My Seagal Pics

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Sue,
I understand where you are coming from, but calling his children luggage?
That isn't very nice...Children are a joy, especially the little ones, and I am sure Steven adores his children more than anything...I doubt he has any regrets about having them at all, nor should he have...If a woman truly loves
a man, then she will naturally love his children as well, as they are of his blood and after all, they are half him...They are not luggage, they are all beautiful human beings...I am sure you didn't mean anything by your choice of words so if I am out of line, I apologize...
 
sue sweet said:
To kokoro and others on the 'board' who think that making remarks about Arissa is wrong. Of course I am jealous of her, which of us females wouldn't swap places with her at Steven's side. What an honour !! I don't think we would
be normal if we were not jealous. Also wondering about the 'lack' of marriage ... I am a woman !! I'd love to know all the ins and outs concerning him especially when previously Steven seemed to jump into it (marriage) even when he shouldn't!!! We understand that he is ALL MAN but each one of us perceives him in our own way. I married my husband the same year that Steven married Miyako. We are still together .....I have no children but a wonderful loving husband. Steven has a pile of 'luggage' that will at some time have to be unpacked. Is my husband luckier than he is? I wonder about these things and
please forgive me, sometimes express these wonderings here on the board. If I had realised I was upsetting people I certainly wouldn't have done it and certainly won't again.

My apologies to anyone/everyone who loves/hates Arissa.
I was only wondering..............................?
Sue

awe the yittle english muffin' is all hurt 'cause someone disagreed with her and wont' take a chance and do it again.
WAH! 'Kin WAH!
It's part of life, and what makes a message a message board. We need both yin and yang, both views.
So don't shut up!
:rolleyes:
:D
 

kokoro

Protector
TDWoj said:
I wasn't going to post again on the subject because I didn't want to hijack littledragon's thread any further, however....

Kokoro, you suggested that commenting on members' pictures in the same vein would be "fair game", a remark that I took as directed at me. Go ahead: do your worst. I assure you, though, I have heard it all. (Cue Cyrano de Bergerac.)

C'mon! Do you really think I would try to humilliate someone in such a public way about a photo on the net, or worse, in person??!! It' s not something I would do.
You took the comment wrong. It was not directed at you personally. But if we as members are going to ridicule someone about the way they look, let's start on the members (ourselves) first, and see how it feels.

You state you have been subjected to criticisims on your looks, then, go ahead and do it to someone else. Stinks of hypocrisy!!

You are not the only one that has been ridiculed on the way you look, some of us that have, tend to not be so harsh about the way others look.

You and others are entitled to your opinion, I just don't agree with it, which is my opinion. I stand by what I said.
Uglyness, like beauty, comes from the heart.

No offense TD, I'm just in total disagreement (and disbelief)

kokoro
 

kokoro

Protector
sue sweet said:
To kokoro and others on the 'board' who think that making remarks about Arissa is wrong. Of course I am jealous of her, which of us females wouldn't swap places with her at Steven's side. What an honour !! I don't think we would
be normal if we were not jealous. Also wondering about the 'lack' of marriage ... I am a woman !! I'd love to know all the ins and outs concerning him especially when previously Steven seemed to jump into it (marriage) even when he shouldn't!!! We understand that he is ALL MAN but each one of us perceives him in our own way. I married my husband the same year that Steven married Miyako. We are still together .....I have no children but a wonderful loving husband. Steven has a pile of 'luggage' that will at some time have to be unpacked. Is my husband luckier than he is? I wonder about these things and
please forgive me, sometimes express these wonderings here on the board. If I had realised I was upsetting people I certainly wouldn't have done it and certainly won't again.

My apologies to anyone/everyone who loves/hates Arissa.
I was only wondering..............................?
Sue

That's fine Sue, be jealous. It was some of the remarks I believe were a little too harsh and personal about her looks that bothered me. People will get upset/bothered etc, that's life, don't let it stop you being who you are, or becoming what you can be.
Everyone has an opinion.

kokoro
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
kokoro said:
You state you have been subjected to criticisims on your looks, then, go ahead and do it to someone else. Stinks of hypocrisy!!

How do you figure that, exactly? I knew there were some people who were going to interpret what I said the way you did, but there wasn't any other way I could tell you where I was coming from in honest terms, which is very far from being hypocritical. I was as relentlessly honest in that as I am in everything else, to my detriment, it seems.

