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Jalu

Steve's Destiny
Enlightenment - What It Is and What It Isn't
With everything that’s been written about enlightenment, have you ever wondered what it would be like to know someone who is enlightened and living in the real world? Typical portrayals of enlightenment describe an otherworldish sort of character who turns heads everywhere he or she goes. Everyone would immediately notice the great profundity, serenity, and light radiating from the enlightened individual. Every utterance would be pearls of wisdom. Each glance would melt even the coldest of hearts.

Another curiosity about the state of enlightenment involves the notion of subtle or clairvoyant sight. It is sometimes considered to be analogous to a Fruit Loops cereal box or Juicy Fruit gum commercial with bright lights shooting through the room and hovering around people’s heads. Such a psychotic state can be and has been imposed upon people’s physiologies in the name of attaining enlightenment. This is horribly unfortunate. Even more regrettable is that once it is achieved, those individuals often start “healing schools” where they impose the same psychotic state upon their students. This, of course, takes the student further away from the attainment of enlightenment. True subtle sight is something very different. First of all, as the word describes, by its very nature the experience is subtle. It is not otherworldish or bizarre, though when experienced in its early stages, it does, for awhile, seem to be dramatic. But after a short time, it is completely natural and any drama is fully attributable to the fact that it was something new.

Preconceived notions about what enlightenment is like are as abundant as they are absurd. They include the idea that an enlightened person never gets angry, would never need glasses, never gets sick, never feels lonely or sad, and could even perform miracles. Let's for a moment dismiss all such notions as prerequisites to enlightenment. Consider the idea that it may be impossible to determine whether or not another person is enlightened. Let's assume that an enlightened individual can behave and appear as ordinary as you or I.

Here, another problem immediately arises: if enlightenment is that "normal," then what good is it? The point is that the state of enlightenment involves wakefulness on profoundly deep levels of being where individual awareness is commonly dormant. It is a level that lies beyond thoughts, emotions, and the physical body. Many may ask with all sincerity, "But what else is there besides thoughts, emotions, and the physical body?" What lies beyond is the grandeur, the true greatness of who it is and what it is we are. What is remarkable is not the state of enlightenment. What is remarkable is that so many people live their life unaware of that level of life.

Scientists theorize that the human mind is a quantum mechanical computer capable of maintaining awareness of the underlying basis of the entire universe which is the field of unfettered, unbounded consciousness - what modern physicists refer to as the Unified Field. When an individual's consciousness has become distracted or preoccupied by programmed modes of function, deeper awareness is obstructed. The state of enlightenment is quite simply a state of physiology when those cobwebs and distractions are sufficiently cleared so that the awareness can function naturally. That is to say, beyond the limitations of conditioned programming. This is an entirely physiological process. Enlightenment, then, can simply be thought of as normal life. Unfortunately, it's not ordinary, but it is the normal, healthy function of human awareness.

It has been said that the attainment of enlightenment is as elusive as traversing the razor's edge or moving through the eye of the needle. This speaks to the power our conditioned beliefs, thoughts, and emotional states have over us. By and large, we function of, by, for, and through those conditionings. The entire process is completely circular. Any knowledge we acquire is assimilated in terms of that conditioning. Anything that reinforces the conditioning is embraced; anything that questions it is rejected.

We live in a cognitively and behaviorally oriented society. Our approaches to spiritual growth, psychological health, and all fields of life are reduced to those orientations. If we have an intellectual understanding of something and if we behave in accordance with our idealized guidelines about that something, then we believe we are that something. If we read all about enlightenment, come to know everything that is said about it, and if we behave in a manner consistent with those beliefs, we have a tendency to believe we're actually enlightened. However, if you dress a pauper up to look like a king, he is still a pauper. There is a huge difference between knowing about and mimicking versus actually embodying enlightenment.

The methodology of the actual attainment of that state of awareness has essentially been lost to time. Esoteric teachings, meditation techniques, and spiritual practices, by and large, impose and reinforce a conditioned state of function. In contrast, enlightenment, i.e., spiritual liberation, is the state of liberation from all such conditioning. The art of facilitation of the cultivation of enlightenment is indeed as subtle and elusive as the nature of life itself. Though it can be understood as the state of freedom from conditioning, it must not be confused with an attitude of anarchy. The enlightened still function through conditioned precepts, but simultaneously see beyond those limitations. As it has been said, the trick is to have the boat in the water, but not have the water in the boat.

