Info and pic on Out For A Kill

DJWRIGHT

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I agree justice Kata is definitley a perfect 10!

Out for a kill seems to have a much better plot structure than the Foreinger Lets just hope the fight scences are action packed! Rather than Seagal leaning up against a fireplace firng aimless shots (The Foreinger)

Since the out for a kill went straight to video I have the assumption that it could be like Foreinger with so many stand ins for Seagal, like the scene during "The Foreinger" when he is running out of the house that caught fire after a gun fight. The stand in doesn't even closely resemble seagal. In additon let hope that his voice isnt dubbed over again (The foreinger). this makes me think our hero is too preoccupied to read his lines.

In shorter words lets just hope its all out kick ass Seagal

cool website

Peace to all
 

MMCK2

New Member
Good find Justice808!

Seagal still looks a little on the portly side though, but the plot does sound quite good and does promise a few martial arts battles, at least in the synoposis.

Peace.

MMCK
 
Originally posted by justice808
http://www.kungfucinema.com/news/2003-06-14-01.htm

Good news,Mike,it is the Robert Burns version!Let's hope it kicks ass!

Kata Dobo looks hooooooot!

Peace,

Leon

Hey, that is some good news and I am gonna pre-order it next week from www.amazon.com along with "Tears of the Sun" and "Dark Blue".
Lets hope there are some good fights and not too much stand-ins for Seagal. It does sound a lot better than his last 2 pictures though and it is carrying an 'R' rating.
I wonder what all of that "Mexican drug plot" that was originally put up for this movie was all about. I like this plot the best though and hopefully, like you say: it will kick ass.
 

TDWoj

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Staff member
I have to say from that photo, Steven looks like s**t. I don't care about the "portliness", he just looks tired and - dare I say it - old and worn out.

Before everyone starts jumping on my head for Steven-bashing, I am not Steven-bashing, this is not a criticism, it's an observation. He is not taking care of himself, and this is not a good thing for him, or for us who like to watch him.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Well I think that is just rude, but that's just me...We don't always have to give our opinions so blatantly, I think if we are a lady, we might sometimes withhold our comments lest someone think we are the same as an overly aggressive testosterone toting guy...But hey, you knew I would get upset at anyone dissing Steven like that, just call me crazy, I don't really care...I do agree though that he is obviously working way too hard...He is making back to back films, and obviously needs some pampering and some TLC...I think he has always had a "rough" look about him, but he does not look like S*** and never will in my book...Besides there are lots of things that make him attractive, so he's got a few lines, who cares...I sure don't, I think he's fabulous...Yes, I am defending him again, because frankly, I care about him...I adore you Steven, you are the best...:)
 

suziwong

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Staff member
Wonderful !! Good find Justice !! Thank you !!:)
She is really hot and beautiful woman !! Steven looks nice !!
I like this movie !!
We ordered to AMAZON now !!!!!!!! Wowwwwww !!

in oneness:)
 

MMCK2

New Member
Originally posted by TDWoj
I have to say from that photo, Steven looks like s**t. I don't care about the "portliness", he just looks tired and - dare I say it - old and worn out.

Before everyone starts jumping on my head for Steven-bashing, I am not Steven-bashing, this is not a criticism, it's an observation. He is not taking care of himself, and this is not a good thing for him, or for us who like to watch him.

Hi TDWoj.

I did'nt find your post rude or offensive and would in fact tend to agree with your observation. Seagal does indeed look tired and bloated to me as well. I would'nt mind this if it did'nt interfere with his screen martial arts ability but as a few other posters on this board have pointed out, you get tired paying money to see his films only to have his fights sped up till they look ridiculous or a stunt double being used to stand in for him to do his aikido. I am a fan of Steven Seagal primarily for his fighting prowess which used to be so brutal, fluent and above all flawless. This combined with his unique screen presence made him stand out to me as the baddest motherf*cker in action film circles for years, untill he started to let himself go.

Lotussan, I understand that you like Seagal for a different reason than I do but don't get too rattled if everything posted about him here is not 100% complimentary of him. I don't like people coming here and critisising him malicously like what used to happen at the old board, but sometimes constructive critisism does'nt go a miss, and TDWoj's post was not meant to be mean- spirited but rather a honest observation. The fact of the matter is that he is indeed overweight and needs to sort it out if he still wan't to be a serious contender in the action film genre.

No offence meant to anyone regarding this post. We have to understand that as a human he is flawed and therefore is imperfect so of course there are aspects of him which will not please everyone and if it is addressed honestly and not abuseivly then it is acceptable to post your views in my opinion.

Peace.