You are not the only one that has been ridiculed on the way you look, some of us that have, tend to not be so harsh about the way others look.

That's one of way handling it. It's not my way. The purpose of many of such criticisms is to make the object of the criticism put up and shut up; essentially, to make them a victim. I simply refused to accept that. I chose to handle the criticisms differently; I chose to analyse the criticism. Why is this person considered more attractive than another? What do I think is attractive? What differs between my interpretation and another's?

You and others are entitled to your opinion, I just don't agree with it, which is my opinion. I stand by what I said.

So do I, kokoro. But you'll notice I didn't call you any names, or make a judgement upon your opinion. You called me a hypocrite. That's about the worst insult you can lay on me, because I am never anything but honest about what I feel and think.

Uglyness, like beauty, comes from the heart.

No offense TD, I'm just in total disagreement (and disbelief)

kokoro

I am offended, kokoro, as much by the sly dig at my character as by the out-and-out insult upon it.

I looked up "hypocrisy" in my dictionary. It said this: "a pretense of having desirable or publicly approved attitudes, beliefs, principles, etc. that one does not actually possess".

I think I've made it pretty clear that I do NOT have publicly approved attitudes, beliefs and principles, and I've never made any claim that I have. What would have made me a hypocrite, kokoro, would have been to agree with others who hold the popular opinion while believing something else entirely. That is hypocrisy; and that's something I would never do.

"Ugliness, like beauty, comes from the heart."

You've said that twice, now. I don't know what your definition of ugliness is, but mine includes dishonesty, deception, hypocrisy, betrayal, manipulation, self-centredness and selfishness.

I have no doubt that my raw honesty and relentlessly blunt manner of expressing myself is off-putting to some; but at least people know exactly where they stand with me. They know they can rely on me to tell them the truth, and know that what I'm telling them is coming from the real *me*, and not some persona I put on for the occasion to fit some arbitrary definition of being "nice".

I gave my honest opinion on why I thought Arissa was not beautiful. I even gave you an honest and straight from the heart explanation of where that opinion came from. I didn't say, "maybe", I didn't say "possibly", I said what it was. I know my shortcomings, and I laid them bare.

That you don't agree with my opinion is perfectly acceptable. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, nor do I expect to agree with others all the time. That's what makes things interesting, both here and in the mundane world. But to tell me that I'm a hypocrite for expressing my opinion because as a victim of criticism on my own looks I therefore *should not* make a critical assessment of another's - no, I do not find that acceptable. That, in *my* book, IS hypocrisy, and I won't do it.

If being honest about my thoughts and motivations makes me ugly in your eyes, well, so be it.

Again, littledragon, I apologise for the continuing hijack of your thread. Please post some more pictures soon!

-TD, raw
 
TDWoj said:
How do you figure that, exactly? I knew there were some people who were going to interpret what I said the way you did, but there wasn't any other way I could tell you where I was coming from in honest terms, which is very far from being hypocritical. I was as relentlessly honest in that as I am in everything else, to my detriment, it seems.



That's one of way handling it. It's not my way. The purpose of many of such criticisms is to make the object of the criticism put up and shut up; essentially, to make them a victim. I simply refused to accept that. I chose to handle the criticisms differently; I chose to analyse the criticism. Why is this person considered more attractive than another? What do I think is attractive? What differs between my interpretation and another's?



So do I, kokoro. But you'll notice I didn't call you any names, or make a judgement upon your opinion. You called me a hypocrite. That's about the worst insult you can lay on me, because I am never anything but honest about what I feel and think.



I am offended, kokoro, as much by the sly dig at my character as by the out-and-out insult upon it.

I looked up "hypocrisy" in my dictionary. It said this: "a pretense of having desirable or publicly approved attitudes, beliefs, principles, etc. that one does not actually possess".

I think I've made it pretty clear that I do NOT have publicly approved attitudes, beliefs and principles, and I've never made any claim that I have. What would have made me a hypocrite, kokoro, would have been to agree with others who hold the popular opinion while believing something else entirely. That is hypocrisy; and that's something I would never do.

"Ugliness, like beauty, comes from the heart."

