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Hell i aint no angel either i was into bad things in my past..But thats just it my past. I call it whacky-tobaccy..Didnt do a thing for me.Iam now just looking for the future.
Zagon said:I fully respect Seagal's aikido, esp. when he was young. But I'm sorry that some on here would let their adoration of him cloud their better judgement in regards to how he would match up against the greatest martial artist to have ever lived.
Zagon said:^^in my last post, for some reason i thought the thread was about on-screen martial artists...I'm sure there are a ton of great fighters out there who dont act, who could take out alot of the famous cats...
and Lotussan....sorry, but you must be smoking some good sh*t. I know I just came on this board, and I def. dont want to disrespect anybody,...so with all due respect - you really dont know what you're talking about.
You admitted that you haven't even really seen Bruce Lee - you think Seagal has more passion about his art than Lee, which is ludicrous beyond belief.
Bruce Lee was on a spiritual level unmatched by anyone (save maybe Bob Marley) I've seen to this day...a unique spark in the history of humanity...
You're wildly imaginative supposition was backwards...Bruce Lee @ 50 would wipe the floor with Seagal @ 30. If you really do appreciate Seagal's spiritual side, you should look into Bruce Lee's writings and philosophy.
Littledragon869 seems to know what's up....
anyways, nothing personal, just givin' my .02.
Kani said:My all time favorite is Steven Seagal but I also respect the talent of Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Bill Wallace, Jet Li and Jackie Chan although Chan's movies are a little bit too silly for my taste.
Gary Gabelhouse said:Hello All,
Not wishing to cause heartburn, but neither Lee nor Seagal are GREAT fighters. Bruce Lee was regularly beat up when he visited Chinatown. Also, he refused numerous challenges. At the seminar/tournament in Long Beach, where he demonstrated his one-inch punch, my teacher and Mike Stone (one very GREAT fighter) were in the audience. After seeing Bruce Lee demonstrate, they challenged Lee to a no-holds barred fight. Lee deferred.
As to our hero, Steven Seagal, while shooting Under Siege, he challenged anyone to successfully apply a lock, bar or choke on him. He was choked out by a 65 year old stunt coordinator named Gene Labell--known in his younger years as Judo Gene Labell (first U.S. National Judo Champion). Seagal, after being choked out, soiled himself and wardrobe was called. Seagal sued Labell and dropped the suit on the condition that Labell could not talk about the incident. Bob Wall (a friend of Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris--was in Enter the Dragon with them) told me personally of the incident--having been on the set at the time, working with the fight coordinator.
Also, Seagal alledgedly was acting rude and cocky in a club in New York City. He challenged "any and all" to take him on. Dan Inosanto (sp?) a mixed martial artist of some achievement, knocked Seagal out with the only punch thrown.
All this said, fighting is for babies and fools . . . imo.
Best Regards,
Gary Gabelhouse
Disciple said:The chokehold/soiling himself story is utter garbage. It's one of those rumours created by some fool who wanted to throw a cheap jab at Sensei. And because this is the internet, it profilerated like an old Chinese Whisper.
And Bruce Lee could kick all their backsides if it came down to it.
Sorry to burst any bubbles and all...