I heard about a rather heartless, but revealing study done at M.I.T. From birth, kittens were placed in a room painted with all horizontal lines. After several weeks, they were placed in a room with vertical lines. The kittens immediately flipped on their sides. Their awareness was conditioned to view the world only a certain way. The challenge is to ask yourself, "How is it that your awareness has been conditioned? How many of your emotional responses are conditioned responses? How much of your intellectual understanding of the world is simply conditioned? How much of what you believe to be your perception is, in actuality, your projection?"

Sometimes the notion of enlightenment is viewed as simply a state of "letting go and letting God." That's much easier said than done. It generally amounts to nothing other than holding onto the notion of letting go. Sometimes enlightenment is thought of as a state of nonattachment and freedom from desire. People then attempt to attain enlightenment by being attached to nothing and having no desires. They are sadly mistaken. The state of enlightenment has much more to do with awakening to a particular deep level of your being that is unattached and free from desire. It has nothing to do with the attempt to convince yourself on a personality level that you have no desires and are unattached. In the state of enlightenment, on the personality level, individuals can still prefer chocolate ice-cream to vanilla and still feel attached to their loved ones. They are simply awake to deeper levels of their being where they are eternally one with, and therefore not separate from, anyone or anything. On that level then, it is impossible to desire anything because you already have it. In fact, you already are it.

Throughout history, there have been some saints who behave in a fully unattached manner on the personality level of their being. Their devotees had to hit them with sticks so they wouldn't wander off into the jungle. They had to be force fed because they were "free from all desire," even the desire for food and sustenance. Let's assume for a moment they were awake at the deepest level of their being. Even if that were the case, they were still functioning in an unintegrated manner. Their personality was not functioning in a healthy way. They were living a dissociative state. Since they were, perhaps, awake to that deepest level of their being, one may choose to call them enlightened. Because the state is so unhealthy and unnatural, I prefer not to refer to it as enlightenment. But this is a matter of semantics. If someone were to insist these saints were enlightened because they were awake to that deepest level, I would offer no strong objection. What is most important to me is that the bigger picture is understood. A healthy state of enlightenment is an integrated state where people are awake to the deepest levels of existence, yet concurrently function quite naturally and appear perfectly normal around other people.

Some feel that dwelling within them is a black, damp, cavernous, bottomless void into which they could fall. They live their life clinging to, and identified with, their conditioned state as the only thing that keeps them safe and happy. The last thing they want to do is let go of that conditioning. Some of them believe that conditioning is the very thing that would enlighten them if only it could become more fully embraced and strengthened within them. The truth is entirely the opposite. It is not that a person has to abandon one's own philosophies and beliefs, but at the same time, it is true that one must become free of the grip those philosophies and beliefs have over oneself. When that occurs, there is no longer any need to cling. The black void within is then understood to be a cosmic cushion, upon which the psyche can rest.
 

Wayne

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All things evolve. The spiritual leaders known in the world today are all evolving and at different levels of consciousness. As long as they, like every other human being continue to find the Source and return the self/Self and all that it creates and expands into, back to that Source of which it comes from, the slate remains clean and innocent for recieving greater experience and delivering it into form. But as long as one claims position to a certain experience the evolutionary process of that individual stagnates until the point of surrender returns. Some spiritual leaders point to such a place and lead people there in their teachings, others prefer to expand upon the "concept" for an eternal entertainment value. A huge variety of perspectives available to one who wishes to study the infinite and dabble in spiritual awakenings, would you agree? Even a few paths to lead one to full human consciousness available as well.

Many in the world are fascinated today with the concept of enlightenment. Remember the days when the talk of it was taboo? Remember the days when a small few would speak of metaphysical teachings and hide their true spiritual natures? Nowadays, its the average conversation in every coffee shop around the world.

I think some get the idea that in surrendering all back to the Ascendant one ignores the manifest as an illusion.
It is true that beliefs in reality are illusions but also the manifest is real enough to those that are in it.
What to do when you are in it but not of it?
Live your life and take the truth into it at all times.
This means you get the benefits of enjoying your life without being attached to any of it.

