Whats up with www.stevenseagal.com

Mama San

Administrator
Hey, Turbo!!!
Good to hear from you!!
On the "old stevenseagal.com",
supposedly, Steven did comment
on some questions put to him in
the "Martial Arts" section! Remember?
Also Phillip B. Goldfine, Binh Dang &
Scott Hall, among others, were all a
part of that site, at that time!
The "new stevenseagal.com" site?
If anyone one of these men are
associated with it then I would say
it should be legit!
Now, why any one of them would
deny the "old" site is beyond me!
I would say that there is more in that
wood pile than just the shavings!
God bless,
Mama san/Casey
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
starmaiden;174174 said:
Hey Heather....
long time no see, but u look "pissed of" ..what's up dear friend?
hope all is well, i have loads to catch up
nice to see u all guys in here..

Me get pissed off ?..when?..that must be my evil twin..
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
Mama san;174202 said:
Hmmmmmm!!!
I was over at stevenseagal.com this morning and
I happened upon the "Movie" section and a few
trolls infecting the place. So I went to the "Open
Forum", that's where "Lo, the moderator" had
introduced herself, and I left her and Goji a post
telling them that "Movies" had an infestation.
I was only trying to help them because I know
how difficult it can be at times.
Well, I went for an on-line shopping spree and
then decided to check back and see if they had
aquired any more trolls. Most of the trolls had been
deleted but my "post" was also gone. Accident?
Perhaps!
So, I think from now on I'll just let them look for
their own trolls and spammers and I'll just stay
here and, along with Craig, Serena, TD and Suzi,
we'll make sure our site stays decent and clean.
God bless,
Mama san

Yeah - isn't it a pain when someone deletes your posts.
 

Mama San

Administrator
GlimmerMan;175191 said:
Yeah - isn't it a pain when someone deletes your posts.


G-Man,
My only concern was for the site itself and trying
to warn the "powers that be" that there was a
problem brewing with the trolls and scammers!

I did not use any foul language nor did I try to instigate
any trouble what-so-ever on that site! If, the fact that
my post was deleted had bothered me, I would have raised
cane over there! In my opinion, whom ever deleted my post
may or may not have had a good reason for doing so. The
decision to delete any post/thread is strickly up to the
moderators and the rules of the board!

One good reason for deleting my post may have been
the fact that the situation had been taken care of and
there was no longer any need for the post!
They could have thanked me? Yes, I suppose they could
have but I am not going to lose any sleep over it! It just
isn't that important to me!
You seem to be more concerned over it than I do!
God bless,
Mama san
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
If that site is over run with numb skulls then thats what they deserve i get an e-mail from some nutter there but i just delete it after i have told him to get lost in my way...
 

Gui

New Member
I have some good threads which I started ( RE: The Weymouth gig in the music section etc...) who have been deleted for no reason...

I am disappointed about that, so I don't think I'll bother to post on stevenseagal.com as it happened twice now.

Big shame,

Never mind hey ?!:D

We got the best Steven Seagal forum right here !

Much energy,
:apeace:
 

whisperer

New Member
a little FYI

topic posts on stevenseagal.com are set for auto deletion in 30 days if nobody comments on them
from what i have read here it looks like this fanbase enjoys criticizing and alienating the official site rather than just asking what why how etc.
that's to bad and no wonder there is a divide amongst the fans

hope some of you find a better path
Namaste
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
I think the issue is that anyone from here that goes over there hasn't been able to figure out the whys and hows of its operation and management. I've been over a couple of times myself and aside from the fact that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of interesting topics, it's a very awkward interface and takes some getting used to.

There's still a lot of bad feeling and fallout from the original official site (which was a lot prettier and easier to get around) and its lack of management. While those who'd been "there" at the time agree that those people are long gone, those running the current site have yet to prove themselves.

In the last incarnation, at least the guy who designed and ran the site, Stipko, was pretty much front and centre and participated in the forums. And yet, some members who participated in this forum who went visiting over there were banned, for no apparent reason. Don't know if that's happened yet with the new crew, but it certainly left a bad taste when it happened.

I still haven't figured out yet who the admins are over there, and I'm certainly not going to ask or identify myself to them.
 

whisperer

New Member
TDWoj;175274 said:
I think the issue is that anyone from here that goes over there hasn't been able to figure out the whys and hows of its operation and management. I've been over a couple of times myself and aside from the fact that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of interesting topics, it's a very awkward interface and takes some getting used to.

not sure what you mean about being an awkward interface you select discuss and then one of the sections and go - doesn't seem to be too much different than this interface from what i've seen, in fact i bet one can find this one difficult at first also until one gets the hang of working it
as far as the management what is it that is needed to know? its managed and its a on a need to know basis with anyone involved, fans are not necessarily on the need to know list - if that's offensive then i'm sorry you are offended
the site now has moderators keeping the spams down
yeah sure, the topics are not forever unlike here but that is about the only difference i can see without doing a complete breakdown which i dont have the time for but basically the topics that remain active stay on the boards
as for being interesting well i see what is here on the today's posts and to me really no difference there either other than you all have a happy birthday thing - its fan contributed so to me if fans dont contribute then its dead
as far as upgrading to a more protected better site, well, that is getting looked into


There's still a lot of bad feeling and fallout from the original official site (which was a lot prettier and easier to get around) and its lack of management. While those who'd been "there" at the time agree that those people are long gone, those running the current site have yet to prove themselves.

that was then this is now, don't judge one management team due to another's actions - don't just assume it will be a retake of what happened years ago
what does anyone have to prove really? the site is up and running and seems to be doing fine so far


In the last incarnation, at least the guy who designed and ran the site, Stipko, was pretty much front and centre and participated in the forums. And yet, some members who participated in this forum who went visiting over there were banned, for no apparent reason. Don't know if that's happened yet with the new crew, but it certainly left a bad taste when it happened.