You've said that twice, now. I don't know what your definition of ugliness is, but mine includes dishonesty, deception, hypocrisy, betrayal, manipulation, self-centredness and selfishness.

I have no doubt that my raw honesty and relentlessly blunt manner of expressing myself is off-putting to some; but at least people know exactly where they stand with me. They know they can rely on me to tell them the truth, and know that what I'm telling them is coming from the real *me*, and not some persona I put on for the occasion to fit some arbitrary definition of being "nice".

I gave my honest opinion on why I thought Arissa was not beautiful. I even gave you an honest and straight from the heart explanation of where that opinion came from. I didn't say, "maybe", I didn't say "possibly", I said what it was. I know my shortcomings, and I laid them bare.

That you don't agree with my opinion is perfectly acceptable. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, nor do I expect to agree with others all the time. That's what makes things interesting, both here and in the mundane world. But to tell me that I'm a hypocrite for expressing my opinion because as a victim of criticism on my own looks I therefore *should not* make a critical assessment of another's - no, I do not find that acceptable. That, in *my* book, IS hypocrisy, and I won't do it.

If being honest about my thoughts and motivations makes me ugly in your eyes, well, so be it.

Again, littledragon, I apologise for the continuing hijack of your thread. Please post some more pictures soon!

-TD, raw
For Christs sake.
Is this all steming from not having something to occupy yourself? You've got to occupie yourself by being hypersensative about someone who's not trying to be confrontational and if I know kokoro, that was his last subject on the topic (as there is nothing more to say about)
I told Sue not to shut up. But it's 'bout time for you to shut up on the topic. You're being uber 'kin bitter.
If you want to be pretentious, bitter, and long winded, you'll fit in over at the Highlander BB.
-Sf, Twists that huge shard of glass that seems to be up TD's ass.

P.F.N.S.!
Kokoro does not dig at peoples characters, and to imply it as sly.
You Seek to be smart in your replies but you do not like it when someone else does the same. Now I know you'll try to be smart and rebutte this saying you're not and go on some sermon about opinions, conversation blah blah blah, the conversation was over 30 posts ago, it's a knock em out drag em down fight now.
Well I'm being like you lady, Blunt as a obnoxious 40 something with nothing better to do than find confrontation at a stupid Fin' message board. Hell you have little dick syndrome(I don't know if your a transvestite or anything but you display the psychological characteristics of it, hell if you were a man you'd be balding and driving a Camero)
Perhaps one needs to go find some tranquility at a Garden or a temple or a monestary!
Here I thought i was being patient today.
Btw, just because I won't reply to your follow up post doesn't mean you have won the arguement. Just means I Don't give a damn, for when won't admit an obvious truth. Whats the point to fighting with them?
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
Trinity said:
So,how about those Broncos? :D

That's a football team, right? ;)

Littledragon, how 'bout some more pictures? I could use a pick-me-up about now!
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
Sleeping Fox said:
For Christs sake.
Is this all steming from not having something to occupy yourself? You've got to occupie yourself by being hypersensative about someone who's not trying to be confrontational and if I know kokoro, that was his last subject on the topic (as there is nothing more to say about)
I told Sue not to shut up. But it's 'bout time for you to shut up on the topic. You're being uber 'kin bitter.
If you want to be pretentious, bitter, and long winded, you'll fit in over at the Highlander BB.
-Sf, Twists that huge shard of glass that seems to be up TD's ass.

P.F.N.S.!
Kokoro does not dig at peoples characters, and to imply it as sly.
You Seek to be smart in your replies but you do not like it when someone else does the same. Now I know you'll try to be smart and rebutte this saying you're not and go on some sermon about opinions, conversation blah blah blah, the conversation was over 30 posts ago, it's a knock em out drag em down fight now.
Well I'm being like you lady, Blunt as a obnoxious 40 something with nothing better to do than find confrontation at a stupid Fin' message board. Hell you have little dick syndrome(I don't know if your a transvestite or anything but you display the psychological characteristics of it, hell if you were a man you'd be balding and driving a Camero)
Perhaps one needs to go find some tranquility at a Garden or a temple or a monestary!
Here I thought i was being patient today.
Btw, just because I won't reply to your follow up post doesn't mean you have won the arguement. Just means I Don't give a damn, for when won't admit an obvious truth. Whats the point to fighting with them?

Wow... I'm impressed! Thanks, Fox!
 

