The Martial Responsibility...

[Littledragon]

As martial artists we are capable of defending our self with our years of knowledgeable training in the art of self-defense. Martial arts teaches one self-defense, self confidence, discipline, etc... Most can argue martial arts is a way of life and every thing we do is martial arts.

As a martial artist we carry many responsibilitie, we carry the burdon that we have such great hand to hand combat skills they must be restrained in certain situations.

Here is the big question is it a martial artists responsibility to come to the aid of one who is in trouble? If you see a women being raped or a robber with a knife in a store or an old lady being mugged is it the martial artists responsibility to come to their aid?

What is your opinion?

 

[Serena]

As martial artists we are capable of defending our self with our years of knowledgeable training in the art of self-defense. Martial arts teaches one self-defense, self confidence, discipline, etc... Most can argue martial arts is a way of life and every thing we do is martial arts.

As a martial artist we carry many responsibilitie, we carry the burdon that we have such great hand to hand combat skills they must be restrained in certain situations.

Here is the big question is it a martial artists responsibility to come to the aid of one who is in trouble? If you see a women being raped or a robber with a knife in a store or an old lady being mugged is it the martial artists responsibility to come to their aid?

What is your opinion?

I may not know anything about martial arts, but it's EVERYONE'S responsibility to come to the aid of someone in distress. Not necessarily physically, which may not even be a wise move and may jeopardize the person involved, but at least a phone call, yelling for help, some kind of distraction is an absolute must!

 

[Littledragon]

I may not know anything about martial arts, but it's EVERYONE'S responsibility to come to the aid of someone in distress. Not necessarily physically, which may not even be a wise move and may jeopardize the person involved, but at least a phone call, yelling for help, some kind of distraction is an absolute must!

Yes thats very. But to the martial artists in perticularlly would you physically come to the aid is what I am really trying to get at.

 

[Lotussan]

True, we can't ignore someone who's being brutalized, we must take reasonable steps
to help in a crisis...Even if it's only making a commotion, even that would help to scare
a mugger away...I can see just Serena beating them off with a big stick, though or in
her case a crutch...
It's sad that most might ignore it, just put yourself in their shoes, I guess and how could you not try to help...
Of course sometimes people get downright nasty at others getting involved in their business, but when it's a beating or a mugging I doubt they would mind...
I know I'd be so greatful if it were me, I would truly be indebted to them...

 

[Serena]

Yes thats very. But to the martial artists in perticularlly would you physically come to the aid is what I am really trying to get at.

Gotcha, Littledragon!
Sorry about that.

 

[Littledragon]

Gotcha, Littledragon!
Sorry about that.

No problemo Super Serena.

 

[Serena]

True, we can't ignore someone who's being brutalized, we must take reasonable steps
to help in a crisis...Even if it's only making a commotion, even that would help to scare
a mugger away...I can see just Serena beating them off with a big stick, though or in
her case a crutch...
It's sad that most might ignore it, just put yourself in their shoes, I guess and how could you not try to help...
Of course sometimes people get downright nasty at others getting involved in their business, but when it's a beating or a mugging I doubt they would mind...
I know I'd be so greatful if it were me, I would truly be indebted to them...

You know, I'm not so sure, Lotus. I was held up at gunpoint years ago, with the gun in my face one inch away from my nose. I didn't do anything but put my hands in the air until he left. And I'm not so sure in that case that I would want a martial artist, or anyone else, physically trying to rescue me--at least in my particular circumstance.

I'm curious, Littledragon. With your exerpertise in martial arts, what do you think you might have done if you had been there with me?

 

[Littledragon]

You know, I'm not so sure, Lotus. I was held up at gunpoint years ago, with the gun in my face one inch away from my nose. I didn't do anything but put my hands in the air until he left. And I'm not so sure in that case that I would want a martial artist, or anyone else, physically trying to rescue me--at least in my particular circumstance.

I'm curious, Littledragon. With your exerpertise in martial arts, what do you think you might have done if you had been there with me?

Well at gunpoint if it is close range any experienced martial artist could take the gun away and defend yourself from that posistion, if it is far range just cooperate with the person and say I will give you anything you want.

But if I was next to you putting my hands up as well I would take him out.

 

[Serena]

Well at gunpoint if it is close range any experienced martial artist could take the gun away and defend yourself from that posistion, if it is far range just cooperate with the person and say I will give you anything you want.

But if I was next to you putting my hands up as well I would take him out.

Thanks, Littledragon.
I respect that.
And good to know!

 

[Littledragon]

Thanks, Littledragon.
I respect that.
And good to know!

Or I could first offer him my money and say I have so much more in my credit card, do you prefer plastic? And you know the rest...

lol

 

[Amos Stevens]

Well as it has already been said-it is everyones responsibility to try to step in & help someone in need. An martial artist or boxer however can actually be charged with use of a deadly weapon :O

 

[Littledragon]

Well as it has already been said-it is everyones responsibility to try to step in & help someone in need. An martial artist or boxer however can actually be charged with use of a deadly weapon :O

If abused but for self-defense...

 

[yudansha]

Easier said than done buddy! Experience is the key ... and obviously only a few have.

Littledragon lol ... if you were held at gun point by a guy who's over 6 feet tall and weighing at 200lbs. pointing an AK47 at you ear, I don't think your mind would be set on what technique you'd use and apply in order to get rid of the threat. This is just so funny, there so many so called 'tough guys' out there, but when a real situation comes up, they get whipped like they did by their mammas when trying to steal a fresh baked biscuit before having the main meal.

