Savage Promising Unleashed!

yudansha

TheGreatOne
Ringo Lam Unleashed In Hell

Steven Seagal's upcoming movie (that's supposedly 'In Production') is looking very promising. Ringo Lam was said to be the directing leader for the Seagal's upcoming feature presentation of 'Unleashed.' For all those unfamiliar with his work, I strongly recommend watching 'In Hell' (a.k.a. The Savage) starring Jean Claude Van Damme. I just finished viewing the film, and all I can say is that if Van Damme keeps going with his movies in that direction, he WILL be a reincarnated success. Unlike Steven Seagal, Van Damme has always shown to be more of a fighter than an artist, and 'In Hell' shows no art; well no martial art that is. 'In Hell' was very well directed and Van Damme has shown a new side to his acting (very dramatical at all times) thanks to Ringo Lam.

For those who have lost faith in Jean Claude (or for those who had none to begin with) go and get the movie and see the rehabilitated "muscles from Brussels." DO NOT rent the movie expecting a non-stop thrills of action keeping you at the edges of your seats, because that is not what the movie is about at all. The movie actually takes a serious view and brings light upon those who do not know of the conditions and the inhumane treatments of prisoners in Eastern European prisons (Russia in this case). This is a Seagal-type movie with a well defined script and a narrative portion that keeps you watching right until a dramatic finish.

Van Damme's latest movies were not of the quality he once used to make (80's and early 90's) similar to Steven Seagal's (keep in mind I haven't seen Belly of the Beast yet). But 'In Hell' reintroduces you to the man you once knew of being compationate to the sport and to his career, who is looking to a future of success and recognition (maybe not so much in the sport itself, but in acting). Van Damme has my respect for doing such a piece of work, and Ringo Lam has my patience running short for 'Unleashed.'

The DVD of 'In Hell' shows Ringo Lam in action, and portrays him as a director not to mess with. This is a director who asks for perfection, and nothing less PERIOD! Those who opposed him, feared him, but that's what made 'In Hell' a total success (in my view). Steven Seagal deserves nothing else but perfection, and Ringo Lam alongside the Sensei will make a team that producers will throw money at (or should for that matter, because I would if I could afford to invest).
 
Yudansha,it is starting to look like Unleased won't be made at all:(.Seagal starts work on Into The Sun on 15th March;then he goes straight on to Submerged in June.I just can't see him being able to fit Unleashed & Glory in this schedual.

Peace,
Leon
 

yudansha

TheGreatOne
One might only SAY that

You may THINK that justice808, but I have no doubts that Steven Seagal can make it happen. I don't know what you mean by Glory, because I have heard nothing yet on that picture (maybe it's a different name for some other upcoming release).

Justice, I do recommend you watch 'In Hell' DVD to see what Ringo Lam is about, and since Seagal is familiar with him, he cannot decline an opportunity like that.

... thanks for the reply
 
yudansha said:
You may THINK that justice808, but I have no doubts that Steven Seagal can make it happen. I don't know what you mean by Glory, because I have heard nothing yet on that picture (maybe it's a different name for some other upcoming release).

Justice, I do recommend you watch 'In Hell' DVD to see what Ringo Lam is about, and since Seagal is familiar with him, he cannot decline an opportunity like that.

... thanks for the reply

Yudansha,are you kidding me?What makes you think that I don't know Lam's work?I have nearly every dvd title by Ringo Lam!I love his direction.I am going to get 'In Hell' DVD later this week when I pick up 'Belly Of The Beast'.It seems that In Hell,like BOTB,has been getting mainly positive reviews.

I hope I am wrong & that Unleashed does get made this year.

'Glory' is a gangster action film(supposed to be set in London)that is to be directed by Michael"what do you mean you don't like my direction"Oblowitz.Time will tell if this project is a reality.

