OUT OF REACH review!(Contain Spoilers)

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
Dear Jhogan,

For example generally we see the end of the films

"these characters and places......." something like this !! They didn't put this !! What is the meaning of ???
"All characters and places are correct in this film..." !!!

Can you understand ?? May be you can accept this situation I am sorry I can't !!

first Official Site and now this movie !!! OK !!! Not important !!!
I closed this page !!

suzi
 

hulkster225

New Member
looks like your just going to have to go on with your life and accept that Seagal used some of Turkey's symbols in his fictional movie about a fictional human trafficking operation.
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
I asked you to be sensitive. Now I'm telling you: suzi is Steven's number one fan here and she is distressed at this unfortunate turn of events. I would appreciate it if you respected that and not diss her for her distress at the misuse of her country's symbols, fictional or otherwise.
 

KATHYPURDOM

Steven Seagal Fan
I did enjoy watching OOR. The only thing that really upset me was when Steven, or what was suppose to be Steven, walked down the steps towards the end. You can tell that was not even him. The story line was good a Steven does look like he lost a lot of weight.
 

Buscemi

New Member
Out of Reach had only two good things to offer:

The girl played well and also his sidekick.

Seagal is at his worst here. I had a hard time watching this through to the end. I really think Seagal should stop it sooner than later. I'd be surprised if Into the Sun would change my opinion because I thought the last few movies would do that.

But it shows that without Nasso Seagal isn't able to make good movies... I really think that Nasso did alot for Seagal. Too bad it ended like this.
 

katw_03

New Member
Buscemi said:
Out of Reach had only two good things to offer:

The girl played well and also his sidekick.

Seagal is at his worst here. I had a hard time watching this through to the end. I really think Seagal should stop it sooner than later. I'd be surprised if Into the Sun would change my opinion because I thought the last few movies would do that.

But it shows that without Nasso Seagal isn't able to make good movies... I really think that Nasso did alot for Seagal. Too bad it ended like this.


We all know what Nasso "Did" for Seagal :smad:
 

Buscemi

New Member
kat_whit said:
We all know what Nasso "Did" for Seagal :smad:

You mean movies like Out For Justice, Marked For Death, Under Siege and what not? I didn't say that Nasso was a saint, but he certainly knew how to get Steven hooked up with interesting projects.
 

Reservoir Dog

MRKD4DTH
Buscemi said:
You mean movies like Out For Justice, Marked For Death, Under Siege and what not? I didn't say that Nasso was a saint, but he certainly knew how to get Steven hooked up with interesting projects.

Nasso didn't do Under Siege, but he did ODG, which killed his career. Plus, he wasn't Seagal's agent, he didn't "hook" Seagal up with anything, in fact, Nasso owes his career to Seagal, not Vice Versa. Now Mike Ovitz is a different story....
 

ZenLateralus

Disposition Seagal
I'm not really gonna bother to write too much of a review. I can easily tell you that out of 5 where 1 is the lowest rating and 5 is the highest I cannot give this movie more than a 3 at best. If the ratings were out of 10 I don't think I'd give it more than a 5 at best. The only things I liked about this movie was the story, the foreign main (good and bad) actors were good, and the fact that Steven Seagal was in it. Other than that I could name a dozen reasons as to why I don't think this movie was any better than Out for a Kill and The Foreigner. If it was any better it was just because of the story line and the other actors. Here's a review I wrote for another site:

First of all let me remind everyone that I'm a huge fan of Seagal and own almost all of his movies (except for some of the most recent). I used to buy every Seagal movie that came out to the store but now (after seeing The Foreigner) I rent all of them. While I did enjoy this movie more than The Foreigner and Out For A Kill I cannot really say if I liked it better than Ticker. It is probably almost as good of a movie as Belly of the Beast but, if I were you I'd put your money into BOTB. Steven Seagal does much more acting in either of BOTB and Ticker than OOR. One thing that is an issue with me is the voice-overs. There seems to be two different people who do Seagal's voice-overs throughout the movie and that is a bummer. I could see fixing one...maybe two spots in the film but the voice editing was throughout. Even though this is an enjoyable story I find that Seagal's fight scenes (are there really only two martial art fight scenes?) aren't his usual. I was, to say the least, disappointed in the final fight scene. Other than the voice editing which I totally don't enjoy in a movie and the not so well fight scenes (the camera shots play a roll in this) this is a decent movie to rent and watch if you are a fan of Steven Seagal. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you would even be interested in this film. Steven Seagal does have a few more direct to video movies coming out in the next year or so which sound interesting to say the least and there is talk of one going to the theaters which I'm sure I'll enjoy.

Sorry folks. I still consider myself a big Steven Seagal fan but we'll see if his movies get better quality than this. I thought I saw someone say this movie was better than anything else since Exit Wounds. I'm sorry, I must disagree.
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Amos Review

Well-as I read in a new thread that was started today-yes Seagals movies have changed over the years..CALMED down greatly to sum it up.
Out of Reach was enjoyable,but not his old action that we have known. And a lot of voice dubbing & doubles used just for walking by..if there was a good/logical reason for this,that would be one thing,but we are kept in the dark as his movie fans.
Atleast the few fight scenes in this movie weren't in the dark as it was in Ticker :)
Story line has been basically done before,but good ending to a Seagal movie.
 

jhogan

New Member
suziwong said:
Dear Jhogan,

For example generally we see the end of the films

"these characters and places......." something like this !! They didn't put this !! What is the meaning of ???
"All characters and places are correct in this film..." !!!