Only to those who make martial arts their way of life. And I mean 'LIFE' is when such people have the inner knowledge and a peace of mind that they'd be able to deal with such situations. People who devote every second of their time to training in the arts and the rest in spiritual guidance ... only such would prepare a martial artist to handle one with the gun in their face.

Easier said than done. Actions speak louder than words. ... whatever other things you can think of ...

That squeeze of a trigger will come faster than you can blink. ... and you can take that to the bank.

Police officers do not get trained on how to take a gun away from a suspect who's holding it to their face up close ... the training consists of learning how to 'co-operate' ... higher special forces get taught 'mind games' and the psychology of a typical assailant.

If a citizen is a bystander in a crime, they could very well be charged for obstruction of justice ... sort of like being charged as an accomplice. It is the citizen's responsibility to try anything they can to aid with the situation and try to get help. It is their lawful duty as a citizen.

Also however, in cases where CPR might be required: if you are not officially certified in CPR and/or first-aid, but perform or attempt to 'save' someone's life and in the end the victim dies, then the person who performed the 'life-saving' techniques could be charged with murder for performing such techniques in an inappropriate manner (no matter if witnesses were present).

A typical martial artist has a mentality that they are invincible for some odd reason, and would certainly go and physically help a person who is in trouble. However, when it comes to firearms ... that's when it almost always gets ugly and that same martial artist ends up in the custody of the attacker. It is of no use to try and apprehend the suspect if you are not lawfully permitted to do so in cases when firearms are involved. Some may try to reason, but I mean if you're not a negotiator, that's always discouraged really could also add more harm than good.

I personally would try to handle every situation where no firepower is involved, and would take other measures in other cases. However, it is my training that allows me to do so, and that's why I'd do it.

 

[Littledragon]

Littledragon lol ... if you were held at gun point by a guy who's over 6 feet tall and weighing at 200lbs. pointing an AK47 at you ear, I don't think your mind would be set on what technique you'd use and apply in order to get rid of the threat. This is just so funny, there so many so called 'tough guys' out there, but when a real situation comes up, they get whipped like they did by their mammas when trying to steal a fresh baked biscuit before having the main meal.

Only to those who make martial arts their way of life. And I mean 'LIFE' is when such people have the inner knowledge and a peace of mind that they'd be able to deal with such situations. People who devote every second of their time to training in the arts and the rest in spiritual guidance ... only such would prepare a martial artist to handle one with the gun in their face.

Easier said than done. Actions speak louder than words. ... whatever other things you can think of ...

That squeeze of a trigger will come faster than you can blink. ... and you can take that to the bank.

Police officers do not get trained on how to take a gun away from a suspect who's holding it to their face up close ... the training consists of learning how to 'co-operate' ... higher special forces get taught 'mind games' and the psychology of a typical assailant.

If a citizen is a bystander in a crime, they could very well be charged for obstruction of justice ... sort of like being charged as an accomplice. It is the citizen's responsibility to try anything they can to aid with the situation and try to get help. It is their lawful duty as a citizen.

Also however, in cases where CPR might be required: if you are not officially certified in CPR and/or first-aid, but perform or attempt to 'save' someone's life and in the end the victim dies, then the person who performed the 'life-saving' techniques could be charged with murder for performing such techniques in an inappropriate manner (no matter if witnesses were present).

A typical martial artist has a mentality that they are invincible for some odd reason, and would certainly go and physically help a person who is in trouble. However, when it comes to firearms ... that's when it almost always gets ugly and that same martial artist ends up in the custody of the attacker. It is of no use to try and apprehend the suspect if you are not lawfully permitted to do so in cases when firearms are involved. Some may try to reason, but I mean if you're not a negotiator, that's always discouraged really could also add more harm than good.

I personally would try to handle every situation where no firepower is involved, and would take other measures in other cases. However, it is my training that allows me to do so, and that's why I'd do it.

Well it is highly unlikely to be in a situation when there is an AK47 in your ear unless you are in war or something lol. But you are right I would not be thinking of what technique I would be using, I would just use my natural instincts and deflect it.

 

[Bushido]

I don't know if it is a martial artist responciblity to get physically invalved or not. But I know if I were to see a woman being raped there would be nothing but how badly I was going to maim that guy's ass going through my mind, gun or no gun. Yeah, I get into the whole "Batman" thing fighting crime and evildos as the opertuneities come up. So all you would be attackers out there just remember, if I see you I'll be all over you like stink on sh*t!

 

[Littledragon]

I don't know if it is a martial artist responciblity to get physically invalved or not. But I know if I were to see a woman being raped there would be nothing but how badly I was going to maim that guy's ass going through my mind, gun or no gun. Yeah, I get into the whole "Batman" thing fighting crime and evildos as the opertuneities come up. So all you would be attackers out there just remember, if I see you I'll be all over you like stink on sh*t!

Man we think alike on this subject. We deserve to be great friends now!! LOL

 

[yudansha]

What do you think this is? ...

"I would just use my natural instincts and deflect it"

Deflect what? A bullet going through you skull? You really think you can dodge a bullet? LOL buddy this ain't Matrix no matter how hard you want to believe that.

 

[Bushido]

or is it...

 

[Bushido]

As everyone can see I'm not Neo, however I'd stomp you just the same!

LOL!!!

 

[yudansha]

Yes it is.

LOL yes! How did you know? I was trying to make you think otherwise ... you know, trying to get an advantage over the bad guys ... what they don't know can only hurt them ... I'll pull that 'Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon' on them while they're trying to figure out how to squeeze that trigger.

LOL Bushido who do you think you can stomp?