i'm not going to kid myself and say this is a good film just because Steven Seagal is in it. Steven needs to know when something is bad that way maybe he will get the message and change his ways. I don't mind if a few lines are dubbed, like in Belly Of The Beast or Out for a Kill, But when over half of his lines are dubbed by what sounded like 3 or 4 different people thats totally pathetic. Watch the few fight sequences that are in the film closely and you will see that the stunt double shows up all through them even though they are short simple aikido fights with no wires or anything fancy. In fact there were scenes where Billy was just walking and you could see it wasn't Seagal but his double. The one good thing about the film was that Seagal was thinner than in his previous films. But all in all a very dreadful film.
* out of *****
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
rgray_aikido said:
I didn't think it was a good film at all. It's bad enough that he uses a double for his fighting but now he can't even do his own dialogue. Seagal obviously doesn't care about the quality of his films anymore. He shows up, exerts as little of effort as he can and then picks up his paycheck. I'm a huge Seagal fan but i'm not going to kid myself and say this is a good film just because Steven Seagal is in it. Steven needs to know when something is bad that way maybe he will get the message and change his ways. I don't mind if a few lines are dubbed, like in Belly Of The Beast or Out for a Kill, But when over half of his lines are dubbed by what sounded like 3 or 4 different people thats totally pathetic. Watch the few fight sequences that are in the film closely and you will see that the stunt double shows up all through them even though they are short simple aikido fights with no wires or anything fancy. In fact there were scenes where Billy was just walking and you could see it wasn't Seagal but his double. The one good thing about the film was that Seagal was thinner than in his previous films. But all in all a very dreadful film.
* out of *****

LOL easy there..

I have to agree I don't enjoy Seagal's current films as the ones he made back in the day, this current films I can not watch more than once I try but it is not where I can watch Marked For Death or Exit Wounds over and over again. I hope Into The Sun or Mercenary or Submerged will change that..
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
hulkster225 said:
I don't know why so many people are complaining about parts of OoR that aren't "politically correct". The part with the Turkish people was such a small detail that it really didn't matter. Movies have always used stereotypes to portray different types of people, because it makes them stand out and makes the particular scene a bit more interesting. I just can't believe that some of the people on the board are getting so worked up about such a minor detail in a movie, its not like he actually insulted Turkish people at any point so I don't see where there is a problem.

It's a problem if you are Turkish and the symbols of your people are used in a manner that is meant to be disrespectful and mocking.

Suzi is Steven's biggest fan, anywhere and of all time, and of course she is hurt that he's in a movie that slights her people. It looks like HE's doing the slighting, even though it was probably the fault of the sub-par production staff and the writer.

Of course, it's not a big deal from your point of view. But it is to our Suzi; so it wouldn't kill you to be sensitive to that, if you can't be sensitive about anything else.
 

hulkster225

New Member
Well I guess she is just a bit oversensitive if she can be offended by a movie, that didn't even intentionally insult Turkish people. Sure there were people wearing Fez's, besides being a stereotype there is nothing terribly offensive about that. The Fez may be very old fashioned but it was a PARTY they were at, for all you know they might have told the people to come dressed like that or something.
 

Reservoir Dog

MRKD4DTH
hulkster225 said:
Well I guess she is just a bit oversensitive if she can be offended by a movie, that didn't even intentionally insult Turkish people. Sure there were people wearing Fez's, besides being a stereotype there is nothing terribly offensive about that. The Fez may be very old fashioned but it was a PARTY they were at, for all you know they might have told the people to come dressed like that or something.

It was actually a restaraunt not a party. It was intended to be comic relief, but it wasn't that funny. I can understand suzi is hurt that Turkey was misrepresented, but the movie was not intended to make a politcial message, and Turkey itself was not potrayed negatively.
 

Reservoir Dog

MRKD4DTH
Question about stunts

Rgray-

Are you sure there were stunt doubles? Normally, it was pretty easy to tell, but not in this case. If there was a stunt double, I guess I missed it, or it was well shot enough that Seagal pulled it off. Normally, like in BOTB, the double is easily spotted, but not in this case. Anyway, I would like to hear your thoughts on each scene and how much fighting Seagal actually did.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
I only noticed stunt doubles about 3 times...
He was doing lots of his own fighting in this one...
Looking good, I was impressed...
I liked the cabin fight scene a lot...
Love the part where he says "Lord have mercy, what a mess..."
I think that's the exact line...
Anyhow, he's just plain cool to me...