Trinity

My Hero.
TDWoj said:
That's a football team, right? ;)

Littledragon, how 'bout some more pictures? I could use a pick-me-up about now!
Yup.(Trinity looking around carefully)I would like to see Green Bay get it together!:)Yes Littledragon,please more pics!:)
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
Sleeping Fox said:
For Christs sake.
Is this all steming from not having something to occupy yourself? You've got to occupie yourself by being hypersensative about someone who's not trying to be confrontational and if I know kokoro, that was his last subject on the topic (as there is nothing more to say about)
I told Sue not to shut up. But it's 'bout time for you to shut up on the topic. You're being uber 'kin bitter.
If you want to be pretentious, bitter, and long winded, you'll fit in over at the Highlander BB.
-Sf, Twists that huge shard of glass that seems to be up TD's ass.
Still pissed at being kicked off the Highlander board eh Junior? Mr O used to wind you up about that one.You're hard on TJWoj.She was one of the few to put her pic on that old members thread.,hardly the actions of someone who wants to criticize anonymously.You are funny but that dictionary you swallowed is jammed! Still, i can't bring myself to dislike your cheekiness. It's refreshing (now go to detention).
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Here I come trotting in with my two cents worth little comment...I know it wasn't that long ago that Sleeping Fox was thinking of leaving this forum. A lot of members consider that same thing because they're afraid of saying the wrong thing & upseting someone or starting another World War. No one can say anything perfect all the time-someones feelings are going to be hurt or misunderstood or get someone mad.But if you clam up & not say what is on your mind then you miss out getting to participate.
I find it ironical that each time the subject of any area of Seagals life comes up there seems to be an "touchy" discussion. Don't you agree? I hear it a lot that when someone reads what the media says about his personal life-people immediately say that is his business & his business alone..so why when it is discussed here,does it become such a "touchy" discussion? Just a thought!
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
Trinity said:
Yup.(Trinity looking around carefully)I would like to see Green Bay get it together!:)Yes Littledragon,please more pics!:)

What I know about American football wouldn't fill a thimble. I hardly know what's going on in Canadian football (usually, not much!) but I think the Toronto Argonauts have made it into the first round of the finals for the Grey Cup.

We could use a winning team in this city. Don't think our poor Leafs are going to get anywhere this year, unless they dump Pat Quinn, or upstairs gets off their collective butts and gets us some good players (that's hockey, eh).

-TD, a die-hard Maple Leaf fan forever
 

Trinity

My Hero.
TDWoj said:
What I know about American football wouldn't fill a thimble. I hardly know what's going on in Canadian football (usually, not much!) but I think the Toronto Argonauts have made it into the first round of the finals for the Grey Cup.

We could use a winning team in this city. Don't think our poor Leafs are going to get anywhere this year, unless they dump Pat Quinn, or upstairs gets off their collective butts and gets us some good players (that's hockey, eh).

-TD, a die-hard Maple Leaf fan forever
I'm not much for watching sports,I enjoy playing them.Footballs not bad for watching though:)
 
TDWoj said:
What I know about American football wouldn't fill a thimble. I hardly know what's going on in Canadian football (usually, not much!) but I think the Toronto Argonauts have made it into the first round of the finals for the Grey Cup.

We could use a winning team in this city. Don't think our poor Leafs are going to get anywhere this year, unless they dump Pat Quinn, or upstairs gets off their collective butts and gets us some good players (that's hockey, eh).

-TD, a die-hard Maple Leaf fan forever

*chants*
Golf Leafs Golf
Golf Leafs Golf
Golf Leafs Golf
:D
 

Lollipop

Banned
If you every run out of a good read, read this thread!!!!!
I came in looking for pictures!!! WOW I got an ear full!!!!!!!! :gun:
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
Lollipop said:
If you every run out of a good read, read this thread!!!!!
I came in looking for pictures!!! WOW I got an ear full!!!!!!!! :gun:


It is isin't it Lollipop, and I never got the chance to interact with SleepingFox. :D
 

Lollipop

Banned
Littledragon said:
It is isin't it Lollipop, and I never got the chance to interact with SleepingFox. :D

This is HILAROUS! I like going back and finding older stuff since I have not been here that long! I find the members fasanating! The was a treat! :cool: :cool:
 
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