Another Question-: What Happened To The Seagal Projects "House Of Thunder" and ......

MMCK2

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......."Blood On The Moon"?

I often heard word of these two proposed projects and I think I even saw a poster from one of the Cannes films festivels of "Blood On The Moon". Did the money men back out the way they did with Seagal's mafia project "Men Of Honour"?

Does anyone know and also what was the supposed plots of both films?

Peace.

MMCK
 
You may remember both these films were set up at Seagal/Nasso productions?Seagal wanted out of the company due to dodgy dealings Nasso had to the Italian mafia,so these films never got made.

The films were:

1.House Of Thunder
2.Blood On The Moon
3.White Star
4.Smash & Grab

I'll get back to you on the plots!

Come 2000 and the Italian mafia forced Nasso to extort money from Seagal for backing out of all these films.

Peace,

Leon
 

MMCK2

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If they were to be co-produced by Julious R Nasso, that probably figures. I also forgot about "Smash & Grab"

Thanks for the info Leon.

Peace

MMCK
 

MMCK2

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Hi Disciple.

All I know of this project is that is was to be made around the same time as "On Deadly Ground" and 20th Century Fox was the studio it was going to me made with. There were rumours that Fox would not pay Seagal his $20 million pound asking fee and also that other money men backed out of the deal.

Does anyone else know what happened this project and the supposed plot?

Peace

MMCK
 
Brief plot for Blood On The Moon:

In the film, Blood On The Moon, Seagal will play a buisnessman hunting down a modern day pirate gang who slaughter his family.The film was to be directed by Steve Wang(of "Drive" fame).
 

J.Lucas

Active Member
Originally posted by MMCK2
......."Blood On The Moon"?

I often heard word of these two proposed projects and I think I even saw a poster from one of the Cannes films festivels of "Blood On The Moon". Did the money men back out the way they did with Seagal's mafia project "Men Of Honour"?

Does anyone know and also what was the supposed plots of both films?
Peace.
MMCK

The earliest one "Man of Honor" actually did start filming...so there may be footage laying around somewhere......If Seagal is in the footage is unknown to me......it had to do with the Itailian families........I don't recall why this one got scrapped.....something to do with money.....whether it didn't come thru or partially showed up I don't remember........but I know it was weeks into filming before they scrapped it.
"Blood On The Moon" was to start filming.......but the backer(don't remeber the name or country...was not US tho) that promised 4 million only sent 1 million so that came to a halt....and yeah....the pic that we are familiar with apppeared in a French(????????) magazine as an ad for the Cannes film festival......it had to do with modern day pirates that overtake and blowup the cuiser that Seagal's wife and kid were on......so he goes after them.......
"House Of Thunder"....never got out of the pre-production state...they got as far as scouting locations and started some casting...this is where the rumors of Seagal rejecting "fat, ugly" Brazilian women came about.......it was to be an eco-film about the dwindling rain forests in Brazil......but Warner came along and offered Seagal to do On Deadly Ground....
as for the others....I've never seen anything but the name........
"Soldier In The Snowline" was to be about the Chinese oppression in Tibet......where Seagal was to play some kind of freedom fighter helping the monks & other refugees get past the Chinese troops patroling the Himilayas to India.....
I read that this one was dropped mainly for political reasons.....nobody wanted to touch the Chinese persecusion & torture of the Tibeans with a 10 foot pole.....no one wanted to take a chance on disruputing relations with China....
there's a couple of early projects mentioned in "Master Of Harmony" Seagal issue also.....
John
PS: The "Blood On The Moon" pic may be in the gallery here.....but I'm not sure.
 
"House Of Thunder"....never got out of the pre-production state...they got as far as scouting locations and started some casting...this is where the rumors of Seagal rejecting "fat, ugly" Brazilian women came about.......it was to be an eco-film about the dwindling rain forests in Brazil......but Warner came along and offered Seagal to do On Deadly Ground...."

John,I think you are wrong about this.House Of Thunder wasn't even optioned as a possible project untill 1998,so how can he be offered On Deadly Ground when it was completed in '94!!Seagal/Nasso bought the book rights(I forget the authors at this time)for this,along with White Star,in 1998.The film was going to be directed by Dwight H. Little(Marked For Death)and star Jackie Chan's body Guard Ken Lo as the main bad guy.Rising star Donnie Yen was going to be fight chographer.
 

J.Lucas

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Originally posted by justice808
"House Of Thunder"....never got out of the pre-production state...they got as far as scouting locations and started some casting...this is where the rumors of Seagal rejecting "fat, ugly" Brazilian women came about.......it was to be an eco-film about the dwindling rain forests in Brazil......but Warner came along and offered Seagal to do On Deadly Ground...."

John,I think you are wrong about this.House Of Thunder wasn't even optioned as a possible project untill 1998,so how can he be offered On Deadly Ground when it was completed in '94!!Seagal/Nasso bought the book rights(I forget the authors at this time)for this,along with White Star,in 1998.The film was going to be directed by Dwight H. Little(Marked For Death)and star Jackie Chan's body Guard Ken Lo as the main bad guy.Rising star Donnie Yen was going to be fight chographer.

it's possible but I don't think so.....after US....Seagal had his head set on doing a message film(eco-film)......Warner figured it would be a heck of alot cheaper filming in US Alaska than it would be in Brazil....so Seagal in turn got his way to do a eco-film....but then I could be wrong.....much info in the internet is mis-dated and some is totally inacurate.......I usually piece together things from various sources to try and get a picture of what and where things took place....'98??????
that would have been after the expiration of the Warner contract....you mean you think that after House of Thunder never came about he opted to do "The Patriot"?????????????
possible I suppose...
 
