Should Seagal return with Julius Nasso?
- Thread starter foucellas
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Steven is very honorable person !!!
take-sensei
Die Hard Seagal fan!
It's true what Suzi says.
Steven must make movies with people who he can trust and which he likes!!!
greets take-sensei
Steven must make movies with people who he can trust and which he likes!!!
greets take-sensei
mindisamirror
Member
I have to agree with pretty much everybody else here. Teaming up with Nasso again would not be a good idea. I can't imagine that the magical missing element in Seagal's career is a corrupt mob-connected partner.
Bobby_Lupo
New Member
Seagal severed ties with Nu Image after he completed Mercenary for Justice. As for Nasso, well, I seriously doubt that he nor Seagal would ever work together again considering the whole spectacle they have caused over the years. Seagal seems to be keeping busy with writer Joe Halpin and producer Andrew Stevens in the meantime.
ORANGATUANG
Wildfire
Nasso who?...Steven is far to intelligent to bother with that rat again...
KimonoSoul
Wacky on the Junk
ORANGATUANG said:
My sentiments exactly.....
latinojazz
Well-Known Member
foucellas said:
Are you insane, pal???
Would return the victims of Charles Manson to be with him??
Nasso is a criminal, man
ORANGATUANG
Wildfire
With any luck Nasso is getting what he deserves...maybe he is some ones b***h....
marky96
Active Member
I think that Seagal should work with Nasso again. It was Nasso who built Seagal's career up and look what has happened since they stopped working together. With only a few exceptions Seagal's films have all been trash. His career is in the gutter and working with Halpin or Andrew Stevens is just not producing the goods. The sooner Seagal works with Nasso again, the better.
mindisamirror
Member
I agree that it would be nice to see another Out For Justice, but I think you're giving Nasso too much credit. After all, he was a producer, not a writer or a director. His job was on the business end and not the creative end.marky96 said:
Even if you do give him some of the credit for the quality of films like Marked For Death, then you have to give him his share of the blame for The Patriot. We don't want another The Patriot. Well, I guess some people do, but I don't.
And then there are those ties to organized crime and the charges of extortion. That sort of thing doesn't really help, especially in a business where reputation is so important.
marky96
Active Member
I would agree with you there mclane. It is true that Nasso was only a producer but I am pretty sure his influence extended further than that. Also look at the producers Seagal works with now. And look at the quality of his films now. The link is plain for anyone to see but only if they want to see it.
mindisamirror
Member
I think it's also important to take a look at the projects that Nasso's produced in the last few years. In three years, all he's managed to come up with is a nondescript U-boat movie that nobody's ever heard of and an apparently unfinished project from the director of Food of the Gods II. I mean, if Seagal's career has been going downhill lately, then Nasso's career has disappeared completely.marky96 said:
I can understand wanting Seagal to return to his glory days, but bringing back Nasso isn't going to do the trick. It would be like trying to use a brick as a floatation device. It would be better for Seagal to attach himself to the new breed of action movie producers, Philippe Martinez or maybe even Luc Besson.
Or even somebody like Mataichiro Yamamoto. After all, they love Seagal in Japan, and the Japanese producers would be thrilled to have something that they could sell to the American market.
But Nasso? No, I really don't think that's the fix we're hoping for.
marky96
Active Member
I agree that Nasso is not the only answer and yes, his career too has floundered, perhaps an indication that getting back together would be positive for both of them.
Seagal does need to look to changing who he is working with. Though I am in the minority, I think that the ending of the relationship with Nu-Image was a bad thing. Though for many years they were known to be peddlers of (very) low budget horror and action films they have moved on. 16 Blocks the latest Bruce Willis action film was produced by them, and upcoming projects include The Contract starring Morgan Freeman, John Cusack and Corey Johnson, The Wicker Man , a remake starring Nicholas Cage, Brian de Palma's The Black Dahlia (all 2006) and 88 Minutes (2007) starring Al Pacino. Seagal could have been at the forefront of Nu-Image's push into the mainstream but due to his behavior they have ceased working with him.
