Start date for "Into The Sun"

Just came across this...

SEAGAL SEEKS GEISHA:Steven Seagal is getting ready to start shooting "Into the Sun" in Japan and Romania Dec. 1, and the production's been looking for his leading lady, in the role of a fantastically gorgeous geisha.When Seagal isn't busy making love,he'll be making war on the leader of a group of Tongs.

Q:Who would you like to be Seagal's leading lady Geisha?
 

TDWoj

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You want a real answer, or the answer every female on this site is likely to give?

;)

Gosh. A real answer - well, it would be nice if it was an actress of Japanese ancestry, for verisimilitude, only I don't know of any on either side of the pond, at least, off hand.

Of course, it would have to be a sweet young thing barely out of her teens (or still in her teens, things being what they are these days in movies, pairing old guys with females young enough to be their granddaughters. Do these old guys have any idea how icky that looks?).

Hmm... no, I can't think of anyone by name - what about the actress who was the King's concubine that got executed in Anna and the King? (last version with Jodie Foster and Chow Yung Fat, of course.)
 

Serena

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Whomever they choose, they should bear in mind the following: People do remember. The following two items have come up in separate articles in the past week regarding Steven.

The first one was in an article on Disney's new movie, "Brother Bear". This was part of a discussion on the "truer representation" of locations and cultural references.

The voice of the Yup'ik-speaking "Inuit Narrator" who opens the film is that of Angayuqaq Oscar Kawagley, a Bethel-born writer and educator who teaches courses on aspects of Alaska Native philosophy and life at the University of Alaska Fairbanks.

"Kawagley thinks moviemakers are getting better at depicting Native peoples. Twelve years ago, he had a role in K.D. Lang's Alaska drama "Salmonberries," which he thought showed Natives in a balanced way. "They didn't glamorize us," he said, "but neither did they hang us out to dry." But he still cringes at some other portrayals, such as in Steven Seagal's 1994 "On Deadly Ground," in which Chinese actress Joan Chen was cast as an Eskimo who claimed she could ride a horse because she was a Native American.

"Oh, God, that was awful," he said with a chuckle.

Another was a quote from Steven. I believe it is an old quote, as I seem to remember seeing it before, but for some reason has resurfaced in two separate articles in the past week as "quotes to remember".

10/31/2003 "I am hoping that I can be known as a writer and actor some day rather than a sex symbol."
- Steven Seagal, actor and writer, looking to his legacy.
(Source: Peoplenews.com)

So whoever the lucky woman is (and she will be VERY lucky), I hope they choose wisely.
 
Perhaps an obvious choice but I would love it if they got Zhang Zi Yi(Hero,Rush Hour 2 etc)to play Seagal's leading lady :D.She is very pretty,good actress,great fighter...the list goes on.However,I have a feeling they may get someone not as famous for the part.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Well, hummmm I can't think of anyone suitable who is in hollwood at the moment...
I think she should be an extraordinarily pretty girl though, one with a delicate bone structure, who can wear the makeup well...
This is weird, because as some of you may know I have reoccuring dreams where I am a Geisha, dressed in a pink kimono, now isn't that odd?
I am sure you can guess that Steven is always my Samurai...
Whoever they pick she will be a lucky girl to get to do the love scenes with him...
Is this movie the Ghenghis Khan movie I wonder? Hmmmm...
I am so excited, it's not even funny, can't wait to see this!
 

Serena

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In all honesty, I don't believe I've known or recognized any of Steven's leading ladies in any of his movies (or most of the cast, for that matter).

