Practicing Aikido, Hapkido, kung fu, etc. at home?

TGR74

New Member
If you have limited time Zen try to get som PRIVATE lessons from an instructor so he can guide you. You can schedule them easier. I recommend them for whatever style you chose. It may cost more but the individual instruction and attention is extremely helpful..especially for a situation such as yours.
 

yudansha

TheGreatOne
Yes ... that's the best situation to train in!

However, lessons in martial arts like that could get very expansive. So, beware.

The private training for my weightlifting in the gym and bodybuilding/body conditioning costs $75 for a 45 minute session for beginners and at start ... and for more advanced training, the costs run above $100 for half an hour session. It's costly, and I'd think that private martial arts training would be more so.
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
What you are forgetting however is that 100% of those 95% of fights are between those who think they can fight and apply their "Rocky" techniques to street fighting ... what you see is people trying to punch each other, they miss, and so they are angered and start grappling ... or attempting to at least.


Nope, how many street fights have you seen? This is how it goes one guy gets rocked by a punch fall to the ground and the other guy gets on top of him either kicking or punching him.


I have watched HARDCORE street fights and every single one of them ended up on the ground. It is no point to argue if it is FACT, just see for yourself.
 

tenshinaikidoka

Martial Art Student
Again, we are watching video and not seeing reality. Anything where there is a fight, and there is video, is not a true street fight. There are rules, of some sort so that no one gets killed. A street fight there are no rules. Plain and simple. Unless the video you have seen is from some secret recording device catching an actual street fight occuring, I have a hard time beleiving that it is a true "street" fight!!

No offense little, but I think age is a factor here.
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
tenshinaikidoka said:
Again, we are watching video and not seeing reality. Anything where there is a fight, and there is video, is not a true street fight. There are rules, of some sort so that no one gets killed. A street fight there are no rules. Plain and simple. Unless the video you have seen is from some secret recording device catching an actual street fight occuring, I have a hard time beleiving that it is a true "street" fight!!

No offense little, but I think age is a factor here.




YES YES thats what it is!

Its like real tv when citizens record something occuring thats what happened with the street fights. Exactly what that was, hard core street fights.
 

michaem

New Member
Yes it is possible to trian to some degree at home. Remember that with only the slightist knowledge of any martial art you can teach yourself different moves. Bruce lee said that no form is a true form. Understand that any Martial Art would have been invented by one person on a trail and error basis. Watch films ,read books learn there moves if you get it wrong you will soon know in a fight then you can re think the move. If you have natural fighting abilities you will develop your own fighting skill. Find yourself and what works for you learn to take fear from a confrontation breath well and remember dont roll around on the floor. When you can reach a piont where you no longer fear fear you gain confidence that will make you truley great.
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
michaem said:
Yes it is possible to trian to some degree at home. Remember that with only the slightist knowledge of any martial art you can teach yourself different moves. Bruce lee said that no form is a true form. Understand that any Martial Art would have been invented by one person on a trail and error basis. Watch films ,read books learn there moves if you get it wrong you will soon know in a fight then you can re think the move. If you have natural fighting abilities you will develop your own fighting skill. Find yourself and what works for you learn to take fear from a confrontation breath well and remember dont roll around on the floor. When you can reach a piont where you no longer fear fear you gain confidence that will make you truley great.


I totally agree with you!

Welcome to the site!

No one style has it all.
 

Leon

Banned
Hi there guys and gals!
I'm a big SS fan and I regularly visit discussion forums but I rarely post anything. This thread has immediately caught my attention because it mentions Hapkido, which I practice in my home town of Bucharest, Romania. My Shihan, who happens to have 4 Dans in Hapkido and 1 in Aikido just to mention a few, says that the kind of fighting style that SS uses in his movies is a heckuva lot more like Hapkido, than it is Aikido. That is because most of the blocks, kicks, chokes etc he uses in short and medium distances do not exist in Aikido. Now, of course, as a real Master, Mr Seagal doesn't let everything he knows show on screen, but the little that he does points to something much more sophisticated than Aikido. I'm curious if anyone else, who practices hapkido or some other military-type martial art, has noticed this and I'd be really interested in your opinions.
Thanx in advance!
 

