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kayy911

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I don't think that the threads about the recent allegations about Mr. Seagal should be deleted, it opens up dialogue and just because something is negetive doesn't mean we should delete it and not talk about it on here.
 
I agree. We all love Steven and should be able to express our feelings about the situation..I thought thats what forums were for? If stuff like that is going to be deleted then whats the point?
 

bens85

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I agree. No it is not good news, but otherwise the news is circulating all over the internet through various news channels.

I feel really disappointed about these allegations. I'm really waiting for Mr Seagal's response to them. No, of course somebody's personal life and actors should not affect our perspective as a fan but I was inspired by Mr Seagal not just through his film work but also through his music & his philanthropy
 

suziwong

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If I know Mr.Seagal a little he doesn't enjoy that his fans talking about it. We are fans so we talk his movies, music etc. Also it is not our bussiness we are his fans we are not Judge nor prosecutor..
We never believe he is guilty these are just bad gossips.
It is just my idea of course..
 

marky96

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I am very upset that the threads have been deleted.

Yes we are Seagals fans but we deserve to be able to discuss both the positive and negative aspects surrounding him. I am sure Seagal would want his fans to support him, rather than just maintaining silence on the issue. There may also be those of us who think that the allegations may well be true and who should be able to say that. The allegations in question relate to a serious sexual assault among other charges and to my mind in not allowing anything to be said about it on this site, we are just dismissing the seriousness of the allegations as not worthy of a thread on this site. Seagal deserves to be innocent until proven guilty but the victim, because that is what this lady is, until anything else is proved, also deserves a fair hearing. In our over zealous following of Seagal have some of us become so blind to the fact that he may not be the perfect hero some of claim he is?

In deleting the theads pertaining to this topic, the moderators on this site have in my opinion made a grave error of judgement. Rather than acting for the good of the site, (which could have been claimed in the deletion of posts containing swearing etc) they have acted based on their own bias. Rather than allowing the loyal members of this site to actively debate on one of the most serious issues facing Seagal in recent times, they have acted to cut any mention of this from the site, just because it depicts Seagal in a negative way. The stupidity of this decision is obvious because the facts of the case as they stand are all over the internet. This site is one of the most, if not the most well known Seagal site on the internet, where fans of Seagal come to discuss the good, the bad and the ugly issues that relate to him. And now, if they come here, having heard of these allegation, on TV, online and in print, they find no mention of them. And worse than that if a topic is created they find it first closed, and then deleted without even a message explaining the decision. So what now, is free speech not allowed on this site? What next? If someone posts a negative review of a Seagal film, will it be deleted? Well will it end? If people feel that this is the case they will stop coming here, and those of us that are here will rapidly begin to loose interest.

I'm afraid that this site is taking on all the hallmarks of some sort of police state or dictatorship. Fair enough this is Craig Robertson's site and he should make the rules but what is the point in having the forum if free speech is going to be smothered? Craig himself has so far stayed silent on the issue and I wonder if the decision to remove these threads has been taken with him or by a Admins acting alone. I wonder how balanced the Admins are in their views, especially after the sad death of Mama San, who has not been replaced as a moderator.

No one on this site is asking to act as judge, jury or prosecutor, rather to be allowed to discuss the issues in question.

If anyone would like to see a copy of the post I made yesterday, containing the links to information on the case, including the court documents then please message me and I will email them to you.

Best be quick though, this thread must be due for deletion very soon!
 

Littledragon

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Actually this is a very important issue, this topic should NOT be deleted. We need to discuss this more importantly show our support.

There will be a press conference at the Parish Seagal worked for during Lawman today.
 

suziwong

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I am not dictator it was just my decision. Of course here is Craig's site we can wait for the decision of Craig.
 
Littledragon;202133 said:
Actually this is a very important issue, this topic should NOT be deleted. We need to discuss this more importantly show our support.

I absolutely agree. These two topics should not be removed.
 
i dont know what to believe..steven is known for having many relationships with women over the years and he did cheat on a number of them, but i think the woman is lying and that the allegations shes made are untrue...
 

Chrissy

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Hello everybody,
I was really shocked about this news. I do not want to believe it. But in every headline a little truth is always.
YES, one leaves a lot of and his life with women in the past. But this also act other. This is private.
Nevertheless, many bad things are accused of him. I hope that are not right. But every person is valid as innocent to his guilt is proved. It is right??
I hope this for Steven soon there comes good news. However, his image is away for the first.
See you soon.
Chrissy
 
Statement of Seagal's attorney

"The lawsuit filed by Kayden Nguyen against Steven Seagal is a ridiculous and absurd claim by a disgruntled ex-employee who was fired for using illegal narcotics. The claims in her lawsuit are complete fabrication without a scintilla of truth." said Martin Singer, Steven Seagal's Attorney.
 

kayy911

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So apparently in January of 09 this lady appeared on a daytime talk show in America and said that she has the ability to "manipulate men and trick them into doing anything she wants." I think shes just a money hungry disgruntled employee. This is similar to the Kobe Bryant accusation.
 

