Maximum Conviction

RYBACKSBACK

Member
MAx Conviction isn't doing anything better than True Justice in any way! After waiting all this time for Max Conviction i don't think it has been worth it. There is some reasonable parts in it but i think any of us could have come up with a better storyline and it has a real low budget feel about it. Seagal does his best but he's competing with Austin for screen time. Please dump Waxman he's done enough damage!!
 

DiDa

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MAx Conviction isn't doing anything better than True Justice in any way! After waiting all this time for Max Conviction i don't think it has been worth it. There is some reasonable parts in it but i think any of us could have come up with a better storyline and it has a real low budget feel about it. Seagal does his best but he's competing with Austin for screen time. Please dump Waxman he's done enough damage!!

I have to disagree with you. Waxman is doing a great job. He is the one that saved Seagal out of his low quality dtv movies like Attach Force and Black Dawn. The Keeper and A Dangerous Man look good and have great cinematography. Also Waxman is the main director of True Justice. Waxman and Seagal are friends. Seagal likes to work with him and that's why also Seagal puts in some effort.
 

marky96

Active Member
MAx Conviction isn't doing anything better than True Justice in any way! After waiting all this time for Max Conviction i don't think it has been worth it. There is some reasonable parts in it but i think any of us could have come up with a better storyline and it has a real low budget feel about it. Seagal does his best but he's competing with Austin for screen time. Please dump Waxman he's done enough damage!!

I always thought that Seagal appearing in a film with another action star was going to be a problem. Not only are they competing for screen time but when it's people like Steve Austin or Anderson Silva all they are going to do is show how out of shape Seagal really is. Even Danny Trejo who is 7 years older than Seagal is more believable as an action star than Seagal currently is.

I have to agree on Waxman though, he needs to go!
 

DiDa

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Staff member
I really don't understand the negative feeling towards Waxman. Do you want Michael Keusch back? Or Michael Oblowitz?
 

rastafari

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Waxman is better than most STV directors and i watch alot of STV films

Ernie Barbarash(Van Dammes go to man) is a poor director compared to waxman

AG had a 10M budget and was a shocking film yet MC only cost 6M and is a far better film

although 6 bullets was OK waxman could have made a better film IMO

Van Damme needs to stay with John Hymes who is a better director for him and while i think Seagal should stick with Waxman if he is to continue with STV films



http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...-4D4Cg&usg=AFQjCNE7OtwnlBQejSLQ0Bw1ME7A5L7M5Q
 

DiDa

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Waxman is better than most STV directors and i watch alot of STV films

Ernie Barbarash(Van Dammes go to man) is a poor director compared to waxman

AG had a 10M budget and was a shocking film yet MC only cost 6M and is a far better film

although 6 bullets was OK waxman could have made a better film IMO

Van Damme needs to stay with John Hymes who is a better director for him and while i think Seagal should stick with Waxman if he is to continue with STV films

Well spoken...:)
 

Martin01

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Waxman is a surely a better director than Michael Keusch and others he worked with, but nevertheless, the movies are starting to bore me. I really didn't like "Maximum Conviction" with it's boring story and the shaky camera during the fights. The best Waxman-movie I think was the first one, "The Keeper" which had good locations, solid fight scenes and a lot of charm. But I don't think that will happen again.

There are three things Seagal should make now:

- Losing weight
- Asking Roel Reiné for directing the next Seagal movie
- Undersign for a role in the next Ependables movie


But unfortunately, nothing of this will happen.
 

marky96

Active Member
Waxman is a surely a better director than Michael Keusch and others he worked with, but nevertheless, the movies are starting to bore me. I really didn't like "Maximum Conviction" with it's boring story and the shaky camera during the fights. The best Waxman-movie I think was the first one, "The Keeper" which had good locations, solid fight scenes and a lot of charm. But I don't think that will happen again.

There are three things Seagal should make now:

- Losing weight
- Asking Roel Reiné for directing the next Seagal movie
- Undersign for a role in the next Ependables movie


But unfortunately, nothing of this will happen.

You're right none of it will!

Waxman is better than some of the others but his films with Seagal are still nowhere near where they need to be.

Getting Roel Reine to direct another film is a good idea. Since last working with Seagal on Pistol Whipped in 2008 he has directed a number of films with larger budgets and bigger stars including sequels to The Marine, The Scorpion King, 12 Rounds and two Death Race sequels. He also has this western starring Danny Trejo coming out soon:

http://collider.com/dead-in-tombstone-trailer/193440/
 

RYBACKSBACK

Member
I always thought that Seagal appearing in a film with another action star was going to be a problem. Not only are they competing for screen time but when it's people like Steve Austin or Anderson Silva all they are going to do is show how out of shape Seagal really is. Even Danny Trejo who is 7 years older than Seagal is more believable as an action star than Seagal currently is.