I WILL be watching it again this evening, not a moment too soon...:D
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
TD understood what I mean and thank you for this !!

I am not talking about story, I am not talking about bad Turkish guys, I am talking about Turkish Symbols. Turkish Flags are our symbols !!! Nobody can use it like this !!!
Why did they use our Embassy ??? Embassy means of gouvernment!!! Our Embassy is not market of the child-slave !!!! I belive this is directlly attack to Turkey and Turkish people.

I am repeating THERE WAS NO REASON FOR USING TURKISH FLAGS AND TURKISH EMBASSY IN THIS MOVIE !!!!

it is prejudice for Turkey
I am sorry for this and I am sorry for Mr. Seagal !!
It is UNACCEPTABLE !!!
sincerely
suzi

PS: Fighter, I know and I understand what you mean about Big white building !!!! I received your message don't worry I am not stupid !!!
 

jhogan

New Member
suziwong said:
TD understood what I mean and thank you for this !!

I am not talking about story, I am not talking about bad Turkish guys, I am talking about Turkish Symbols. Turkish Flags are our symbols !!! Nobody can use it like this !!!
Why did they use our Embassy ??? Embassy means of gouvernment!!! Our Embassy is not market of the child-slave !!!! I belive this is directlly attack to Turkey and Turkish people.

I am repeating THERE WAS NO REASON FOR USING TURKISH FLAGS AND TURKISH EMBASSY IN THIS MOVIE !!!!

it is prejudice for Turkey
I am sorry for this and I am sorry for Mr. Seagal !!
It is UNACCEPTABLE !!!
sincerely
suzi

PS: Fighter, I know and I understand what you mean about Big white building !!!! I received your message don't worry I am not stupid !!!

Then what countries symbols are filmakers supposed to use ? All other countries except Turkey ? Good god, so many times the symbols of the US has been used badly in films - so what ? It's only a film, and I don't think few people that see this film are going to think that Turkey is into child labor, etc.
 

Serena

Administrator
DVD Review: OUT OF REACH

by David Blackwell

Steven Seagal used to have a great movie career in the US. He seemed to make a comeback with EXIT WOUNDS, but soon he ended up in the direct to video market. Some of his earlier movies were great (HARD TO KILL, MARKED FOR DEATH, UNDER SEIGE 2), but his recent efforts like THE FOREIGNER and OUT FOR A KILL had me wondering if I would ever see a Steven Seagal movie that just wasn't horrible.

OUT OF REACH is an improvement over THE FOREIGNER and OUT FOR A KILL (which had crappy camera work too). It displays some wonderful Polish locations and architecture. There is even a gun fight in a high class brothel. The direction by Po Chih Leong is smooth. The only thing that makes me wonder is that sometimes Steven Seagal doesn't sound like Steven Seagal like Steven Seagal wasn't available to redubb lines, something was wrong with his voice, or Steven is trying to speak differently. The movie does seem a little short as it clocks in at about 86 minutes with a few things left unanswered (resulting in a semi-weak ending).

Steven Seagal plays William Lansing (aka Billy Ray Lansing) who is a former intelligence operative that goes to Poland to find out what happened to the Polish teenage girl (at an orphanage) he has been corresponding with. He stumbles upon that the orphanage is a front for a human trafficking network being run under the cover of the United Allied Nations and various other foundations. Just sit back and don't dwell too much

VIDEO/AUDIO: The movie is presented in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen with English 5.1 Dolby digital. There are no other language and no subtitle tracks. The picture is clear and all the colors are good except sometimes the blacks look a little murky.

EXTRAS: There are preview trailers for HALF PAST DEAD, THE FOREIGNER, OUT FOR A KILL, 3 WAY, and BELLY OF THE BEAST.

FINAL ANALYSIS: OUT OF REACH is a better than the average Steven Seagal movie compared to THE FOREIGNER and OUT FOR A KILL. It is a definite rental for Steven Seagal fans and people who want to see the fantastic Polish locations they used. I am disappointed there are no subtitle or foreign language tracks. OUT OF REACH is a good way to fill 80 minutes on a rainy day.
 
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