Can you understand ?? May be you can accept this situation I am sorry I can't !!

first Official Site and now this movie !!! OK !!! Not important !!!
I closed this page !!

suzi

The film actually did say at the end that "All characters are ficticious, etc...".
 

jhogan

New Member
I finally saw this film, and it was terrible at best. The voice dubbing has reached new heights. From first in The Foreigner to every film since. I think most of Seagal's words were not spoken by Seagal himself. Too little fighting - and those that exist were kinda slow; Seagal is back to his slow moving days. And his stunt double did a forward roll. Why didn't Seagal do it, especially since he did it in Belly, I don't know.

And for those who think he lost weight - he actually looks heavier than he did in Belly. His face sometimes looks thinner but that is because of his shorter hair.

He clearly is doing films for money only and cares nothing of the quality or the insulting of his fans.

All I can say is, if he is getting $4,000,000 for these films, where do I sign up ?

I am done with his films.
 

dvix-city

steven seagal fan
out of reach

out of reach
wahts up with his voice
in the film its sounds lake
he is dieing of some thing
dvix-city
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
I agree all the dubbing was heartbreaking, but I just really want to know why it's happening...
And why they had to use so many different voices and not just one...
There were a few that sounded ok, and then there were some that made me laugh...
He's never a dissapointment to this girl, not ever, but see, those voices just are not him...
No one else with ever substitute for him, at least not for me...
I guess that's why it's such a bummer when the use a double or a different voice, they at least have to come closer and be more realistic, and they aren't doing that...
I thought the doubles in Belly and HPD were great, but these other films, no....
We are his fans, and when we don't get him, well, it's just not the same thing...
I did like him in it though, as always, he was exciting and charming, and very caring as well...
I am just really so thankful to see him making these movies, that is all...
I am off to watch some of OOR soon...
And I'll be smiling as ever...
He's always a such joy for me...:)
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
I am not a problem with voice but I don't like double stunt. In some of the fight scenes its OK !! all stars are using duble !! can be acceptable !! But not necessary for the other parts !! example: stunt double is walking in the forrest instead of Steven! Why ?? I didn't like OOR !!!

on the other hand I accept Seagal doesn't make a film for his fans !! I believe It's a big mistake for him because he is loosing fans and Market!!! May be it is not important for you or Mr. Seagal but I changed my mind about him !!
My favorite is still Belly Of The Beast after the Exit Wounds !!
 

ZenLateralus

Disposition Seagal
Well, as an old fan I'm certainly going to continue renting Seagal's future movie's at video stores. I'm just not going to expect much. I don't know why he makes those decisions but Seagal has to try to care more about the final product and maybe put some more time and effort into it even if it is at a loss. Hell, he would make more money on the films and get better contracts if he took a small financial or time loss to work on the present project.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Suzi, I am sad, how can you say this...I will never change my mind about him, because I think it is not all his decisions...He works very hard! I am sure maybe he is smarter than some people controlling these things, maybe he needs to say more...But I am still and always proud of him! What he does cannot be easy....And most of all I love him! I will never abandon him...I will support him no matter what...Always first with me, and never am I dissapointed...These stunt doubles and voices were not good enough for him! Exactly!
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
Lotussan said:
Suzi, I am sad, how can you say this...I will never change my mind about him, because I think it is not all his decisions...He works very hard! I am sure maybe he is smarter than some people controlling these things, maybe he needs to say more...But I am still and always proud of him! What he does cannot be easy....And most of all I love him! I will never abandon him...I will support him no matter what...Always first with me, and never am I dissapointed...These stunt doubles and voices were not good enough for him! Exactly!

Lotus I am sad too. the reasons why I changed my mind are different !!
Please don't mix it with that !! People should respect each other !! How important they are !!

Lotussan said:
He works very hard! I am sure maybe he is smarter than some people controlling these things, maybe he needs to say more......

sorry but I am not with you if he was smart he should have controlled it !!! Steven Seagal is a wise man and he is also producer in many of his films!!!
of course he knows what he does !!
Too many fans are here they are thinking he is not making a movies for his fans. According too many people there is something wrong with it!! Sorry but it is not my personal opinion. so he is working very hard can you explain for whom ???

peace
suzi
 

Hallarian

New Member
I liked "Out of Reach" very much!!!!

I liked most of the movie. I also liked the sword play which shows an unusual dual between one swordsman fighting Japanese style and the other fighting the classical European style. In college I fenced (foils) of course because woman have a hard time with sabers (not enough deltoid muscle they told me). I really enjoyed the duel and the other fighting was good enough for me but I'm a poor judge. I also thought Steven looked nice in a suit and tie. I thought the kids were great too. I was very touched watching him rescue the little hawk.
 
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