Seagal should look to the example of Van Damme who is firmly in control of his career. His last few films have been positive steps forward and Seagal should look to work with producers like Phillipe Martinez and directors like Ringo Lam. If Van Damme can do it then so can Seagal. He should also look to, as you say, making more films in Asia. Not only have they been relatively successful (Belly of the Beast (2003) and Into the Sun (2005), but they actually engage Seagal whose interest increases appreciably. That is a key component for him in getting his career back on track.
Seagal should also perhaps look to work with some of the director's he has worked with before. Although Bruce Malmuth died in 2005, all the other director's are still alive and nearly all are still directing. Indeed even excluding Andrew Davis, who has said he would never work with Seagal again, some have had further success. For example Dwight H Little has also directed Wesley Snipes in Murder at 1600 (1997) and now directs episodes of 24 (2001). Félix Enríquez Alcalá has directed episodes of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation(2000), ER (1994), and The Shield (2002). Andrzej Bartkowiak has directed Jet Li in Cradle 2 the Grave (2003) and The Rock in Doom (2005). Albert Pyun has gone on to direct More Mercy (2003), Max Havoc: Curse of the Dragon (2004), and Infection (2005).
If he continues to work with people like Andrew Stevens I think his career will only sink further into DTV hell. It is a shame that Cannon films are not around anymore as they would surely have boosted Seagal's career.
Seagal does need to look to changing who he is working with. Though I am in the minority, I think that the ending of the relationship with Nu-Image was a bad thing. Though for many years they were known to be peddlers of (very) low budget horror and action films they have moved on. 16 Blocks the latest Bruce Willis action film was produced by them, and upcoming projects include The Contract starring Morgan Freeman, John Cusack and Corey Johnson, The Wicker Man , a remake starring Nicholas Cage, Brian de Palma's The Black Dahlia (all 2006) and 88 Minutes (2007) starring Al Pacino. Seagal could have been at the forefront of Nu-Image's push into the mainstream but due to his behavior they have ceased working with him.
Seagal should look to the example of Van Damme who is firmly in control of his career. His last few films have been positive steps forward and Seagal should look to work with producers like Phillipe Martinez and directors like Ringo Lam. If Van Damme can do it then so can Seagal. He should also look to, as you say, making more films in Asia. Not only have they been relatively successful (Belly of the Beast (2003) and Into the Sun (2005), but they actually engage Seagal whose interest increases appreciably. That is a key component for him in getting his career back on track.
Seagal should also perhaps look to work with some of the director's he has worked with before. Although Bruce Malmuth died in 2005, all the other director's are still alive and nearly all are still directing. Indeed even excluding Andrew Davis, who has said he would never work with Seagal again, some have had further success. For example Dwight H Little has also directed Wesley Snipes in Murder at 1600 (1997) and now directs episodes of 24 (2001). Félix Enríquez Alcalá has directed episodes of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation(2000), ER (1994), and The Shield (2002). Andrzej Bartkowiak has directed Jet Li in Cradle 2 the Grave (2003) and The Rock in Doom (2005). Albert Pyun has gone on to direct More Mercy (2003), Max Havoc: Curse of the Dragon (2004), and Infection (2005).
If he continues to work with people like Andrew Stevens I think his career will only sink further into DTV hell. It is a shame that Cannon films are not around anymore as they would surely have boosted Seagal's career.
latinojazz
Well-Known Member
If Cannon Films exists would be only DTV nowadays.
Hey man, the 80's passed...
Hey man, the 80's passed...
marky96
Active Member
I agree that they would be DTV today, but at least they would be decent DTV outings rather than what Seagal is making now. One of the criticisms I have is that his more recent efforts lack the brutality and violence of his earlier outings. Making films with Cannon would have rectified that. I know it is not to be but one can't help but dream.