Review : Attack Force

marky96

Active Member
Oh I can't wait to see this film judging by the reviews of others...

And ORANGATUANG, I don't think that people are unecessarily bringing up Seagal's weight. Here it is being discussed in the context of his latest film. Seagal is an action star and the fact that he is too overweight to be convincing as such should be of deep concern to anyone who follows his career. I think that everyone here follows his career regardless because we are all fans and that is the very reason why we are here after all. I also think that a TRUE fan is somone who is able to offer constructive criticism and does not just follow Seagal blindly and without any regard to the quality of the films he makes. In fact I think those people who do that actually harm Seagal's career by giving him a false sense of what the majority of us think of him.
 

ZenMan

Guess Whos Back !!!!
Hi All....................

Long Time Eh ?

watched "Attack Force" Last night and was thoroughly dissapointed ! Was really impressed with Shadowman and then this is Seagals next film ....What a let down , Voice Dubbing really spoiled it for me its pretty much the whole way through the film , Back to using stunt doubles again which in a sense is fair enough as their is no of us getting any younger , but its so blatant again !

Wont say too much about the film as i think it is fair to let people make up their own minds and judge the film , but all i will say is hugely dissapointing and would put this on a par with Submerged,Out For A Kill ,Out Of Reach & Mercenary For Justice..............

***ZenMan***
 

KROM

Active Member
Yeaaachhh....

I've seen this movie by jumping chapter by chapter to the end. Another mess, another insult to all his fans, a pure sample of BAD CINEMA!

SHAME ON YOU STEVEN SEAGAL!

All his last 5-6 movies are a sample that not only his body have a problema, but his mind is poisoned !
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
Fair enough marky..i cant be bothered debating i have just had an gut full thats all..look at the people he works with then you know then why his mind has been poisoned...have an good weekend...
 

latinojazz

Well-Known Member
I must to rectify my review, the movies isn´t as bad as I said yesterday:

The Bad Things:

Everytime I sit to seee the movie fall asleep at the 35-40minute.It´s the ideal flic to leave out the sleeping pills...

A lot of dubbing, I think in the post-production has changed the lines, I can´t explain why so much actors, not only Steven, are dubbed.

The plot is weird, and is very clear that is because in the first time it was an Alien movie convert into an action-packed flic.

I´m fed up of the romanian locations, actors, etc...Many of them are the same of Shadow Man and Black Dawn.

The Good Things:

The Sci-fi mood...cool
Is in the air all the movie, in the Seagal clothes, the weapons, the spirit, in the super strenght and super-speed of the girls.Good

The Seagal look and attitude.He is fat, but wears in black and looks good.

A lot of blood.I like the gore touch

The partner of Steven looks similar than the Vinnie Jones one in Submerged.In fact,this movie is similar in many ways to Submerged.The producer could merge both to make one better.

The fights are very short and not Aikido focus as in Shadow Man, but there are enough for me.And the Steven macho attitude is good.I like the way he beats the police guys that are following him and his pal.

The movie is enjoyable.The last 30 minutes of Attack Force are full of blood, the fights are short but good enough and looks as a Sci-Fi or Blade-Underworld movie.

I like a lot the Steven knives in his arms, and the final fight with the¨vampire¨(drugged)girl is good, and well combine with the pal fight against two.The classic hand to hand Seagal fight he does since The Glimmer Man, as in Half Past Dead and Into The Sun.

A cool scene is whe Steven drive in the brain/head of the bad guy his arm-knife, a lot of blood, and the bad-as weakness Seagal character.

I´ll try watch the movie again tomorrow in the morning to try to not fall asleep.

With a lot of more money and time the movie could be a good Sci-fi movie, with a couple of spaceships, special effects, you know...

The problem of the movie, the weird thing is that is an Sci-Fi movie turned into¨I don´t know what¨DTV Seagal flic because the typical¨poltergeist¨Steven Seagal direct-to-video film circumnstances.A classic Seagal problem in his latest DTV flics.

But I have enjoy, and I´m excited to see Steven again with his¨adamantiun¨arm knives fighting against the vampire girls.