Man Of Honor:The Case: You'd think Prince Abdulilah bin Abdul Azia al Saud would think twice before crossing screen ass-kicker Steven Seagal. After all, as any fan of Mr. Hard to Kill can tell you: You tick off Stevie, you in for a world of hurt.

Still, according to a lawsuit filed by the action hero-cum-aspiring blues singer, the prince (a half brother to the very rich King Fahd) reneged on a deal to bankroll a Seagal flick called Man of Honor.

But instead of flying to Saudi Arabia to kick some royal butt (maybe Seagal's a changed man since being named a reincarnated lama), Seagal and his Seagal/Nasso Productions are taking the prince to court. He has filed a $25 million lawsuit claiming breach of contract, intentional misrepresentation and negligent misrepresentation.

Backstory: According to Seagal's legal team, the prince and the movie star met in 1992, with the royal agreeing to finance Man of Honor for $30 mil in exchange for international distribution rights.

That promise was enough to get the 47-year-old, squinty-eyed, ponytailed Aikido master (and, as of last June, a sacred vessel of Tibetan Buddhism) working in earnest on the project. However, after only sending $1.65 million, the prince pulled the plug, the suit says.

Seagal claims he spent his own money developing the aborted feature and that the prince offered no reason for killing the deal.
 
Originally posted by J.Lucas
it's possible but I don't think so.....after US .Seagal had his head set on doing a message film(eco-film)......Warner figured it would be a heck of alot cheaper filming in US Alaska than it would be in Brazil....so Seagal in turn got his way to do a eco-film....but then I could be wrong.....much info in the internet is mis -dated and some is totally inacurate.......I usually piece together things from various sources to try and get a picture of what abnd where things took place....'98??????
that wouild have been after the expiration of the Warner contract....you mean you think that after House of Thunder never came about he opted to do "The Patriot"?????????????

Seagal wasn't with Warner Bros. when he bought the book rights for House Of Thunder!I think you are getting confused.
 

J.Lucas

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yeah...that was part of it.......cool.......
$30 million.????????..man...was I way off..... .I thought it was like 4-5 he pledged...lol
anyway..yeah ....that was part of the info on it......
good find
John
PS: No way I was going to be able to remember that name...lol

I still haven't got a response back from the producer(tho I got a response from the company) on getting a hold of this show....that appears in many sites Seagal filmography...tho the other pic does indicate it was aired in Japan...
unicop2.jpg
 

suziwong

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Blood on the Moon


I found this. Please check out this article from our board I guess it was placed by Craig.

John I am sorry we haven't this poster in the gallery but I have a picture. I attached.

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J.Lucas

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Originally posted by justice808
Seagal wasn't with Warner Bros. when he bought the book rights for House Of Thunder!I think you are getting confused.

Yeah......I wouldn't doubt it..........lol
I was just thinking about it.......and with all the stuff I've read and accumulated over the years from different sources.....trying to put the loose end Seagal things in order is like a jig-saw puzzle only harder......lol.......with un-finished or scrapped films,TV shows, CD's, restuarants,wines,oils,etc......I find it almost impossible to get the order correctly.......sure won't be the first time I've gotten things mixed up.....and sure won't be the last as far as Seagal goes......lol
John
Ok then House of Thunder was apossible proposal in '98.....
what in your opinon was the film scrapped when Warner offered him ODG?
 

Amos Stevens

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Well you guys & gals have been busy little beavers..now I don't have to go look up anything,I will just sit back with my feet up & read! hee hee
 

J.Lucas

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Ok.......I was curious so I looked thru "Master Of Harmony"
......Justice is right about "House Of Thunder"......
it was "Man Of Honor" I was getting mixed up with.........according to this article.....Seagal wanted to direct after Under Siege........"Man Of Honor" filmed for 1 week(not 3 as I stated before) then ......."Joe Roth left Twentieth Century Fox, and Fox had problems with the financing and pulled the picture. It would have marked Seagal's directorial debut. The film is on hold and Seagal shelled out over a million dollars of his own money to pay the crew.
Warner Bros. quickly jumped on Seagal's change of plans and gave him a directional debut with "On Deadly Ground"
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sorry about the errors
John
PS: Also says Seagal aoppeared on the Arsenio show(1990) talking about his disappointment in HTK.......they say it's obvious there were differeces between the actor and director on which way the picture would go.....
 

MMCK2

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Originally posted by J.Lucas
Ok.......I was curious so I looked thru "Master Of Harmony"
......Justice is right about "House Of Thunder"......
it was "Man Of Honor" I was getting mixed up with.........according to this article.....Seagal wanted to direct after Under Siege........"Man Of Honor" filmed for 1 week(not 3 as I stated before) then ......."Joe Roth left Twentieth Century Fox, and Fox had problems with the financing and pulled the picture. It would have marked Seagal's directorial debut. The film is on hold and Seagal shelled out over a million dollars of his own money to pay the crew.
Warner Bros. quickly jumped on Seagal's change of plans and gave him a directional debut with "On Deadly Ground"
'
sorry about the errors
John
PS: Also says Seagal aoppeared on the Arsenio show(1990) talking about his disappointment in HTK.......they say it's obvious there were differeces between the actor and director on which way the picture would go.....

Yeah, that is what I thought as I think I remember Memphis Bleek from the other message board saying that Seagal was to make "Man Of Honour" straight after "Under Siege".

Thanks for all the info.

:)

Peace

MMCK
 
I still wonder what On Deadly Ground has to do with House Of Thunder?Or perhaps i'm missing something.As far as I know both HOT & White Star were optioned as possible projects in '98.
 
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