Submerged - review

suziwong

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Staff member
Thank you very much MsSmith for this good review ....:)

where is my submerged..... ??????? : :p
cuz I can't wait.. :D
 

hofmae

New Member
Ok heres my review:

*****
INTRO
*****

First: This movie isn't one of the best Steven Seagal Movies, but it's A LOT BETTER than all movies since Exit Wounds. Its better than Out of Reach, Out for a Kill and better than Into the Sun too! I think there can be a lot of better movies, but i think not only for Steven Seagal Fans this movie is very good watchable.

******
STORY
******
The story is very interesting, its about some brainwashed soldiers... i think you know the story. For me its not only an action movie, its more a thriller, because there is much suspense and much "thriller" style scenes. There is much tempo too. There are only some long scenes in the middle, but if you see the whole movie there is a lot of tempo and suspense.

*****
LOOK
*****

The look is very great, and i watched a lot of really good a-action movies, but i can't find any "bad cgi" in this one. All CGI Scenes and all Action Scenes are done very well. And no scene looked cheap! The explosions are very well for a B-Movie and there are very fast cut scenes, very much slow/fast-motion effects and a very modern stylish movie from the beginning to the end. The colors looked extremely powerfull, and not like in most b-movies.

I can't find any cheap looking scenes, all is done very well.

*****
HUMOR
*****

There isn't a lot humor, but there are some funny scenes and 2-3 funny lines from Steven Seagal. Its ok!

*****
ACTION
*****

First the bad news: There aren't a lot fighting Scenes with Steven Seagal. Only the very short fight with Gary Daniels and a fight at the the ending. But thats the only bad news. We have here a lot of action (Not always involving steven Seagal) but we see him shooting and driving and in 2 short fights. There are a lot of explosions, a car chase and a damaged helicopter. All is done very well for a b-movie and there is a big opera scene at the ending with a lot of actors and there is a scene with a lot of soldiers too, and a submarine that explodes very well. i mean there is a lot of action, and all is done very well. The aciton is very hard too, there is a lot of blood, and we see some very violent scenes.

Like i said the only thing thats not nice is the fact that there aren't much fight scenes with Steven

*****
MUSIC
*****

The music sounds really professional, and overall i can say this is a really nice score, and its one of the better scores for a b-movie. Very nice!

*****
OVERALL
*****

Overall this is really the best movie since exit wounds, a lot of really good action, and very well done. Exploding submarines, crashing helicopter, car chases, shootouts and 2 short fights, all is there.

The only bad thing is, that i wanted more fighting scenes with Steven, but you can have everything, overall it is a really good movie, with a interesting story, and a lot of suspense.

Thumbs up for Steven. Im now really looking forward for the next action movies with Steven and i hope there is a new trailer soon

See you
André
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
hofmae said:
Ok heres my review:

*****
INTRO
*****

First: This movie isn't one of the best Steven Seagal Movies, but it's A LOT BETTER than all movies since Exit Wounds. Its better than Out of Reach, Out for a Kill and better than Into the Sun too! I think there can be a lot of better movies, but i think not only for Steven Seagal Fans this movie is very good watchable.

******
STORY
******
The story is very interesting, its about some brainwashed soldiers... i think you know the story. For me its not only an action movie, its more a thriller, because there is much suspense and much "thriller" style scenes. There is much tempo too. There are only some long scenes in the middle, but if you see the whole movie there is a lot of tempo and suspense.

*****
LOOK
*****

The look is very great, and i watched a lot of really good a-action movies, but i can't find any "bad cgi" in this one. All CGI Scenes and all Action Scenes are done very well. And no scene looked cheap! The explosions are very well for a B-Movie and there are very fast cut scenes, very much slow/fast-motion effects and a very modern stylish movie from the beginning to the end. The colors looked extremely powerfull, and not like in most b-movies.

I can't find any cheap looking scenes, all is done very well.

*****
HUMOR
*****

There isn't a lot humor, but there are some funny scenes and 2-3 funny lines from Steven Seagal. Its ok!