MMCK
 

Kwan

Be your self...
thanks justice808!!!

well, the "Out For A Kill" DVD cover at amazon.com isn´t one of the best covers i´ve seen :(
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Well, this is just my point, he is indeed human, he has feelings, he can't be expected to be superman and be "flawless" all the time...So maybe he's tired, or maybe he doesn't feel so good, are we going to fault him for that? Do we think our "wishes" for him to be "flawless" are going to change his movies? His movies are different now, does that make them bad? No. The same thing all the time is BORING...Only he can change things himself if he wants or needs too, or is unhappy...Maybe he is satisfied, what's wrong with that? If he wants or needs to lose weight, then I support him and wish him well, as always...I know you all just want to be honest, but the fact is, if his looks and films are making you so unhappy then your ego is being selfish...Mine is doing the same thing...Sorry if I am being stubborn...I respect everyones opinion, I just think we need to look at our reasoning, and remember tough love, can be too tough sometimes...Maybe Steven is a sensitive man, we don't want to hurt him, you never know what and when he is reading around here...Steven if you are reading, Lotus loves you...You are wonderful...:)
 

suziwong

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Staff member
I agree with you Lotus. I am sure he is reading and he is looking here !! and I believe that he is soooooooo sensitive man. May be he looks like tought but this is his image !! Tought and romantic !! Hiiiiiiii what a man ?? I love Steven !!

and Kwan you are right !! Who drawed this picture I don't know but this is not a Steven!! Another thing !! But it is not Steven !!
in oneness
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Yes Suzi, his image is one thing...But I bet he is a romantic man, six kids, you know...:D I think he's great, wonderful, fantastic, just the man, I don't worry about the image...:)
 

TDWoj

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Staff member
See, I knew I was going to stir up a hornet's nest if I said something that was honest and came right from the heart.

Answering MMCK2, I'm divided about what kinds of films I'd like to see him in. Part of me wants the kick-ass aikido master of the old days. He is a joy to watch when he is doing his aikido. Part of me likes the more cerebral roles. I do want to see him do his own stunts because I like the way he moves. On the other hand, I do not want him to drop dead of a heart attack while doing them.

I'm not sure how concern about his health and well-being got translated into being selfish, or harsh, or that I was dissing him in any way. And Lotus, my dear, when you said Well I think that is just rude, but that's just me...We don't always have to give our opinions so blatantly, I think if we are a lady, we might sometimes withhold our comments lest someone think we are the same as an overly aggressive testosterone toting guy, you may be right - there's no way I'm a lady if by being a lady means lying to someone I love, or only telling him things he wants to hear, because telling him anything else might hurt his feelings.

What I would like Steven to think, in the unlikely event that he does read these boards, is that here is someone who is a true friend - someone who is not afraid to say what she thinks, even if it's unpalatable, or what people don't want to hear. I expect that's going to make me unpopular around here, and I'm sorry about that. I am really, really sorry about that. But honesty is the best gift I can give to someone I care about, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Of course, being concerned about how ill and worn he looks isn't going to stop me buying Out for a Kill when it's released. And he did look fairly chipper (if bigger than ever) in those photos taken in February at the Victoria's Secret thingie in New York. So one hopes things have improved since Out for a Kill was shot.

Footnote: On one occasion, I did withhold saying something about someone's ill health, out of politeness. Two days later the boy was dead, and I have been haunted ever since with guilt - that if I had only spoken up when I thought I should have instead of being polite and saying nothing, he might have been taken to the hospital in time to save him. I will never forgive myself for keeping silent. I'd rather people resent me for being blunt that ever have that happen again.
 

MMCK2

New Member
Originally posted by Lotussan
Well, this is just my point, he is indeed human, he has feelings, he can't be expected to be superman and be "flawless" all the time...So maybe he's tired, or maybe he doesn't feel so good, are we going to fault him for that? Do we think our "wishes" for him to be "flawless" are going to change his movies? His movies are different now, does that make them bad? No. The same thing all the time is BORING...Only he can change things himself if he wants or needs too, or is unhappy...Maybe he is satisfied, what's wrong with that? If he wants or needs to lose weight, then I support him and wish him well, as always...I know you all just want to be honest, but the fact is, if his looks and films are making you so unhappy then your ego is being selfish...Mine is doing the same thing...Sorry if I am being stubborn...I respect everyones opinion, I just think we need to look at our reasoning, and remember tough love, can be too tough sometimes...Maybe Steven is a sensitive man, we don't want to hurt him, you never know what and when he is reading around here...Steven if you are reading, Lotus loves you...You are wonderful...:)

First of all what I described as "flawless" was his screen martial arts abilities not his personality/character, to clear up that misunderstanding. Only God is flawless. Also to pick up on your point of his movies being different now does'nt make them bad, well it does'nt always mean that they are good either as I am sure I am not alone in thinking that the movies he has made in the last 6-7 years (with maybe the exception of "Exit Wounds") have been dissapointing and don't even come close to the brilliance of his earlier movies. The same thing all the time is boring, you are right, but if the effort was put into his fight scenes I would'nt have a problem with them as I actually quite liked the plot of "The Foreigner" and thought he acted reasonably well in it.

