The Art of Sambo

yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
Have any of you heard of the martial art Sambo? Well it originated in Russia and was said to evolve from the techniques of Judo and Jujitsu. Now, sambo is an olympic sport and becoming very popular throughout Russia and its people. I just wanted to know if any of you knew the differences between judo and sambo, and let me know; because it seems that everytime international competitions are held, the Americans and the Western World refer to the sport as judo, whereas the Eastern Europe refers to the sport as Sambo.

And one more thing, do any of have a Ph.D. in some discipline just so I know the diversity of people here and maybe ask more specific questions whenever the need arises.
 
Amos Stevens

Amos Stevens

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Found this about Judo & Sambo:

But basically the differences between sambo and judo are insignificant. In the matter of clothing, for example, samboists wear trunks and sneakers, and their belted jackets have lapels. Judo players, on the other hand, are barefooted, and they wear special pants. In sambo the vital grips are allowed on the opponent's arms and legs (only in a Iying position); in judo they are permitted only on the arms. Strangle holds are not permitted in sambo because "they are not sportsmanlike,' groin-kicks seem to be o.k. An encounter in sambo lasts 10 minutes. During this period one can accumulate points, and even if one loses this round one can "catch-up" in the playoff. A judo-round fluctuates between 3-7 minutes (according to a country's given set of rules), and the judo player can't "catch-up" in his points. Throws are also judged slightly differently. In judo throws are awarded points only if they are accomplished by a snatch off the mat and are "in flight" and one may fall with the opponent. All throws count in sambo, but the contestant must remain standing. Judo has the basic "three-second rule" whereby the contestant must release his grip intended to topple his opponent after this period. In sambo one can hold the grip to one's heart delight.
Of all the differences, slight as they may be, between judo and sambo, the Soviets admit one major difference— that of weight classes in sambo.

http://www.blackbeltmag.com/archives/blackbelt/1964/novdec64/sambo/sambo.html
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
thanks

thanks amos and jalu
i guess the weight classes were organized to make the sport more into an olympic style

i was just interested in this sort of thing, because the new russian president (Putin) is a proclaimed multi time russian and european champion in judo (along with being an ex-KGB agent), but it's strange how he's russian and everybody calls him a judoist and not someone of sambo practice
 
B

Beyond Hope

New Member
I recall reading an interview with "Judo" Gene LeBell Where he stated that Sambo has a greater emphasis on knee bars and ankle locks, which is prohibited in Judo.
Bare in mind, if you are grappling someone who posseses greater upper body strength than you do, going for a knee bar can be a very good stategy.
Respectfully,
Beyond
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
2 Sambo styles (not including the sambo dance)

Thanks guys for the replies. I've been doing some studying on Sambo lately, and found it very fascinating. There are two types of Sambo, the olympic and the combat (street) version. The olympic style is just like what you have all been mentioning (since there are rules that apply, but lately the judges stick to either one of the two - judo or sambo; not both for the same olympics).

The combat Sambo is a very agressive martial art (where olympic Sambo is more of a sport) designed for defense; and is taught at many police academies and as a way of combat training in some armies internationally (especially in Russia, and the former Soviet republics). Sambo to police in Russia is like Krav Maga to Israeli forces.

This street-version of Sambo is designed to quickly disarm the criminal, and is becoming very popular throughout the United States.
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
Have any of you heard of the martial art Sambo? Well it originated in Russia and was said to evolve from the techniques of Judo and Jujitsu. Now, sambo is an olympic sport and becoming very popular throughout Russia and its people. I just wanted to know if any of you knew the differences between judo and sambo, and let me know; because it seems that everytime international competitions are held, the Americans and the Western World refer to the sport as judo, whereas the Eastern Europe refers to the sport as Sambo.

And one more thing, do any of have a Ph.D. in some discipline just so I know the diversity of people here and maybe ask more specific questions whenever the need arises.
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Yes I am aware of the Russian grappling art Sambo. I believe it has evovled more into a means of sport like Wu Shu, Tae Kwon Do, Judo than a practical self defense martial art. As far as grappling goes I believe Brazillian Ju Jitsu is by far the most sufficient, but I think the BEST martial artist must be an expert in grappling as well as kicking like Bruce Lee.

His art Jeet Kune Do never was set on just one focused style, imo JKD is by far the most practical for street fights, it has striking, boxing, grappling, trapping etc...
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
2 styles

littledragon

Sambo has 2 styles, one is a self-defnse/combat for quick disengagement of an oncoming or potential threat. It is taught to the Russian police and in the military, and is actually getting to be quite popular in U.S. The judo-type Sambo has very little differences, and is an olympic event.
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
littledragon

Sambo has 2 styles, one is a self-defnse/combat for quick disengagement of an oncoming or potential threat. It is taught to the Russian police and in the military, and is actually getting to be quite popular in U.S. The judo-type Sambo has very little differences, and is an olympic event.
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I am aware of that now Yudansha after being more familularized with the Grappling Arts. ;)
 
pantera

pantera

New Member
I don't know a lot about sambo and amos stevens already answered the question. But i can share my experience of judo and i will tell ya that if sambo is a mix of judo and ju-juitsu, there are differences. In judo ya've got a lot of stranglings even with th legs but in this case ya must always have an arm in the legs while ya strangle someone. About the arm-locks ya can just do it on the elebows and not on the shoulders, the knees or the wrists. In ju-juitsu it's quite different, the range of possibilities is bigger and it exits the atemis too. So judo is quite restricted now. Probably sambo has also more possibilities than judo.
 
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Aikilove

Old member aikidoka
You asked if anyone had a Ph. D.? Well I'm working to present my dissertation in a year or two from now in physics... How that will help you in a MA forum I don't know... but you asked.

/J
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
pantera said:
I don't know a lot about sambo and amos stevens already answered the question. But i can share my experience of judo and i will tell ya that if sambo is a mix of judo and ju-juitsu, there are differences. In judo ya've got a lot of stranglings even with th legs but in this case ya must always have an arm in the legs while ya strangle someone. About the arm-locks ya can just do it on the elebows and not on the shoulders, the knees or the wrists. In ju-juitsu it's quite different, the range of possibilities is bigger and it exits the atemis too. So judo is quite restricted now. Probably sambo has also more possibilities than judo.
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As far as ground grappling goes I feel Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu is the best grappling art.
 
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