*****
ACTION
*****

First the bad news: There aren't a lot fighting Scenes with Steven Seagal. Only the very short fight with Gary Daniels and a fight at the the ending. But thats the only bad news. We have here a lot of action (Not always involving steven Seagal) but we see him shooting and driving and in 2 short fights. There are a lot of explosions, a car chase and a damaged helicopter. All is done very well for a b-movie and there is a big opera scene at the ending with a lot of actors and there is a scene with a lot of soldiers too, and a submarine that explodes very well. i mean there is a lot of action, and all is done very well. The aciton is very hard too, there is a lot of blood, and we see some very violent scenes.

Like i said the only thing thats not nice is the fact that there aren't much fight scenes with Steven

*****
MUSIC
*****

The music sounds really professional, and overall i can say this is a really nice score, and its one of the better scores for a b-movie. Very nice!

*****
OVERALL
*****

Overall this is really the best movie since exit wounds, a lot of really good action, and very well done. Exploding submarines, crashing helicopter, car chases, shootouts and 2 short fights, all is there.

The only bad thing is, that i wanted more fighting scenes with Steven, but you can have everything, overall it is a really good movie, with a interesting story, and a lot of suspense.

Thumbs up for Steven. Im now really looking forward for the next action movies with Steven and i hope there is a new trailer soon

See you
André


Thanks for posting!
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
msmith said:
Just thought i'd pass on this review i've stumbled upon from the UK website Total DVD which also has a monthly magazine. If you check out some of the other Seagal reviews you can see that they've not always appreciated some of the films he has been involved in but as for Submerged they see it as a return to form as follows:-

The Movie 8

The American Ambassador has been murdered in South America. The CIA are justifiably concerned, they believe the killing to be the handy-work of the twisted Dr.Lehder (Nick Brimble). In order for them to track down Lehder and some army boys he has captured, they have to turn to one man - you guessed it…..the mighty Steven Seagal.

Playing one of his patented ex-CIA/Military guys, Seagal plays Cody who has been in prison as a scapegoat for the American government, he is offered a full pardon if he can locate Lehder and retrieve the data for his sick brainwashing experiments. Seagal puts together his old team of varied ex-soldiers (who are also in prison) for one last mission to finish off Lehder. Among his team are British veteran actor, PH (The Long Good Friday) Moriaty, Vinnie (Snatch) Jones and a beautiful operative, Damita played by the gorgeous Alison (Sky’s Dream Team) King. Tracking down Lehder’s lair, they miss him literally by minutes and rescue the soldiers. They then make their escape on an old submarine, but as the soldiers have been brainwashed it is only a matter of time before they turn on their rescuers.
Director, Anthony (Hellraiser 3, Waxwork) Hickox has crafted a great action movie packed with non-stop shooting and fighting. There is plenty of violence especially from a certain Mr Jones playing his usual cockney thug role. Although you have seen it all before, no one swears like our Vinnie and he brings some light relief to the proceedings. Seagal is his usual quiet self, kicking ass when he has to and generally being himself (a good thing always in my book). Alison King however is a somewhat of a revelation. Known for her role in football drama, Dream Team and starring in soap adverts, she shows a different side to her as operative, Damita. She looks good and carries off some action pretty well. Someone give this lady another action film and see what she can do!!

This is the best film from Seagal in a long time. His direct to DVD efforts have somewhat been strained especially The Foreigner (which was awful) if the budget was a bit bigger and it had a few more ‘names’ I could see no reason why this couldn’t get a cinema release. What you do have is one of the best B action films in a long time!! Welcome back Steven Seagal you’re making great films again.

Verdict 8

Submerged is Seagal’s best film since Under Siege 2. Into the Sun (his previous film) was a step in the right direction. The film is packed with action from beginning to end. Although it’s not going to win awards for it’s acting, it has a reasonable script, very good production values and most of all lots of gratuitous violence from Seagal and Vinnie Jones. Certainly one for the action film collection.