I have to agree on Waxman though, he needs to go![/quote

Glad to hear i'm not the only one who thinks this!! :-D
 

RYBACKSBACK

Member
I have to disagree with you. Waxman is doing a great job. He is the one that saved Seagal out of his low quality dtv movies like Attach Force and Black Dawn. The Keeper and A Dangerous Man look good and have great cinematography. Also Waxman is the main director of True Justice. Waxman and Seagal are friends. Seagal likes to work with him and that's why also Seagal puts in some effort.

Yep, Waxman did a few good ones but Max Conviction is a step backwards i feel. True justice seems to have more effort behind it on Seagal's part.
 

RYBACKSBACK

Member
Waxman is a surely a better director than Michael Keusch and others he worked with, but nevertheless, the movies are starting to bore me. I really didn't like "Maximum Conviction" with it's boring story and the shaky camera during the fights. The best Waxman-movie I think was the first one, "The Keeper" which had good locations, solid fight scenes and a lot of charm. But I don't think that will happen again.

There are three things Seagal should make now:

- Losing weight
- Asking Roel Reiné for directing the next Seagal movie
- Undersign for a role in the next Ependables movie


But unfortunately, nothing of this will happen.

Again, this all sounds good but your right the odds are stacked against it!
 

rastafari

Well-Known Member
Waxman is a surely a better director than Michael Keusch and others he worked with, but nevertheless, the movies are starting to bore me. I really didn't like "Maximum Conviction" with it's boring story and the shaky camera during the fights. The best Waxman-movie I think was the first one, "The Keeper" which had good locations, solid fight scenes and a lot of charm. But I don't think that will happen again.

There are three things Seagal should make now:

- Losing weight
- Asking Roel Reiné for directing the next Seagal movie
- Undersign for a role in the next Ependables movie


But unfortunately, nothing of this will happen.

I agree with one of those(losing weight) but the other 2 i dont

1.Losing weight is fine but dont expect EW weight as he was 48 when he filmed that now he is 60....maybe out of reach-driven to kill weight is the best to expect now and i agree he was too big in MC

2.Who is to say RR would want to work with seagal...Its ok saying seagal should work with this perosn or that person but its up to the director and for me RR is working with Universial now and with better budgets so why would he work with seagal with 5-6M budgets and a star with an ego.If it was up to me seagal should be working with Simon West,Pierre Morel or Chris Nolan but he never will so we will have to accept waxman or similar
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0603628/
3.We all thing that seagal has turned down EX3 but IMO its down to Avi Lerner who had problems with seagal before(MFJ,TYD) and i dont think he would want seagal on any of his films again....and although people keep saying its slys film at the end of the day Lerner is the boss of this franchise
 

Paul Brown

Member
Finally UK release date announced: 13th of March 2013 shame its so far away from the US release date but eh-oh thankfully I've got a multi region dvd player and a very loving girlfriend who has ordered it via bluray/dvd combo from Amazin.co.uk-- Much love for the lady :)
 

Martin01

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Staff member
2.Who is to say RR would want to work with seagal...Its ok saying seagal should work with this perosn or that person but its up to the director and for me RR is working with Universial now and with better budgets so why would he work with seagal with 5-6M budgets and a star with an ego.If it was up to me seagal should be working with Simon West,Pierre Morel or Chris Nolan but he never will so we will have to accept waxman or similar


The Sporpion King 3 had only a budget of 6 million according to Wikipedia, which is less than some of Seagals latest movies.

Reiné would have been perfect for “Force of Execution”, because he worked with all of the three main actors before.
 

rastafari

Well-Known Member
I agree he would be a good director for this but it dosent mean he would want to work with seagal.

Also SK3 may have cost 6M but death race sequals cost 15M and had the backing of Universial Pictures and WS Anderson

also seagals budgets are taken before acting costs so MC cost 6M but take away austin and seagals cost and the shooting budget would have been about 3M

SK3 had no stars so more of the 6M will be spent on the film quality

PW cost 8M but i remeber reading somewhere that the shooting budget was 5M has seagal was on 3M a film with sony

to me id like seagal to take less per film so that the money can be spent on extra days filming,better cgi,better locations better support cast but seagal will always want the maximum fee he can get from any film he does
 

DiDa

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Staff member
Dutch dvd / blu ray release date: May 30, 2013

Cover:

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marky96

Active Member
That's a pretty good cover. Interesting that Seagal is billed second after Steve Austin. Maybe that is something we will see more of in the future with Seagal billed lower than other stars perhaps in Forces of Execution for example.
 
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