Stipko was involved with the site only during the construction of the site and then gone, he was all hype initially then failed to keep it updated as soon as he was done with the complete set up - he couldn't even find the time to put in updated tour information that was fed to him - therefore no longer the web dude
as for anyone getting banned i am unaware anyone got banned unless they were disrespectful toward Mr.Seagal or other fans, or spammers which is the same policy over on this new site - disrespect is not tolerated and i am sure everyone agrees that is a right policy, warnings are given if anyone falls out of line that is a real poster and aparent fan
as for advertisers well they just get offed so keep from advertising porn, vitamins, jobs, rubs or whatever and all should be fine


I still haven't figured out yet who the admins are over there, and I'm certainly not going to ask or identify myself to them.

again, that would be on a need to know basis, there is a management email for any concerns etc other than that they are not required to show their face and interact with you
the site is a site, it's for fans to interact with eachother no different than this one, updates will be posted as they see fit or necessary but yes total time devotion to it is not in the cards and that needs to be accepted

point i am making is just how i see comments, judgements and jumping to conclusions without the right or being in the know - just assumptions on who and what
i dont see that on the Official site, i see it here so i commented plain and simple and now explaining of which really is not necessary but i felt like appeasing today
i dont need to come here and you dont need to go there it is everyone's choice
but the basic rule of if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all is what comes to my mind - constructive criticism is fine but aside from that this stabbing and bashing is not a necessary or an uniting component of any site

Have a good one
Namaste
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
I seem to be having communication problems here - clearly, no one is making the distinction between when I make observations and when I make criticisms. My comments were strictly observations and commentary.

I will add this: because the stevenseagal.com site is the "official" site, there is a certain expectation that it will have a lot more than what it does have. I know people make the comparision (some might say, unfairly) to this site, but that is because this site has a LOT of information that is nowhere to be seen on the official site. (Including the two threads which I haven't updated yet this year because of time constraints - mea culpa.)

There is also the expectation, long abandoned by long-suffering fans, that "himself" will appear to talk to the fans on the site from time to time. This he will not do. Fans are disappointed, naturally, and react perhaps not in the best way.

As to those were banned on that site from this one, they were banned because of *who they were*, not because they did anything bad.

With whoever's running the site so far in this round, that hasn't happened yet. Let us hope this continues.
 

whisperer

New Member
TDWoj;175285 said:
I seem to be having communication problems here - clearly, no one is making the distinction between when I make observations and when I make criticisms. My comments were strictly observations and commentary.

no communication problem
i never said anything about anyone in particular being critical (no mention of names) - it's a general statement from my observation regarding some statements made here about the other site and the people at the other site
Now, however, yes your comments about the past web people says you are critical about this one automatically because of the past people - warranting the statement of not judging who or what you don't know just because


I will add this: because the stevenseagal.com site is the "official" site, there is a certain expectation that it will have a lot more than what it does have. I know people make the comparision (some might say, unfairly) to this site, but that is because this site has a LOT of information that is nowhere to be seen on the official site. (Including the two threads which I haven't updated yet this year because of time constraints - mea culpa.)

as told to many:
"We make announcements and there is a news and links page where we post events and such when they are "official." Thanks for your input though. As far as the forum, we installed this for his fans. Mr. Seagal is extremely busy balancing his musical, cinematic, spiritual and philanthropic endeavors; not to mention making time for his family" ---- Mr. Seagal's Management

and to address the expectation issue that is all the fans doings, this expectation thing - the more that is expected the more chance for disappointment, things need to be taken for what they are no more no less, enjoy his movies, enjoy his music, enjoy his site etc etc. enjoy it all for what it is


There is also the expectation, long abandoned by long-suffering fans, that "himself" will appear to talk to the fans on the site from time to time. This he will not do. Fans are disappointed, naturally, and react perhaps not in the best way.

As to those were banned on that site from this one, they were banned because of *who they were*, not because they did anything bad.


the stipko site just before this one banned people just for who they were ? hmmmmmm was not aware of that --- sorry


With whoever's running the site so far in this round, that hasn't happened yet. Let us hope this continues.


hey no argument just explaining some stuff is all

have a good one
 

Turboman

Onegai shimasu
I remembers some stuff you mentioned. The site got really bad and ugly due to some ''unfortunate'' people who thought they had to abuse the website for their own ego's.
 

Mama San

Administrator
Turbo,
Some of us have fairly good memories
but then others seem to have a very
selective memory loss.
Those who do not remember what went on
at the old site......either do not wish to
remember or they weren't there!!
Like you, I was there and it was disgusting!
God bless,
Mama san
 

whisperer

New Member
Fyi--lottery Posted On The Official Site
hello glimmerman, no i am not admin but thank you for the greeting

as for what happened in the past, well, a new group is handling this one, it is still new and has some growing to do but things are being looked into
whatever happened in the past is over and done - so everyone please try to remember that and just judge each site as its own individual site
 
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