Steven Seagal sued for $14 million by production company
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kickingbird
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Environmental awareness
Just for record, Seagal himself rewrote scripts for On Deadly Ground and Fire Down Below to help people become environmentally aware - Seagal himself has said this. Personally, those two are some of my faves of his films, although I do like the older films. The newer films seem to be trying very hard to be hip and cool, or whatever the genre is nowadays. As the saying goes "I'm too old for this sh.." (actually I'm a year older than Seagal).
Follywood has always had scandals and lawsuits. There are always many "sides" to the stories, and we, the public, are only aware of what the PRESS feeds us. Unless we are personally involved in a situation, WE won't really know the entire story. Therefore, it is premature to jump to conclusions from reading what reporters write, especially stories that sound of tabloid mentality.
Not sure what "type" of Seagal fan I am ... I only know my blood type is AB+ ...
Fandom fighting aside, it will be interesting to see how these lawsuits pan out. I personally have utmost respect for Mr. Seagal as a Human Being and Sansei and will hold my speculation in rein because I do not know the "real" story behind any of it.
For those of you who know me, hi! For you newbies, hi too! I was on the "old" board during the clone wars, and switched to this board but barely have the time to hang out here much ... it is garden time, as well as monsoon time ... which means I should have planted rice instead of tomatoes!
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Just for record, Seagal himself rewrote scripts for On Deadly Ground and Fire Down Below to help people become environmentally aware - Seagal himself has said this. Personally, those two are some of my faves of his films, although I do like the older films. The newer films seem to be trying very hard to be hip and cool, or whatever the genre is nowadays. As the saying goes "I'm too old for this sh.." (actually I'm a year older than Seagal).
Follywood has always had scandals and lawsuits. There are always many "sides" to the stories, and we, the public, are only aware of what the PRESS feeds us. Unless we are personally involved in a situation, WE won't really know the entire story. Therefore, it is premature to jump to conclusions from reading what reporters write, especially stories that sound of tabloid mentality.
Not sure what "type" of Seagal fan I am ... I only know my blood type is AB+ ...
Fandom fighting aside, it will be interesting to see how these lawsuits pan out. I personally have utmost respect for Mr. Seagal as a Human Being and Sansei and will hold my speculation in rein because I do not know the "real" story behind any of it.
For those of you who know me, hi! For you newbies, hi too! I was on the "old" board during the clone wars, and switched to this board but barely have the time to hang out here much ... it is garden time, as well as monsoon time ... which means I should have planted rice instead of tomatoes!
In Oneness
and Peace
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Thats one thing i dont know Serena is my blood type doesnt matter anyway i cant give blood to any one else because of my diabetes and i cant donate any organs which is an shame because i WAS an donor before my diabetes was diagnosed...my doctor says other then having this wrong with me all my organs are really good ..whats your blood type Serena?..
GlimmerMan
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Kickingbird - good to see you and thanks for an insightful post. I remember the 'Clone Wars' of the old site only too well...
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Nick
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"Do you really think he's dumb??? He knows exactly that his new movies are not as good as the old ones...But i think he hasn't the time, and he want to put efforts in other things (Music per example) ..."
Okay maybe it's the fact that it's the morning and I can't fall asleep but do you hear what you are saying? He hasn't got the time? Well obviously he has. I never knew Steven was such a busy man. What makes him so different from other Hollywood actors who make up to five films a year? Does he get special treatment? Considering he makes short fights, uses doubles, and even has his lines dubbed I wouldn’t call him a hard working man. He is obviously laid back and just likes the money to continue his lavish life style. He has one CD I believe. And trust me it doesn't take all that time to work on a CD. I just don't see how you can justify your answer. It's plain and clear he cares less and less.
Okay maybe it's the fact that it's the morning and I can't fall asleep but do you hear what you are saying? He hasn't got the time? Well obviously he has. I never knew Steven was such a busy man. What makes him so different from other Hollywood actors who make up to five films a year? Does he get special treatment? Considering he makes short fights, uses doubles, and even has his lines dubbed I wouldn’t call him a hard working man. He is obviously laid back and just likes the money to continue his lavish life style. He has one CD I believe. And trust me it doesn't take all that time to work on a CD. I just don't see how you can justify your answer. It's plain and clear he cares less and less.
Nick
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You know I wrote two movie Scripts and collaborated on one in the past half a year. I am tired too. But you sort of try to return to form after rest. I rather have Steven take a year or so off and then return in full form. To be honest I can't find the words to express myself anymore. I will always remain a fan, I will always defend him to a reasonable degree, but I cannot stay blind. When me and you first started discussing this you were sort of keeping your answers positive with an "Ok". But now your opinioned changed. There are still Fans here who will cherish the ground he walks on. But I hope they just like you realize its not a healthy practice.
GlimmerMan
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Nick - sorry I missed you in the chatroom - come back in if you're still online.
I have been a fan of Seagal for a long time - almost from the beginning of his movie career. However, there are high and low points in any actors career and it got to the stage where I was wondering if we would actually see a movie again from Seagal after Fire Down Below.
Seagal took a lengthy hiatus from making movies after that movie was made and, despite some people (and especially some critic's) dislike of it, I really really enjoyed it. His return with The Patriot was welcomed by me and although it was different to what I had seen before, with less action, I was generally pleased with the result as Seagal looked better than ever - he had slimmed down somewhat and seemed to be branching out more into dramatic acting rather than just mindless ass kicking. He also had longer hair than ever in this movie. Just an observation.