Peace,
Leon
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Somehow, if intimidation works for this director, I don't think he will be very intimidating to Mr. Seagal, more like the other way round...:D
Supposedly, the new film starts on the 15th, but isn't he supposed to be in India on the 15th of March? In that case, I wonder if he'll be starting filming on 'into the sun' or not...
He's supposedly got so much going on, I am confused again with the titles...
'Into the sun' is supposed to be the next one, and then 'Unleashed' is supposed to be made and then 'Submerged' is thought by some to be US3 on a sub, that would be REALLY cool...
And the premise of Glory sounds very interesting...
He sure has an awful lot going on...Steven dearest, you are amazing...:)
 

yudansha

TheGreatOne
again

Justice I have never said or implied or even inteded to imply that you don't know of Ringo Lam's work, all I did was recommend you and the rest of those reading the thread the movie by Ringo Lam.

Lotussan Ringo Lam might not be intimidating to Steven Seagal (I never said he would be); all I said was that Ringo Lam was one who demands perfection. (so judging your response, I might say that you don't think Seagal could provide that to Ringo Lam, and that Lam might be intimidating for that; but that's just an analysis to your response because many seem to get me wrong in the last while, no matter what I write). I said that Seagal and Lam would make a great team, and I don't know what the problem is, because Lam has shown and proved to be a great director, whereas Steven Seagal needs that to showcase his skills once again. (THE END!)

So please go and watch "In Hell" (a.k.a. "The Savage") to see what you might (might) expect from Steven Seagal's "Unleashed."
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Yudansha,
Let me say,that I believe that Sensei Seagal can provide anyone with anything that he personally wants to, however, I can bet that if he doesn't like someone or doesn't want to do something, then it won't go well...
If the director is a nit picky freak, I am sure Mr. Seagal wouldn't like that very much...
I'm afraid you've gotten my post all wrong...
Call me biased, but in my eyes Steven Seagal is very close to perfection, so I would never imply that he couldn't do something, NOT EVER...
I have tremendous faith in Mr. Seagal...
To me he's phenomenally talented, and very determined, in fact I think he is exactly the type of man who needs his independence, I feel that he is a man who needs to express himself in the way he sees fit...I think he is definately one who is more of a leader than a follower, that is all I meant to say...
I also know that he seems very set in his ways, I don't see that as being negative, I see it as being strong and independent, very admirable...
As for 'in hell' who knows...
I doubt I will run out and rent it, but we might catch if it is on pay per view, as we just got the dish network...
I don't like to compare him to anyone, it's not possible for me...
 

yudansha

TheGreatOne
Followers follow Leaders who rely on followers

Lotussan I understand and do believe that you are devoted to Steven Seagal and that you do respect him a great deal. I also the one to see Seagal as the leader; he is the Sensei after all. However, as far as the movie business, I will have to oppose your views. If Ringo Lam does work with Steven Seagal on "Unleashed" it will benefit Seagal's acting and Lam's finances. Need I remind you that to get the part in Exit Wounds, Seagal was told that he needed to get rid of his pony-tail look and the clothing (i.e. as in "The Glimmer Man")? I guess the outcome of that 'order' to Seagal you know, and probably have seen in the nearest movie theatre nearest you.

I believe Steven Seagal recognizes Ringo Lam as a unique and well experienced director, and if need comes will listen, obey, and let Lam do the job that he was hired to do. After all, as far as I know Seagal is not an executive producer for the motion picture, so his part for the film is as an actor. But the two will make it work for the fans, because I know that Steven Seagal admires his fans and loves to impress and entertain all ranges of his own followers.
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
Lotussan said:
Yudansha,
Let me say,that I believe that Sensei Seagal can provide anyone with anything that he personally wants to, however, I can bet that if he doesn't like someone or doesn't want to do something, then it won't go well...
If the director is a nit picky freak, I am sure Mr. Seagal wouldn't like that very much...
I'm afraid you've gotten my post all wrong...
Call me biased, but in my eyes Steven Seagal is very close to perfection, so I would never imply that he couldn't do something, NOT EVER...
I have tremendous faith in Mr. Seagal...
To me he's phenomenally talented, and very determined, in fact I think he is exactly the type of man who needs his independence, I feel that he is a man who needs to express himself in the way he sees fit...I think he is definately one who is more of a leader than a follower, that is all I meant to say...
I also know that he seems very set in his ways, I don't see that as being negative, I see it as being strong and independent, very admirable...
As for 'in hell' who knows...
I doubt I will run out and rent it, but we might catch if it is on pay per view, as we just got the dish network...
I don't like to compare him to anyone, it's not possible for me...