Because for me there are no drugs, no nude clubs...I´ve re-invent the movie in my mind.For me are vampire-aliens with super strenght and super-speed fighting against a simple human: Marshall Lawson, Steven Seagal.

Love
 

marky96

Active Member
ORANGATUANG said:
Fair enough marky..i cant be bothered debating i have just had an gut full thats all..look at the people he works with then you know then why his mind has been poisoned...have an good weekend...

I agree that a lot of the way Seagal's career has gone is down to the people he works with. Nearly all of them are out to make a quick buck and don't really care about Seagal or the audience. However I also think that something has fundementally changed with Seagal himself. Basically he is just not interested in making films anymore. Since Exit Wounds (2001) he has making films not because he wants to but because he has to in order to fund his lifestyle, his charity work, his family and his music career. Ok his interest has been captured briefly for Belly of the Beast (2003) and Into the Sun (2005) but generally this has not been the case. These low budget on the quick films started in 2003 with The Foreigner. That was nearly 4 years ago, so I think it is pretty safe to say that they are the norm now and are here to stay. As a Seagal fan this puts me in a difficult position. Do I as a fan keep funding his way of life so that he can do other things like his music tours etc. Or do I feel cheated in a way. We as Seagal fans provide him with one of the most loyal fan bases of any movie star. We supported him through the highs and now through the lows. Do we not deserve something in return, like him actually caring about the films he is in?

I am sorry to hear that you have had a gut full ORANGATUANG. Maybe if things here are getting too much for you, then you should take a break for a while?

Have a good weekend too ;)
 

masterd48

Member
The older he is becoming, the more and more he is getting into his Buddhism and spiritual lifestyle-he probably doesnt care too much for violent action movies. When he was younger he was obviously more of a go getter, wanted to be famous and a movie star-his priorities have changed. Because i refuse to beleive that in the last five years someone hasnt told him just how awful his movies have become.
Music, religion and charities occupy his time and with the whirlwind movies he's making he hasnt really had any time to "miss" making movies and build up enthusiasm for them
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
As of monday iam going away for an week or so depends how long my sister needs my help to shift and iam going to take my cd's of his music with me as my sister likes the guy too..and she hasnt heard his music so its going to be interesting to say the least...
 

Kotegashi

Master Of Disaster
Staff member
Just finished editing my version of the trailer.

Now it's up to Craig to upload it in the members only section.

Peace
 

bwana-beast

Active Member
Doesn't Know the Story

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't believe this reviewer has any inkling of what when on between final shooting and final editing of ATTACK FORCE. I doubt that much of Joe Halpin's original script remains on screen, and the extensive dubbing I've read about to try and change the story line probably just makes things more confusing. The dvd comes out today, so I haven't had a chance to view it yet.
 

KROM

Active Member
marky96 said:
I agree that a lot of the way Seagal's career has gone is down to the people he works with. Nearly all of them are out to make a quick buck and don't really care about Seagal or the audience. However I also think that something has fundementally changed with Seagal himself. Basically he is just not interested in making films anymore. Since Exit Wounds (2001) he has making films not because he wants to but because he has to in order to fund his lifestyle, his charity work, his family and his music career. Ok his interest has been captured briefly for Belly of the Beast (2003) and Into the Sun (2005) but generally this has not been the case. These low budget on the quick films started in 2003 with The Foreigner. That was nearly 4 years ago, so I think it is pretty safe to say that they are the norm now and are here to stay. As a Seagal fan this puts me in a difficult position. Do I as a fan keep funding his way of life so that he can do other things like his music tours etc. Or do I feel cheated in a way. We as Seagal fans provide him with one of the most loyal fan bases of any movie star. We supported him through the highs and now through the lows. Do we not deserve something in return, like him actually caring about the films he is in?
I am sorry to hear that you have had a gut full ORANGATUANG. Maybe if things here are getting too much for you, then you should take a break for a while?
Have a good weekend too ;)

AGREE. AS I SAID BEFORE: HE SHOULD STOP MAKING MOVIES FOR A WHILE!
 

