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Above The Law 2.. In Development.

Mason

Well-Known Member
#41
Is it even possible for Seagal and woodie to make the movie without the permission from Warner Brothers ?? I mean dosn't Warner Brothers still own the rights ???
 

Martin01

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Staff member
#42
It's really bad to see Seagals filmography of the last years. We haven't seen a true Seagal movie, where he really is the main actor, since almost 7 years. He made some pretty entertaining movies between 2007 and 2010, since then he mostly appears in supporting roles of mostly boring movies. Even the more decent, like "Killing Salazar", don't work because of his limited screen time. They may be passable action movies, but just not Seagal movies. Also, Seagals shape was mostly better in the last decade. I don't expect to see him in "Exit Wounds" -shape again, but something like "Driven to Kill", where he really seemed to care about the product, should be possible.
The only interesting projects seem to either disappear or, like "Attrition", delay multiple times.
Also I don't understand why he chooses "Above the Law" instead of "Under Siege" to make a sequel. However, Roel Reiné would be a decent director choice for example.
 

Mason

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#43
I don't expect to see him in "Exit Wounds" -shape Again, but something like "Driven to Kill", where he really seemed to care about the product, should be possible.
The only interesting projects seem to either disappear or, like "Attrition", delay multiple times.
Also I don't understand why he chooses "Above the Law" instead of "Under Siege" to make a sequel. However, Roel Reiné would be a decent director choice for example.
I'm sure if he wanted to he could get back in Exit Wounds shape again, the question is if he wants to spend all those hours doing it ?? But i'm sure he cares about the product for Above The Law 2.. We cant actually judge what we havn't seen yet. So lets wait and see. With all the critisism Seagal has gotten over the years on social media because of his weight, i'm sure that he knows that people dont want to see a chubby Nico Toscani in Above The law 2.. But again if that is the way he chooses to appear if the movie is happening, then we just going to have to deal with it ;);) ..

I'm sure other people are thinking the exact same thing.. It also surprises me..
 
#45
Good News! Very excited for ATL2!! It could work. Seagal needs to loose 15-20 pounds, no voice dubbing, keep it simple, try to do as much hand-to-hand as he can, and minimize stunt double usage!! Above the Law could be as good as "The Keeper" and "A Dangerous Man"!!!
 

Mason

Well-Known Member
#48
We shouldn't get too excited. The movie isn't even in pre-production. Seagal's assisstant at Steamroller Productions is just writing a script. Shooting is still far away....
Exactly.
And it will most likely be an overweight Seagal, which takes away from it completely for me..
 
#53
I really enjoyed the last UNISOL movie and (gulp!) UFO truth be told (but none of that was down to Van Dammes involvement) I totally hear (and get) what you're saying about his ambition and dedication. I'd never question that. Van Damme puts a lot more effort in his projects than Seagal ever would. But other than a few flashy kicks, I never really thought of him as an imposing or impressive 'presence' to start with (even in his heyday)

Everyone else from the EXPENDABLES franchise (other than Stallone & Schwarzenegger) has gone back to DTV land as soon as the movies have finished shooting. So whilst I'm sure Van Damme & Lundgren enjoyed the 'Red Carpet' treatment, nothing has really changed for them since the EXPENDABLES? Raising ones profile in a big budget movie is fine....but the old-school action scene is so played out nowadays, you have to make 'ensemble' pieces in order to get asses on seats......No-one cares about Van Damme's solo efforts (probably even less than Seagals) projects like 'Jean-Claude Van Johnson' only exist (bizarely enough) *because* of Ridley Scotts involement (not the other way round)

BTW, that car commercial was fake as hell (viral videos like 'CAT FALLS FROM A PIANO' get just as many, if not more internet 'hits'....and are just as equally realistic) the fact that people actually believed that Jean Claude Van Damme was actually doing the splits whilst balancing between two vehicles.....says a lot more about the society we live in....than it does about Van Dammes skillset (and don't get me started on those COORS adverts)

But hey...You say tomato, etc.....So peace be to you, My Brother :)
Loved Van Damme's early movies from Bloodsport right through to Sudden Death.

It was his directorial debut, The Quest, which really catapulted the downfall. It was just awful. Maximum Risk was okay. And then Double Team started the weird period which ran Knock Off, The Order, Desert Heat, Replicant and maybe In Hell.

Wake of Death for me was the last Van Damme movie I genuinely enjoyed and haven't really liked anything since. I keep trying them but after the dreck of Derailed, Second in Command, Until Death, Hard Corps, Kill 'Em All, am starting to give up. The "tortured soul" thing is just getting really boring. He did it in Wake of Death but that at least has decent action and was watchable.

Can't really count Expendables 2 as a Van Damme movie as everybody and his sister was in it. The Kickboxer reboot was rubbish and just made me want to watch the original. And couldn't really care less about adverts and voice-overs in animated features. Did make me laugh though when gullible people thought he really did that truck stunt.

I do like Van Damme as he seems a great guy but my days of enjoying his movies or even being willing to buy the DVDs when they come out are long gone. His latest movies I'm just not going for as I know he's barely in them, or in one, so I heard, he plays a mute so doesn't even speak!

I must be a dedicated Seagal fan for sure as am always more willing to buy his movies when they come out as I still love watching the guy even in the worst of the worst.

On topic, as much as I would love to see Above the Law 2, whoever made it and whichever direction it took, I just can't see it happening. I can't realistically see Under Siege 3 happening now either, but I'd still prefer a Casey Ryback return as it would have more chance of turning a profit and would be a more interesting, action-orientated possibility.