Here's my suggestion: :D

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Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Thanks for the quotes Serena!
I have to admit that to me he is sheer sex on legs (and oh what yummy, legs!) But in my opinion, he is so much more than that...He's multi-talented in ways
I can only really dream about, and he got something really special about him...
Let's face it there are lots of good looking men out there, but the total package is what I am looking for, and to me, that's just what he is, he's a heck of a guy, and I truly admire and respect him as much as I drool over him, it's a very unique attraction, all encompassing and mighty thrilling, and I can definately say that I have never ever felt this way towards anyone else...
Let's face it, there has to be more than physical attraction involved if you looking for a long lasting relationship...
TD, I'm a bit concerned about your comment though, I look very young for my age, although I am almost a good ten years older than Arissa...
She's only twenty five isn't she?
I don't think Steven could care less about what most people would say or
think about age differences, and he shouldn't as far as I'm concerned, when someone is 'the one' age means nothing, and if you let it limit you, you might be missing out on the person who was made for you...And I believe that there is someone made for everyone, call it soul-mates or whatever you like...
But maybe that's a bit of a biased opinion, huh? After-all I don't like em' young myself...Ah well...
All I know is he's got it all as far as I can tell, what a man! Maybe even he would be glad to know and it isn't just his looks that are the main attraction, either...
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
Is it Joan Chen who was in Rambo and Commando? She was gorgeous. She'd do!
That statement about wanting to be not remembered as a sex symbol but a good actor sounds anything but humble..
 

suziwong

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ZHANG Zi-Yi, she played "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" isn't it ??


"She is very pretty,good actress,great fighter"
I am with you justice !! she is talent I believe !!

in oneness
 

TDWoj

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Storm said:
Is it Joan Chen who was in Rambo and Commando? She was gorgeous. She'd do!
That statement about wanting to be not remembered as a sex symbol but a good actor sounds anything but humble..

That quote's been around for quite some time- first time I saw it was on IMDB, and it was, I think, Leonard Maltin's bio of Steven on there from some years back that included that quote.

I read an interview with Joan Chen, who has pretty much stated categorically that working with Steven was the worst experience of her life and she wasn't going to work with him ever again.

Strange how so many of his "leading ladies" all seem to loathe him....
 

TDWoj

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Lotussan said:
Thanks for the quotes Serena!
TD, I'm a bit concerned about your comment though, ...

I'm talking about the general trend in movies today that tends to pair middle-aged and, frankly, old men with tender young things. The message that sends is that women who are closer in age to "the leading man" are not worthy of attention - they are and *should be* cast off for younger women. When was the last time you saw a film that paired an older leading man with a woman his own age in a romantic union; or, in the case of an action film, as his action partner? (I didn't see "About Schmidt" so I'm not sure what the outcome of that one was.) When was the last time you saw Steven in a movie with a spouse or girlfriend that matched him in age? (Out for Justice, to my recollection, is the last one. Jill Henessey doesn't count because she wasn't his girlfriend or spouse in Exit Wounds.)

No - middle aged women on screen are generally portrayed as uber-bitches making the poor middle aged man's life miserable in every way possible. Only the young woman - girl, really - treats her man right.

Some of these movie pairings are gross, some are merely ridiculous (the latest one with Anthony Hopkins is a case in point). All seem to proclaim that only young women are worthy of a man's attention - that only a young woman is a woman worth fighting for. The message being sent in today's films is that a middle-aged woman is a harridan, a screech, a fish-wife and a nag, and should be discarded as quickly as possible, or worse, disregarded and disrespected for the simple reason that she is middle-aged, and no longer the slender, doe-eyed beauty she was in her youth.

As in the case of Steven's upcoming film, the love interest has to be a sweet young thing - he's said himself a woman 26 years old is already too old for him. So it's his own personal preference as well as the general trend in films that will dictate having a sweet young thing as the "love interest" for a guy almost old enough to be her grandfather (of course, now that he's changed his date of birth on screen from 1951 to 1959, making him two years younger than me, this may be a moot point).

Middle aged women in the film industry really do have a raw deal. They are confined to playing "mom" while men the same age are portrayed as superstuds. If a middle aged woman on screen goes out looking for romance, she's generally portrayed as being desperate, pathetic and maybe even a slut with no self-respect or sense of responsibility ("Why aren't you home with the kids?" demands her irate ex-husband when ex-wife comes home after a date to find the baby-sitter had to take the kids to the hospital because the younger one took a handful of aspirin. Meanwhile, he's been out painting the town red, and this is okay.). She has no dignity, and no right to romance. But a middle aged man on screen goes out looking for romance, and he's a cool guy.