It is our attachment to the ego that keeps us trapped in the world of illusion, in samsara (which means literally, "perpetual succession" or "eternal cycle:" we rise up only to fall again, over and over again forever until the endless circle is Ascended). Since this structure is an illusion, everyone on the deepest level fundamentally desires to Ascend this artificial construct. In order for this to happen, the limited ego of the waking state must die.

This process, if not properly understood, can be extraordinarily painful. Without vitally needed knowledge, many decide at this point to abandon their quest for enlightenment. In extreme cases, the intense feeling of emptiness as the old behavior patterns fall away can actually lead to attempted suicide. These death-desiring impulses are signs from our higher Self that the old attitudes standing in our way must end. Mastering this process is an act of purest courage. The renunciation of the sense-oriented life of the lower self is horrifying to the ego; the subsequent birth to enlightenment is inconceivable and impossible from the perspective of the illusory structure of mind-created boundaries that is the ego.


I think most get discouraged because they still feel the same things they felt before enlightenment; remember the saying "Before enlightenment, chop wood carry water, after enlightenment, chop wood carry water"

The bliss of the promised enlightened sage is real enough but it comes with the letting go of all boundaries of the mind.
There is no way to escape the karma of the manifest other than through the mind in the exalted realms or by mastering the creation, however if firmly established in Union one struggles less with the ideas that anything is permanent or real. Choice is still an integral and important part of our awareness for the feelings that enter our awareness have a tendency to pull at the same places they did before our expanded awareness.

Compassion:

Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion, looked down from the peaceful celestial realms upon the suffering and confusion in the worlds of illusion. He was filled with such intense compassion that his thoughts, desiring the liberation of all beings, expanded his head into a thousand heads. From his body sprang a thousand helping hands. In each palm an eye appeared.

Our compassion for human experience is part of what drives us forward. If there was no end result in the process of Ascension there would be no incentive to do anything.
The only difficulty arises when the mind latches onto lesser desires of the world as the goal, rather than the focus of pure surrender to God as the essence of ourselves, our creation and the mastery of creation, rather than the ideals we place within creation through the thoughts that are contained within the creation.

Constant surrender of all desires does not mean you can't have a desire, the mind that is surrendered is surrendered to divine will and that will shall serve the creation.

If you entertain any idea of what that is supposed to look like then it all returns to the painful contraction of trying to route the manifest back onto the illusory track.

In the expansion of exalted consciousness the awareness of the construct naturally expands leading the mind to seek through the heart, more of what you and creation are in the relationship of the manifest and the unmanifest.
If it were not relevant the history of enlightenment would not have been cognized, nor the many descriptions of enlightenment.
To Cognize is to surrender the heart to the Holy Spirit as it guides one to expansion of both knowledge and experience of reality. This information is for all humanity not just the self gratification of the individual.

Often from the lesser mind these things can seem unimportant for they do not give one the experience of freedom but only give more information so when added to the rest only gives the mind more to think about.
But in truth everything that comes to you is for your expansion and growth. It is very important to keep it all in perspective.
Even Christ in his moments of contemplation at Gethsemane entertained the necessity of the action that would follow his upcoming arrest and betrayal.
The contemplation was initiated by the desire to expand what he already knew, to give it a presence in the reality of the creation.
We do this for ourselves, all of the fragmented aspects of ourselves in our creation, to bind it together in awareness of our manifest creation. This is an act of surrender that is not blind but awakened to its impulse of intent moved thru the Ascendant.

This is normal in our evolution of consciousness. There is a desire to know more of ourselves and as we surrender all thoughts feelings and actions back to the ascendant more will automatically come.
If you were to go into a library and read one book you would have to put one down to read the next.
Certain information must precede the experience to give meaning to the expansion process or there would be only blind movement thru a never ending process towards an imagined or unknown goal.

It's important to not get caught anywhere in the process of expansion.

If you are traveling the path to the goal there are many things along the way that are fascinating and entertaining, as long as we remember to keep the goal of Self awareness in our awareness the entertainment won't become a distraction.

As long as we are travelling the road of enlightenment it is good to be wise about what we choose to incorporate into the journey.

It is said that one can gain much along the path of enlightenment by reading scripture or the works of the enlightened, surrounding yourself with enlightened reflection and to meditate on the Om, to know the Self.

Namaste,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"
 
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