For more information please see http://www.totaldvd.net/cgi-bin/dvdreviews.php?reviewid=11786

Having read this review I'm now kinda looking forward to this film a little more now so we'll see how it goes.

Peace

Martin


Thanks for the review, I don't know if it will be his best movie since Under Siege 2 because The Glimmer Man, Fire Down Below, and Exit Wounds were pretty good Seagal films..
 

hofmae

New Member
No i think Glimmer Man, Fire Down Below and Exit Wounds are better. Because they all had more fighting scenes. But since exit wounds there isn't a movie from him that is quite good than that one. And all screamed about "Voice dubbin".... Oh my god: There is about 2 Minutes voice dubbing i heard, in some fast scenes and in some scenes where the camera was not near the actors, the rest is our real steven with his real voice :)
 

Administrator

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Staff member
Well last night i watched the final DVD version of Submerged.

Movie: The plot in the movie is pretty straight forward, not complicated like 'The Foreigner'. The movie has lots of action, unfortunately there are only a few martial arts sequences with Steven Seagal. One with Gary Daniels and the other with a character that appeared out of a lift. It was the first time he was seen. All the action in the movie is pretty well done. :) For your information, i watched the first 10 minutes of a preview copy and after seeing it i thought the CGI was going to be aweful. Especially after seeing the drone aircraft - which in my opinion would not go amiss in Thunderbirds. Luckily after watching the movie, this seemed to be the worst bit of CGI in the whole movie. Overall the rest of the explosions, stunt sequences, etc are well done. There are many of them too.

The stunt double was a bit harder to see in this movie compared with the others, but i have managed to spot him in a few places. Even in some scenes where there are not stunts, like walking up a hill. :D

The supporting cast are pretty decent too. I thought Vinnie Jones was good in his role. I would like to see some more movies with him and Steven Seagal.

There's even some humour in the movie, and also homage to 'On Deadly Ground' when Vinnie Jones' character gives Steven Seagal a satellite phone and tells him 'incase you need to reach out and reach somebody'.

Sound: A nice rocking soundtrack is present. Unfortunately once again a lot of Steven Seagal's lines are dubbed. This in my opinion reduces the quality of the movie considerably. :( The dubbing is quite strange, the person doesn't even sound like Steven Seagal.

Picture quality: As you will see from the captures i have added in this post and the gallery the quality of picture is excellent. Certainly one of Steven Seagal's clearest pictures.

Overall: Apart from the dreadful dubbing, the movie is pretty decent. It is still no-where near as good as Steven Seagal's earliest movies, but it is still better than the likes of 'The Foreigner' and 'Out For A Kill'. For half the budget of 'Into The Sun' a reasonable movie has been made.

Rating: 7/10
 

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suziwong

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Staff member
Craig Robertson said:
Well last night i watched the final DVD version of Submerged.

Movie: The plot in the movie is pretty straight forward, not complicated like 'The Foreigner'. The movie has lots of action, unfortunately there are only a few martial arts sequences with Steven Seagal. One with Gary Daniels and the other with a character that appeared out of a lift. It was the first time he was seen. All the action in the movie is pretty well done. :) For your information, i watched the first 10 minutes of a preview copy and after seeing it i thought the CGI was going to be aweful. Especially after seeing the drone aircraft - which in my opinion would not go amiss in Thunderbirds. Luckily after watching the movie, this seemed to be the worst bit of CGI in the whole movie. Overall the rest of the explosions, stunt sequences, etc are well done. There are many of them too.

The stunt double was a bit harder to see in this movie compared with the others, but i have managed to spot him in a few places. Even in some scenes where there are not stunts, like walking up a hill. :D

The supporting cast are pretty decent too. I thought Vinnie Jones was good in his role. I would like to see some more movies with him and Steven Seagal.

There's even some humour in the movie, and also homage to 'On Deadly Ground' when Vinnie Jones' character gives Steven Seagal a satellite phone and tells him 'incase you need to reach out and reach somebody'.