Another thing, respect is a two-way street and unless I know Seagal in real life and his real life characteristics I will not always hold back from criticising him (though not maliciously). He does not live in a vacuum and am pretty sure he is not a choirboy who is offended by a little critical flack every now and again. I mean if he was as sensitive to criticism as you make out he would have stopped making films years ago as you have probably noticed that 90% of film critics despise him and write a lot more offensive things about him than what me and TDWjo have written about him. Also, how do you know Steven Seagal is so very sensitive in real life? Not being smart here, but I am presuming you have met him in real life because anytime I have seen him making TV appearences he strikes me as anything but sensitive. Maybe you know different?

Your loyalty to him is commendable, I will give you that Lotussan but you have to realise that it is not being reciprocated by him. Seagal has a reputation of treating his fans with apathy and from what I remember did'nt exactly visit the official board too often. In fact you could have counted the amount of times he addressed the official message board on the hand of a guy that had four of his fingers blown off! Look at Schwarzenegger or Jet Li, they post all the time at their official sites and even help young fans with dillema's and problems they post. That is how you should treat your fans.

I don't want this to turn into a dissing fest, you have your opinions as i have mine. Lets leave it at that.

Peace.

MMCK
 

MMCK2

New Member
Originally posted by TDWoj
See, I knew I was going to stir up a hornet's nest if I said something that was honest and came right from the heart.

Answering MMCK2, I'm divided about what kinds of films I'd like to see him in. Part of me wants the kick-ass aikido master of the old days. He is a joy to watch when he is doing his aikido. Part of me likes the more cerebral roles. I do want to see him do his own stunts because I like the way he moves. On the other hand, I do not want him to drop dead of a heart attack while doing them.

I'm not sure how concern about his health and well-being got translated into being selfish, or harsh, or that I was dissing him in any way. And Lotus, my dear, when you said Well I think that is just rude, but that's just me...We don't always have to give our opinions so blatantly, I think if we are a lady, we might sometimes withhold our comments lest someone think we are the same as an overly aggressive testosterone toting guy, you may be right - there's no way I'm a lady if by being a lady means lying to someone I love, or only telling him things he wants to hear, because telling him anything else might hurt his feelings.

What I would like Steven to think, in the unlikely event that he does read these boards, is that here is someone who is a true friend - someone who is not afraid to say what she thinks, even if it's unpalatable, or what people don't want to hear. I expect that's going to make me unpopular around here, and I'm sorry about that. I am really, really sorry about that. But honesty is the best gift I can give to someone I care about, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Of course, being concerned about how ill and worn he looks isn't going to stop me buying Out for a Kill when it's released. And he did look fairly chipper (if bigger than ever) in those photos taken in February at the Victoria's Secret thingie in New York. So one hopes things have improved since Out for a Kill was shot.

Footnote: On one occasion, I did withhold saying something about someone's ill health, out of politeness. Two days later the boy was dead, and I have been haunted ever since with guilt - that if I had only spoken up when I thought I should have instead of being polite and saying nothing, he might have been taken to the hospital in time to save him. I will never forgive myself for keeping silent. I'd rather people resent me for being blunt that ever have that happen again.

Good post, I can heartly agree with you. I don't want people to think that I am someone who is totally negative as I believe in building up people's confidence even if i do exaggerate sometimes about how good they do a particular task, but a weight issue is another matter as TDWoj pointed out it can also prove fatal as well as slow you down considerably. I mean I will not totally slag Seagal off as I think he has improved as an actor but I would definatly be lying if I said I enjoyed the action aspects of his recent films.

Also TDWoj a unique wish for his future films is to combine those two aspects you describe and make more classics, that also require you to think.

I wholy understand where you are coming from and agree with you that it is unlikely that he even visits this board when he hardly even came near the official one.

Peace.

MMCK
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Does anyone have a good guess on how tall Steven's female co-star Kata Dobo is? I liked the photo of them, but I would like to know how much taller she is then me, so that I can get an idea of how I will look once I am finally standing next to Steven...Course I will be wearing heels, and I am sure she is in the pic, so it's hard to say I guess...I am 5 foot 2 so what's your guess about where I will end up? I am trying to picture it, and can't...
 
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