Here,Here..Girl well said.Heather
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
Exact-a-mondoo..Umm to those who dont know what iam saying translated it means.
That your darn tootin, that actions speak louder then words..Heather.
 

steve

New Member
Ringo Lam

Ringo Lam is an excellent director and his three films with Van Damme have all being entertaining stuff. I hope The Master DOESN'T have time to make Glory as, and I think I probably speak for most people here, I could well do without another Oblowitz-directed film as this is rumoured to be.
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
Ringo Lam good director but I didn't like "Hell". I didn't like Van Damme in Hell.
I couln't see any extrordinary details. We saw too many films looks like "Hell" !! :D

in onenesss

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Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Yudansha,

I am sure if this director is level headed and the chemistry is right between them,
that everything will go well for the Sensei and for the film, and that Steven will aim
to please, as I think he always does...
He did do those things that were asked of for Exit Wounds, dropping a few pounds, cutting his hair and wearing the clothes chosen for him, which of course I liked a whole lot...
I do think he cares what we fans think very much...
However, I think he's a rebel sometimes, and I totally admire that...
However, I don't think he would ever be stubborn about doing something that was ultimately to his benefit...
All I am saying is that sometimes men in high positions have vast differences of opinion...
Peace.
 
Lotussan said:
Supposedly, the new film starts on the 15th, but isn't he supposed to be in India on the 15th of March? In that case, I wonder if he'll be starting filming on 'into the sun' or not...

Lotus,the Bollywood festival in India ends on the 14th March.
 

Disciple

come get some
Ringo Lam's Van Damme films are good, but his earlier Hong Kong stuff is even better. By the way, Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs is based on one of Lam's best films.

I have my doubts if he will actually do a movie with SS though. Lam's relationship with Van Damme is too strong right now. But we'll see I guess. If it happens, it can only be good for Sensei...
 

yudansha

TheGreatOne
clarification

Lotussan I agree about that sometimes rebel is inside Seagal, and wants to come out, that's his big ego working overtime. And for a man of Steven Seagal's position and class in the society, you can't go without it.

Suzi I need some clarification on what you meant by too many movies like "In Hell" because I just cannot recall any like that. I do not remember anyone ever making a major motion picture on Eastern European prisons or their conditions. All you ever saw was either Alcatraz involvement or something in the sort of Alcatraz. But even at super-max security prisons, the treatment of the prisoners exceeds in quality compared to any such types you see in "In Hell."
 

Mama San

Administrator
justice808 said:
Lotussan said:
Supposedly, the new film starts on the 15th, but isn't he supposed to be in India on the 15th of March? In that case, I wonder if he'll be starting filming on 'into the sun' or not...

Lotus,the Bollywood festival in India ends on the 14th March.

He can still be in both places....
The festival on Mar. 14th and start
filming on the 15th....It would be tight
but it could be done. Depends, I suppose,
on his priorities!! What "he" wants to do!!
God bless,
Mama san
 
Disciple said:
I have my doubts if he will actually do a movie with SS though. Lam's relationship with Van Damme is too strong right now.


Disciple,I thought Lam & Van Damme had a major falling out on the set of his latest film and are no longer friends.Are they friends again?

Peace,

Leon
 
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