Sound: A nice rocking soundtrack is present. Unfortunately once again a lot of Steven Seagal's lines are dubbed. This in my opinion reduces the quality of the movie considerably. :( The dubbing is quite strange, the person doesn't even sound like Steven Seagal.

Picture quality: As you will see from the captures i have added in this post and the gallery the quality of picture is excellent. Certainly one of Steven Seagal's clearest pictures.

Overall: Apart from the dreadful dubbing, the movie is pretty decent. It is still no-where near as good as Steven Seagal's earliest movies, but it is still better than the likes of 'The Foreigner' and 'Out For A Kill'. For half the budget of 'Into The Sun' a reasonable movie has been made.

Rating: 7/10

Oww Thank you for the review Craig Sounds good.. I can noy wait.. Where is my submerged ??? Also thank you very much for the greatttttttttttttt photos.. He is very nice ..

sibcerely

suzi
 

Assassin187

New Member
How much of his lines are dubbed in the movie? If it's only a few lines I will probably buy it but if its like half his lines I will most likely only rent it.
 

Kcs

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Greetings,
Csaba
 

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Littledragon

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Kcs said:
Yet again I've made some photo correction: changing the aspect ratio to 16:9, correcting some color balance error of the capture and removing some noise.

Greetings,
Csaba


Whatever that means those pics look really good quality, thanks!! :)
 

hofmae

New Member
I wrote that with the 2 minutes... Craig said there is much more...

I cannot say it 100% sure, because most Steven Seagal Movies i see in German. But i really can say it only in 2-3 scenes. I saw it on the scene were the camera is far away and the soldiers walking up the hill, and in some other scenes very short (1 or 2 words...) but i didn't hear more voice dubbing... But im not 100% sure... Although the movie is good. Watch it.
 

Mason

Well-Known Member
hofmae said:
ACTION
*****

First the bad news: There aren't a lot fighting Scenes with Steven Seagal. Only the very short fight with Gary Daniels and a fight at the the ending. But thats the only bad news.

Like i said the only thing thats not nice is the fact that there aren't much fight scenes with Steven..

The *only* bad news....thats about as bad as it can get. 2 fights in total in the whole film.... since the fightscenes are the most importent thing in a Seagal film Submerged cant possibly be better than Into The Sun. Only 2 fights what are they thinking. :rolleyes: Theres absolutley no excuse for the lack of fightscenes in the film :rolleyes: I actualy dont give a damn about explosions & gunfight, fightscenes is what made me watch Seagal's movies in the first place, so I guess this will just be another film just for the sake of my collection. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

hofmae

New Member
Yeah, thats true... But in Into the Sun we have these short sword fight scenes (who are not typically SS Fight Scenes) and the rest talking, talking, talking....
 

Kcs

Member
It is always sad, when people call themselves Seagal fans, and do not care about Seagal, and want to see him as a fighting machine in the movies.

Wake up! Seagal has left the big studios, because he had enough of that. He is not a fighting machine, and who cannot accept that, I think, may not call himself a Seagal fan.
 
I agree. People think that the only thing Seagal should do is to fight, brake arms and legs, shoot and thats all. It's not true. Steven is an actor not a stupid killing machine. It's just like the same with Stallone. Everyone think that the only thing he should do is to play Rambo or Rocky. It's a stupid thing.
 

suziwong

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Staff member
slawek_wozniak said:
I agree. People think that the only thing Seagal should do is to fight, brake arms and legs, shoot and thats all. It's not true. Steven is an actor not a stupid killing machine.

I agree %1000. Why we are waiting only fight from him? He can play drama or comedy or adventure movies.. I am sure he does well.. He tried comedy and he was success..
suzi
 

hofmae

New Member
Yes thats true. I wanted more fights in Submerged, but its ok. The movie is really good.

But he done so many martial-arts movies, so that a fan "expect" martial-arts. This is like chackie chan has no martial arts scenes in his movies, you would'nt like it too.

But for me Submerged is cool. Very cool. But im honest, i love his bone-breaking fights, and i hope someday i will see some again :)
 
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