The Film Fiend

New Member
bwana-beast said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't believe this reviewer has any inkling of what when on between final shooting and final editing of ATTACK FORCE. I doubt that much of Joe Halpin's original script remains on screen, and the extensive dubbing I've read about to try and change the story line probably just makes things more confusing. The dvd comes out today, so I haven't had a chance to view it yet.

Hello everyone. I'm the guy who wrote The Film Fiend review. Someone who claimed they discovered my review via this site sent me a rather unpleasant e-mail, so I decided to see what was shaking over here.

Now, I'm well aware of what SUPPOSEDLY went down in post-production, but that doesn't mean I have to believe it. Sometimes in the entertainment biz, people like to blame others for their miscalculations, their major league screw-ups. Doesn't mean it's true.

Besides, even if the director and everyone lost control of the project after filming wrapped, that wouldn't explain all of the elements that have appeared in PREVIOUS Seagal efforts. Bad scripting, bad dubbing, bad direction, bad editing -- all of these traits are present in Mercenary for Justice, Shadow Man, and a few other select titles. So you can pass the buck and find a scapegoat if you want, but I do believe that Seagal and the people he chooses to surround himself with are the root of the problem. This isn't some isolated event. This is happening two or three times a year.

So blame others if you want, but at the end of the day, SEAGAL and his merry band of B-movie bosses are the ones who have to deal with the backlash, since he is the guy who consistently stars in sub-par STV movies that are beneath his talent. The e-mail I received said I'm just not a fan, but that's not true. I adore Steven's oddball brand of action insanity -- I even own the guy's CDs -- but it frustrates me to see him wallow in trash like this. Here's hoping that Prince of Pistols will turn things around. If that ends up a mess, he has only himself to blame.

BTW -- Nice forums. And sorry if I stepped on toes.

T. Rigney, The Film Fiend
 

supertom

Disgruntled fan!
The Film Fiend said:
Hello everyone. I'm the guy who wrote The Film Fiend review. Someone who claimed they discovered my review via this site sent me a rather unpleasant e-mail, so I decided to see what was shaking over here.

Now, I'm well aware of what SUPPOSEDLY went down in post-production, but that doesn't mean I have to believe it. Sometimes in the entertainment biz, people like to blame others for their miscalculations, their major league screw-ups. Doesn't mean it's true.

Besides, even if the director and everyone lost control of the project after filming wrapped, that wouldn't explain all of the elements that have appeared in PREVIOUS Seagal efforts. Bad scripting, bad dubbing, bad direction, bad editing -- all of these traits are present in Mercenary for Justice, Shadow Man, and a few other select titles. So you can pass the buck and find a scapegoat if you want, but I do believe that Seagal and the people he chooses to surround himself with are the root of the problem. This isn't some isolated event. This is happening two or three times a year.

So blame others if you want, but at the end of the day, SEAGAL and his merry band of B-movie bosses are the ones who have to deal with the backlash, since he is the guy who consistently stars in sub-par STV movies that are beneath his talent. The e-mail I received said I'm just not a fan, but that's not true. I adore Steven's oddball brand of action insanity -- I even own the guy's CDs -- but it frustrates me to see him wallow in trash like this. Here's hoping that Prince of Pistols will turn things around. If that ends up a mess, he has only himself to blame.

BTW -- Nice forums. And sorry if I stepped on toes.

T. Rigney, The Film Fiend

Well said dude, and welcome aboard. The fiend's reviews are always good. Although I have to argue on his view of Joe Halpin, as he's a good guy. He always answers the fans e-mails, and has been trying to get his credit for his last couple of Seagal films struck off, as the final scripts were total re-writes of what he initially wrote. Attack Force is NOT a Joe Halpin screenplay. I can't say he's Charlie Kaufman or anything, but he's better than Attack Force suggests.
 

masterd48

Member
I don't like Film Fiend because of the personal swipes he makes at people he doesnt like in movies, there's no need for that in an allegedly objective review-his reviews are NEVER objective
 
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