Aikido Interview with Take Sensei 12/09/2002

kokoro

Protector
just for something to post in here, an interview from the Official Site by Jamie Calderon. I just copied and paste, left out the replies, you can guess why. Well, hope you still find it interesting.
Questions were posted by members of the Official Board.

cheers
Rob




J.C
The following is an interview I had with Steven Seagal Sensei pertaining to the questions posted by the members of the Steven Seagal message board.


Q----During seminars and other Aikido demonstrations, Take Sensei always uses guys that are black belts as uke’s (usually his own students from what I have heard). Why is it that he never uses women as uke’s?


SS----Well that’s just not true. I use women all the time, but for demonstrating I use the people who are the most adaptive and the best aikidoist that are there. Whether they are my students or somebody else’s students but I use women all the time.

Q---- I understand there is some philosophy
that is incorporated with Aikido could you please expand just a little on that. I’m new to the art of Aikido and perhaps could you explain a bit on your style.

SS----I recommend to that person to read some of the Aikido books. You know it’s like saying I understand there’s some philosophy to Christianity and to Buddhism. Aikido is all philosophy. And I don’t want to write five or ten chapters on the philosophy of Aikido to substitute as in taking the time to read a book. You know what I mean. Aikido’s basic philosophy is emptiness, learning, mediation on oneness and we demonstrate that through technique and we learn to perfect it through technique by practicing the philosophy. Who ever it is should really take the time to read one of the better books on Aikido.

Q---Take Sensei how much of an influence did Hiroshi Isoyama Shihan have in your aikido training and how much did you train with Isoyama Shihan?

SS---A tremendous influence. I Trained with him many times and have done many teachings and seminars with him. He is one of my best friends and one of O’sensei’s closest disciples and has had a tremendous influence on me. He is my brother, my big brother, my good friend, my sempai, and my teacher.


Q---Can you explain a little bit about your weapons training?

SS---- I mean I’ll say this; I don’t want to get into that too much because I don’t want people chasing the more esoteric sword stuff. I studied several different sword styles, several different masters outside of aikido in Japan. Two in particular and I was able to study them to the point where the teachers of these styles probably gave me their entire kabum. All of their teachings inner outer secrets, and they are tremendously important to aikido and when I find a student or students that are devoted enough and have the understanding, and enough aptitude for those things, I will be very very happy to share those things.

Q----From your training days in Japan to the present day, how much has Aikido changed from what you witnessed and studied compared to what is taught today??
SS----Well, I think since the death of Osensei, many of the original aikidoists shihan are dead, and uh, everybody that studied with osensei had their own interpretation of his technique. Many of them went off in their own directions, and had students who became teachers, who had students who became teachers, who had students who became teachers. And in general when that happens the original essence of the art and its basics, philosophy and technique start to expand in some ways and degenerate and disintegrate in other ways. And that’s what happens.


Q----Do you think Aikido should be taught with the philosophies of O'Sensei intact (by this I mean the ideals of his later years) or should that be left to each individual to pursue, and should just the Martial side of Aikido be focused upon??
SS---I think that O’sensei’s teachings should be protected and intact in every way shape or form. You know the mental, the philosophical, the spiritual and the physical. Uh however, in order for people to understand somebody is going to have to be involved in the study of the spiritual side and many people are not. Even back in the day in my opinion 90% of the people who studied from O’Sensei did not understand a word he was saying about the spiritual side, they didn’t go to the source, they didn’t study, that they just wanted to learn technique.

Q----Does Take sensei recommend kotodama practice for furtherance of technical ability?

SS----Any spiritual practice done correctly will enhance the ability of the individual.


Q----Should the picture of O’sensei not be enshrined. Should that picture of O’sensei not be in the shomein?

SS----I think the picture of O’sensei should be in the shomein but on the side of it. Sure. I think, in my opinion, in my humble opinion the center should be the deity, the gods; the center should not be of O’sensei it should be to the side of the shomein. With O’sensei that’s the way it always was when we was alive and after.