Then came Exit Wounds, which I went to see on the cinema and thought it was amazing. Ticker followed that (I think it was filmed before Exit Wounds, but was not released until after it) and as hard as Seagal tried in that movie, it was a badly directed mess. That seemed to mark the decline as his movies since than, while not being essentially BAD; they have all been generally mediocre compared to what I am used to.
No one can accuse Seagal of not trying, as his work rate has nearly doubled as he has got older - however, I think I have posted this before - it is the job of the director to give him a kick in his ass on set and make sure he gets to the set on time, looks his best and does the work for which he is being very well paid. If the director can't do this (and it appears that some of his latest directors cannot), then they shouldn't be directing.
Seagal has genuine on-screen presence and I will always buy and watch his latest movies as they come out and will never tire of watching his earlier movies. However, I feel that at this moment in time, Seagal needs to team up with a GOOD, well known director once again - someone who will not pander to his prima donna antics and will ensure they get a good performance from him (which we know he is capable of). Either that or he needs to quit making the forgettable B movies we have grown used to and find something else to do, such as concentrating on his blossoming career as a musician.
I will try to end with a positive note, as I am getting on my own fu*king nerves with all the constant negativity. I will have to reserve judgement for the time being on Submerged, as I have not yet seen it, but I must say that I am looking forward to it, as it has had mixed reviews. Ordinarily, when a new Seagal film is released, be it a B-movie or not, it is met by an onslaught of negative reviews, some of which are downright insulting not only to the man himself, but as to us as fans. However, with this movie's release and a few more in the pipeline, maybe we will see something of a comeback and once again have a credible action hero in Steven Seagal.
I have been a fan of Seagal for a long time - almost from the beginning of his movie career. However, there are high and low points in any actors career and it got to the stage where I was wondering if we would actually see a movie again from Seagal after Fire Down Below.
Seagal took a lengthy hiatus from making movies after that movie was made and, despite some people (and especially some critic's) dislike of it, I really really enjoyed it. His return with The Patriot was welcomed by me and although it was different to what I had seen before, with less action, I was generally pleased with the result as Seagal looked better than ever - he had slimmed down somewhat and seemed to be branching out more into dramatic acting rather than just mindless ass kicking. He also had longer hair than ever in this movie. Just an observation.
Then came Exit Wounds, which I went to see on the cinema and thought it was amazing. Ticker followed that (I think it was filmed before Exit Wounds, but was not released until after it) and as hard as Seagal tried in that movie, it was a badly directed mess. That seemed to mark the decline as his movies since than, while not being essentially BAD; they have all been generally mediocre compared to what I am used to.
No one can accuse Seagal of not trying, as his work rate has nearly doubled as he has got older - however, I think I have posted this before - it is the job of the director to give him a kick in his ass on set and make sure he gets to the set on time, looks his best and does the work for which he is being very well paid. If the director can't do this (and it appears that some of his latest directors cannot), then they shouldn't be directing.
Seagal has genuine on-screen presence and I will always buy and watch his latest movies as they come out and will never tire of watching his earlier movies. However, I feel that at this moment in time, Seagal needs to team up with a GOOD, well known director once again - someone who will not pander to his prima donna antics and will ensure they get a good performance from him (which we know he is capable of). Either that or he needs to quit making the forgettable B movies we have grown used to and find something else to do, such as concentrating on his blossoming career as a musician.
I will try to end with a positive note, as I am getting on my own fu*king nerves with all the constant negativity. I will have to reserve judgement for the time being on Submerged, as I have not yet seen it, but I must say that I am looking forward to it, as it has had mixed reviews. Ordinarily, when a new Seagal film is released, be it a B-movie or not, it is met by an onslaught of negative reviews, some of which are downright insulting not only to the man himself, but as to us as fans. However, with this movie's release and a few more in the pipeline, maybe we will see something of a comeback and once again have a credible action hero in Steven Seagal.
Lollipop
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I do not cherish the ground he walks on, I know we ladies have our fun teasing over him!! But you all are right some movies were very good to me and other's just so so!!! I do love his music and maybe he should drop the movie's for awhile and concentrate on music!! Obviously to alot of fans his heart is not in it at the present time!! I think he has the potential to come back and make movie's we all would enjoy!! And maybe he will!
I am just hoping he will stay out in some capacity even if it is just music for now and not divide the forum into fans 1 and 2!
I enjoy coming here!!
I am just hoping he will stay out in some capacity even if it is just music for now and not divide the forum into fans 1 and 2!
I enjoy coming here!!
GlimmerMan
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Lollipop said:
Dear me! I have to agree with this...
GlimmerMan
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I was astonished out of my catatonic state at this phenomenon also.
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GlimmerMan
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Increase the peace.
Storm
Smile dammit!
Good on ya man.I liked that post. Seagal is trying i think. As he gets older,the budgets and FX decrease. Q is..do we stick around and hope for better? I know the ans for most here is yes.
Clement,that was a really nice thing to say. Thanks.You too Nick.
Kickingbird,great to see you posting. Remember me?
Talking of old site clone wars i remember you being disresespected and those responsible getting sorted. The things said to you were unforgiveable..
Clement,that was a really nice thing to say. Thanks.You too Nick.
Kickingbird,great to see you posting. Remember me?
Talking of old site clone wars i remember you being disresespected and those responsible getting sorted. The things said to you were unforgiveable..
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