Irishgirl

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She was on the Tyra Banks show. I don't know what to think right now. I am in total shock! The only thing I keep rolling around in my head is: Why is this happening when everything was starting to go so well for him. There have been stories going around for years, but I think for me I'm going to sit back and just wait for things to take it's course. Nothing really we can do. I do feel sorry for him at the moment. I'll remember him in my prayers tonight.
 

marky96

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I do feel sorry for Kayden Nguyen at the moment. It is her I will remember in my prayers tonight. Seagal deserves to be treated as innocent until proven guilty and she deserves to be treated as the victim of a serious sexual assault until proven otherwise.
 

irimi-nage

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I dont believe anything about this... especialy after i saw te tyra banks interview with nguyen.

Kayden Nguyen
IS
Out For Money
 

marky96

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Just because she has said she can manipulate men, that does not mean she deserved the kind of treatment that she is alleging she is a victim of. Manipulating men could be something as trivial as flirting with the boss to get a pay rise. If she was really out for fame and money, let's face it there are many more hollywood or sports stars, with a bigger profile and a bigger bank balance. And obviously why would you announce that you were a manipulator and then less than a year later make up a story like this?
 
I refuse to refer to her as a "victim" until it's proven in court. As of today, she is still a dumb manipulative wh***, who can't make money off her looks anymore, "possibly" has a drug problem, and is doing whatever she can to obtain her lifestyle here in Los Angeles (which isn't cheap obviously). If she wasn't trying to get attention in the first place, she wouldn't have gone on one of the most popular talks shows to brag about herself. I heard that her & steven had their own thing going on, he promised to help her with her career, even get her into the movies. Then he didn't keep his word on it, she got angry and felt used. She wanted some big amount of money bc she felt he was wasting her time..then she started all this bullsh*t. Notice how she's taking this to civil court and trying to get MONEY, and not trying to get justice by sending him to jail in a criminal court. Sounds like a Golddigger to me..lol I'm not sure if that story is true but it wouldn't surpise me. <3333 KISSESSS TO STEVEN <3333
 
suziwong;202131 said:
If I know Mr.Seagal a little he doesn't enjoy that his fans talking about it. We are fans so we talk his movies, music etc. Also it is not our bussiness we are his fans we are not Judge nor prosecutor..
We never believe he is guilty these are just bad gossips.
It is just my idea of course..

I agree with you Suzi! Fully agree. It is so disgusting what some people do...
lol Kat
 

marky96

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STEVENPULLMYHAIR;202188 said:
I refuse to refer to her as a "victim" until it's proven in court. As of today, she is still a dumb manipulative wh***, who can't make money off her looks anymore, "possibly" has a drug problem, and is doing whatever she can to obtain her lifestyle here in Los Angeles (which isn't cheap obviously). If she wasn't trying to get attention in the first place, she wouldn't have gone on one of the most popular talks shows to brag about herself. I heard that her & steven had their own thing going on, he promised to help her with her career, even get her into the movies. Then he didn't keep his word on it, she got angry and felt used. She wanted some big amount of money bc she felt he was wasting her time..then she started all this bullsh*t. Notice how she's taking this to civil court and trying to get MONEY, and not trying to get justice by sending him to jail in a criminal court. Sounds like a Golddigger to me..lol I'm not sure if that story is true but it wouldn't surpise me. <3333 KISSESSS TO STEVEN <3333

Well by you're reckoning then, if we are to refuse to accept Kayden Nguyen as a victim, then we must refuse to accept that Seagal is innocent. Are you sure that is what you want? If that really is your view then you must ask yourself if it is appropriate to be posting on a Steven Seagal fan site? What is also not appropriate is the use of foul language on this site, especially when it is the possible victim of a serious sexual assult. And even if she was a 'dumb manipulative wh***', that does not mean she deserved the treatment that she alledges she recieved from Seagal. I'm afraid that your own argument is counter-productive. If she was going to make up allegations like this then why would she, less than a year beforehand, go on, as you say, 'one of the most popular talks shows to brag about herself'? It just not make any sense to draw attention to yourself in that way now does it? It also really doesn't bother me that she is going for a civil suit rather than pressing criminal charges. As I have said elsewhere there could be a number of reasons for this, but it is her right to choose this course. And surely all of you who idolise Seagal so much and want him to pull your hair would prefer, if he is found guilty, a civil action so he can just pay the damages rather than going to prison as could be the case in a criminal proceeding.

I understand STEVENPULLMYHAIR that you want to show Seagal support at this difficult time but I think 'KISSESSS TO STEVEN' is just asking for trouble.

cathleen_jones@yahoo.com;202189 said:
I agree with you Suzi! Fully agree. It is so disgusting what some people do...
lol Kat

'lol Kat'? Is something about this funny to you cathleen_jones@yahoo.com? I may well post comments that are not in tune with the general consensus (because I am not a sheep just blindly following like some people round here) however I have never said that I find this case, which includes 3 serious sexual misdemeanors to be funny unlike you and some other people here seem to be. However I do agree with you that it is disgusting what some people do. You know, like not taking allegations of sexual misconduct seriously.

Through out this topic, many people who support Seagal have admitted that there are many rumors about him and that he has a checkered history with women yet still maintain he could not have done this. What I would say is that there is usually no smoke without fire. And also just because she went on a talk show saying she could manipulate men, that does not necessarily mean that Kayden Nguyen is making this up now.
 

Administrator

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It is okay to discuss the topic here, but as posted by others he is 'innocent until proven guilty'.

No-one on this site knows what happened and what we are reading is speculation. What we do know is Steven Seagal is being sued and currently Lawman is not filming until the case is clear.

There will always be people trying to sue celebrities so they can make a name for themselves and a few dollars.
 
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