Serena

Administrator
Hi, Leon. :) I'm sorry, but while I know nothing of martial arts, there are other members who very active and will eventually respond to your post. I just wanted to welcome you to the site. I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself here. :)
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
Leon said:
Hi there guys and gals!
I'm a big SS fan and I regularly visit discussion forums but I rarely post anything. This thread has immediately caught my attention because it mentions Hapkido, which I practice in my home town of Bucharest, Romania. My Shihan, who happens to have 4 Dans in Hapkido and 1 in Aikido just to mention a few, says that the kind of fighting style that SS uses in his movies is a heckuva lot more like Hapkido, than it is Aikido. That is because most of the blocks, kicks, chokes etc he uses in short and medium distances do not exist in Aikido. Now, of course, as a real Master, Mr Seagal doesn't let everything he knows show on screen, but the little that he does points to something much more sophisticated than Aikido. I'm curious if anyone else, who practices hapkido or some other military-type martial art, has noticed this and I'd be really interested in your opinions.
Thanx in advance!


Actually Hapkido took the kicks from Tae Kyon and Tang So Doo as well as the joint locks and throws of Judo, Aiki-Ju-Jitsu and Aikido. I don't believe the majority of Seagal's fights are using Hapkido. Yes in films Martial Artists tend to incoporate other styles but the chokes he uses are Judo/Jiu-Jitsu chokes, and the irmi's and kotegaeshi's are all Aikido. Maybe he using some Hapkido techniques but in a film I don't think his intention for a fight scene would be, this fight scene will be a "HAPKIDO Scene." ;)
 

pantera

New Member
Hi leon and welcome to the site

michaem said:
Yes it is possible to trian to some degree at home. Remember that with only the slightist knowledge of any martial art you can teach yourself different moves. Bruce lee said that no form is a true form. Understand that any Martial Art would have been invented by one person on a trail and error basis. Watch films ,read books learn there moves if you get it wrong you will soon know in a fight then you can re think the move. If you have natural fighting abilities you will develop your own fighting skill. Find yourself and what works for you learn to take fear from a confrontation breath well and remember dont roll around on the floor. When you can reach a piont where you no longer fear fear you gain confidence that will make you truley great.
I agree with you. As soon as i have my own place and enough money, i'll buy some judo mats to train at home what i've learnt at my lessons. But also to try stuff i find in books and on videotape.
I dream having my small private dojo home to train anytime i want and also to learn to meditate. The time will come!
 

Leon

Banned
Littledragon said:
Actually Hapkido took the kicks from Tae Kyon and Tang So Doo as well as the joint locks and throws of Judo, Aiki-Ju-Jitsu and Aikido. I don't believe the majority of Seagal's fights are using Hapkido. Yes in films Martial Artists tend to incoporate other styles but the chokes he uses are Judo/Jiu-Jitsu chokes, and the irmi's and kotegaeshi's are all Aikido. Maybe he using some Hapkido techniques but in a film I don't think his intention for a fight scene would be, this fight scene will be a "HAPKIDO Scene." ;)

You're absolutely right about the influence of Tae Kyon (old form of TKD) and Aiki-Ju-Jutsu, but Hapkido borrows NOTHING from Aikido. Some moves, while appearing similar which is inevitable, are essentially different. Grand Master Choi-Yong-Sul, who founded Hapkido, was a teacher of Takeda Sokaku, the "patriarch" of DAITO-Ryu-Aikijujutsu. Combine that with TKD and you've got yourself Hap-ki-do which also cotains an extensive array of knife, short & long stick techniques that SS seems to be very comfortable with, as well. :D
 

Aikilove

Old member aikidoka
Pardon me Leon but if anything, Sokaku Takeda was the teacher of Shoi Yong Sul not the other way around! And there are actually quite a number of historicans that deny that Shoi was actually taught anything by S Takeda. But that is a whole different can of worms.
It is movies and therefor movie fu! Sure he naturally moves according to his aikido training, but it is still movie fu.

For the record and for future references Steven Seagal stated more than once:
I don't make martial arts films, I make films that have martial arts in them.
He also said,
I have never made an Aikido film.


So you see the only way to know what Steven is teaching and training is to actually train with him!

/J
 

Leon

Banned
lol! My bad, of course I meant "a student" of Takeda Sokaku, I don't know where my mind was, thanx for clearing that up anyway and YES, it is a different can of worms! :)
 

manoffaith77

New Member
Its is possable

It is hard but not impossable to practice and learn the art of Hapkido at home yourself. I suggest getting as many books on korean arts as you can study from. Many of these are integrated into Hapkido. What you can do is try to go to as many Korean Schools as possable and take thier trial classes which usually last a week. There you can get an instructors instruction on basics and go from there. The important hing in training this way is to learn the principals of the techniques. There you can take these principals and apply them into the things you are learning from the books. Also invest in some videos. This way you can see the correct technique and compare what you are doing with that. There will be much you cant learn but much you can as well. However, there is nothing like training under a qualified instructor of the art. As for the Art of Aikido, I think that would be virtually impossable as you need a Uke and Nage for almost everything.

Jason
 
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