Q---- In conclusion Sir is there anything you would like to say?


SS-----All I want to say is that if the people are practicing Aikido, everybody should understand fundamentally they are practicing to develop the physical technique and perfect their spiritual self simultaneously. And all of this inherently means that we are practicing to get along, and if we can’t embrace and appreciate other people’s views, we can at least learn to tolerate them and it’s my deep wish that people do not engage in any kind of rivalry or fighting on the Internet or any other place.


This concludes my interview with Sensei. Thank you!!!
 

kokoro

Protector
ok, here is a response from Take Sensei to some disscussion carried out on the Official Site.....

Cheers
Rob

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Steven Seagal
Administrator
Posts: 1
From: Los Angeles California
Registered: Jan 2001
posted February 03, 2001 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Turboman:
With all due respect Aikilove, I must disagree. When uke grabs your fist and attacks (with 100% weight towards you, your center) you should FEEL this and NOT with your mind and thinking, "hey let's do a kote geashi". This might work to some extent, but it is not Ueshiba aikido. When you feel where the attacker (uke) goes towards you, you move with him (or her) and you might use any technique which your body (after lots of training) decides to use at that time, in which the whole just merely becomes a MOVEMENT, and the technique is a PART of that movement. When you ask someone who doesn't know a thing about aikido, if he witnessed the technique, he probably would reply, "what technique?, I only saw two people move!"
Mr. Seagal: THIS is a very important subject. What do you think of this?

Thanx.


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Thank you for your interest and questions.

In answer to your Question, (if I understand it correctly), there are several different scenarios. In general it depends on the attack, i.e., if the attacker is flying at you quite rapidly as opposed being more stationary.

In my opinion, if the attacker is coming in rapidly, it is easier (and more appropriate) to use his movement and keep him moving into a position of his own neutralization. If he is mostly stationary, you (meaning ”Tori”) must move in and would have to do more of the “moving”.

In a more perfect world the attacker enters and the “Tori” uses the “Uke’s” mind and body momentum in order to enhance the timing, space, and place of least resistance.

This is, I think, what you are seeing most of the time in my films with particular respect to the “Kotegieshi”.

I hope this sheds some light on the subject.

Thank you-

In Oneness,

S.S.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Sigh...He's a most beautiful man, and it shows through...
Thank you sooo much, kokoro...;) And Take' Sensei, I adore you...
 

tora

Funmaker
Ah...He's so wise and I seem to be so stupid...What am I gonna talk to him about?Tibetan pyramids?Rock'n'roll?
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Tora, I would say a normal conversation & if you are in knowledge or interest of BUddhism or Aikido then you would mention things like that.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Yeah Tora,
There is plenty to talk about...Buddhism, martial arts, movies, music...And since there are things you probably wanna know, you can ask..And if it's too personal, just let it drop...I hope we can both meet him someday...That would be lovely...:)
 

tora

Funmaker
Well,I'm starting to plan a list of the things I'd like to talk to him about...and gotta read some more books not to seem so ignorant.Aikido is probably my weakest part.
 

Baseball Lady

New Member
Tora,

The key to meeting anyone famous or not is to just be yourself!
Real people like you for what you are, not what you think they want you to be:cool:

BB Lady
 

tora

Funmaker
Oh thank you so much for your support.Now I do feel better.I could learn a lot from Steven and I'm not afraid to ask if I don't know.
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Some say Kotodama is dangerous technique.
(if you don't pay for it, it could be...LOL...)

Please, you don't have to be something special to use these mantras!
Anybody can use them!

It is my experience the use of Kotodama is the same thing as using
Reiki symbols, as far as healing aspect of it goes (more or less).
Please, do try it for yourself.

Kotodama is a mental technique which connects you to the source of Reiki.
It is very simple and as effective as the use of symbols or even more (it is said).

They work as a mantras and I believe this approach to mental and emotional control
has its roots in the same place as all other mantras do - in Buddhism,
Shinto, Hinduism etc...
It is said Usui used this technique. He introduced
symbols only to those in "need" of them.