What films are doing is sending a message that women of a certain age are of no consequence in the lives of men. They are not worth fighting for; they are not worthy of being loved; they are, because of their age, necessarily and inherently evil and should be shunned at all costs. Only the young are beautiful, good, worth fighting for and worthy of love. And that, in my opinion, is just plain wrong.

-TD, on her soapbox really early in the day
 

TDWoj

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Serena said:
In all honesty, I don't believe I've known or recognized any of Steven's leading ladies in any of his movies (or most of the cast, for that matter).

Here's my suggestion: :D

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Oooo... that's quite an overbite, there! :D

Well, there was Sharon Stone in Above the Law, and Erika Eleniuk in Under Seige (I saw her in something recently, and without the cute little Jordan Tate haircut, she wasn't recognizable). Katherine Heigl went on to become "somebody" (if you were a fan of Roswell, anyhow). Jill Henessey, very recognizable from Law and Order and Crossing Jordan (what happened to that series, anyhow? They left it on a cliffhanger last season, making me think it was coming back).

Oh, and that one in Hard to Kill - what was her name? Kelly something? :D

-TD, teasing Serena mercilessly
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
Many a good tune played on an old fiddle.Older women can be much more attractive than silly young things.
 

aikidonna

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Thanks Storm!!!
Being one of the older women here(though not the oldest, heehee), we gladly accept all praise and compliments given to us. After all, everything you said is true. If you don't believe me, just ask TD and some of the others.:)
Take care
Donna
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
Not all men are like me. Most DO go for young bimbos! I just think a woman ages like fine wine,but don't ferment too long,lol.
 

Serena

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TDWoj said:
Oooo... that's quite an overbite, there! :D

Well, there was Sharon Stone in Above the Law, and Erika Eleniuk in Under Seige (I saw her in something recently, and without the cute little Jordan Tate haircut, she wasn't recognizable). Katherine Heigl went on to become "somebody" (if you were a fan of Roswell, anyhow). Jill Henessey, very recognizable from Law and Order and Crossing Jordan (what happened to that series, anyhow? They left it on a cliffhanger last season, making me think it was coming back).

Oh, and that one in Hard to Kill - what was her name? Kelly something? :D

-TD, teasing Serena mercilessly

:D :p I knew when I first posted this I should have been more specific. I guess I should set the record straight, even though I can just picture some of you shaking your head in amazement. What I meant to say is that I never heard of them BEFORE they were in his films.

- Sharon Stone: I never heard of her before Above the Law. Of course, since then.........not a great actress, in my opinion, but I still like her in certain roles.
- Erika Eleniuk: Never heard of her before or after.
- Katherine Heigl: Ditto - never watched Roswell.
- Jill Henessey: Ditto - never watched Law and Order or Crossing Jordan.
- Kelly something: Ditto - except from what I've seen of her since I joined this site.

Serena - who can be serenely, mercifully oblivious at times ;) :D


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TDWoj

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Serena said:
:D :p I knew when I first posted this I should have been more specific. I guess I should set the record straight, even though I can just picture some of you shaking your head in amazement. What I meant to say is that I never heard of them BEFORE they were in his films.

- Sharon Stone: I never heard of her before Above the Law. Of course, since then.........not a great actress, in my opinion, but I still like her in certain roles.
- Erika Eleniuk: Never heard of her before or after.
- Katherine Heigl: Ditto - never watched Roswell.
- Jill Henessey: Ditto - never watched Law and Order or Crossing Jordan.
- Kelly something: Ditto - except from what I've seen of her since I joined this site.

Serena - who can be serenely, mercifully oblivious at times ;) :D

Ah, well, we can't ALL be popular culture junkies! That's supposing being a popular culture junkie is a good thing... oh, dear.... where's that Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator when I need one....

-TD, no hope for recovery popular culture junkie
 
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