As I've already said, I don't use this technique often.
I tried it but found it very similar
or even the same as repeating the names of the symbols.
I kindda like it though, since I am used to do Nama Japa a lot.
But, I prefer to use (to me) more powerful and effective mantras, like
 

kokoro

Protector
Originally posted by Lotussan


BTW, what is kotodama? Anyone? :confused:


I was taught that Kotodama is Word Spirit.

From the book Budo, by O'Sensei, the translator describes kotodama as this:

"kotodama: the esoteric science of "sound-spirit". Kotodama are the pure sounds that crystallize as vibrations of various concentrations which are then perceived as sound, color, and form. Every principle and technique has a kotodama, a sacred vibration that contains its essence; if one understands the significance of the kotodama, one can grasp its function (i.e, water) and merge with its spirit (i.e, fire)"

From the book, Abundant Peace, by John Stevens:

"Morihei generally elaborated his system in terms of kotodama, the science of "sound-spirit". Kotodama theory was at the heart of Shinto revival, based on the supposedly pure sounds of the unique japanese language. In fact, the concept of kotodama orignates in the tantric sphota-vada system of ancient India which was carried to Japan by the Buddhist patriarch Kukai in the ninth century as shingon, "true sounds".

The Supreme Word (skt. sabda brahman, Jap. su) is the innermost core of being. In Christian theology this is expressed as "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God". From that Word Supreme, fifty pure sounds (Skt. varna, Jap. koto) sprang forth (Skt. sphota, Jap. musubu), crystallizing as vibrations (Skt. nada, Jap. hibiki) of various concentrations that are perceived as sound, color, and form----that is, the phenomenal world. Those sound-spirits, imbued with cosmic energy (Skt. shakti, prana, Jap. ki, kokyu), activate and sustain creation.

The tantric concept of the universe being composed of sound-energy formed the basis of Hindu and Buddhist mantrayana and Japanese Shinto kotodama theory; kotodama was in turn further modified by Onisaburo in his Omoto-kyo teachings and then adopted by Morihei for Aikido.

In Aikido kotodama theory, the universe is said to have originated from an incomprehensibly dense point, represented by the ultraconcentrated vibration, su. Aeons ago, steam, smoke and mist emanated from that point, enveloping it in a nebulous sphere. From su, the primordial kotodama point, the sound of cosmic inhalation, energy-sound-breath, simultaneously spiraled forth. Su extended circularly into the sounds u-u-u-yu-mu and also expanded vertically into the sounds a-o-u-e-i. The tension between these sounds gave birth to spirit-matter, fire-water, yin-yang, and further evolved into the seventy-five kotodama that maintain existence.
This cosmology-----strikingly similar to the Big Bang theory currently favoured by physicists---was further detailed by Morihei as" One source, four spirits, three elements, and eight powers' (ichirei-shikon-sangen-hachiriki). "One source" is the single point su, referred to above, and the other elements can be diagramed as follows:

Four Spirits
1. Kusu-mitama: heaven, wisdom, light, principle
2. Ara-mitama: fire, valor, progress, completion
3. Nigi-mitama: water, fidelity, harmony, propriety
4. Sachi-mitama: earth, love, compassion, cherishing

Three Elements
1. Iku-musubi: harmonazation, vapor, fluidity; represented by a triangle
2. Tara-musubi: inhalation, liquid, unification; represented by a circle
3. Tamatsume-musubi: exhalation, solid, solidity; represented by a square

Eight powers
1. Movement
2. Calm
3. Solidification
4. Release
5. Extension
6. Retraction
7. Unification
8. Division


Hope this gives you a slight insight to what kotodama is Lotus, and how it is percieved/developed in Aikido.

In
Heart, Mind & Spirit
 

tora

Funmaker
Originally posted by Lotussan
Thanks Amos...:)
Btw all, SS seems like a very down to earth guy from the interviews...
Isn't it just fine?He's not trying to seem too intricate...He's just who he is, simple and gorgeous.
 
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