What styles are the best for self-defense/ street situations?

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Pyro Pete

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I'd say...the best defense in the streets, is to use 'Pratical Aikido' and 'Washu'.
These style's are quick, and deadly to all who oppose you. Never use Karate, unless
your against ONE person,...not 7. In my training, I'v learned that the moves you make,
need to be the moves you use to take the person down...the first time, only. Don't try to use smart-ass moves that look flashy, unless your Jet Li, or Seagal himself. Only use
the moves that you think will take that person down...fast!! But if your well-trained, what the hell! Use what you were taught. ;)
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
Wushu! Yes!

"Don't try to use smart-ass moves that look flashy, unless your Jet Li, or Seagal himself."

I agree! What style are you trained in, Pete?
Have you ever heard of a wu-shu stylist Jamal Ajigirei?
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
Here are some styles I think are the most effective in Street Self-Defense.

AIKIDO- Great when dealing with multiple attackers
GRACIE JIU-JITSU- 95% of street fights end up on the ground and size dimenishes when you are on the ground and you can immobilize your opponent very quickly
KYUKOSHIN KARATE- A hard core Karate style that is not bound in tradition
MUAY-THAI- A very effective martial art when used on the street, one Muay Thai kick to the nerve in the thigh then your opponent is out, also you are able to use elbows and knees in that style.
JEET KUNE DO- In my opinion a very elite martial art created by Bruce Lee, combinding everything from Grappling to Tae Kwon Do this style has everything you need on the street.
 
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Pyro Pete

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Thanks, Yudansha! The styles I am trained in, are of course, Karate, Juijitsu, Praticle Aikido, and now I am starting to learn, Washu, that is very special in fights...mostly street-fighting. But, I was trained in JROTC (Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps) witch in tern, helped me understand how to ignore pain, but our commander taught us
most of these martial arts. Don't worry...I'm not in the army, only in a High School combat/martial arts school, that teaches our troop alot...and it's very helpful.
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
Pyro Pete said:
Thanks, Yudansha! The styles I am trained in, are of course, Karate, Juijitsu, Praticle Aikido, and now I am starting to learn, Washu, that is very special in fights...mostly street-fighting. But, I was trained in JROTC (Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps) witch in tern, helped me understand how to ignore pain, but our commander taught us
most of these martial arts. Don't worry...I'm not in the army, only in a High School combat/martial arts school, that teaches our troop alot...and it's very helpful.
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Did you mean Wu-Shu??
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
... because wu-shu is a kung-fu style ...
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But Wu-Shu mainly emphasizes on forms and weapons no street self defense or sparring.

I took it for 3 years and quit because really it was just a sport and form of exercise not a form for self defense.
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
There are immense amounts of self-defense techniques.

In traditional training, you don't get to the weapons portion until you've gone well through the techniques (the forms for defense) ... the forms you learn aren't for show (never were ... although they're impressive and fascinate the onlooking crowd).
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
In traditional training, you don't get to the weapons portion until you've gone well through the techniques (the forms for defense) ... the forms you learn aren't for show (never were ... although they're impressive and fascinate the onlooking crowd).
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Well I just don't agree with you on that one sorry, I trained under a Wu-Shu world champion who was peers with Jet Li at the Beijeng Wu Shu academy and they never said anything about forms for self defense, I agree that many forms have self defense movies contained in them but Wu Shu forms were just for show, unless I see a Wu Shu stylist defend himself in a street fight then I will be convinced.
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
You may not agree ... that's fine with me.

From what I've seen and done, it's very practical and effective.
That three years training ... how long ago was that? ... when you're young you wouldn't be taught the more advanced levels of training.

At early stages, the beginners just get used to the acrobatics of the art.
Like Jackie Chan said about TKD as well ... that first black belts are only prepared for the next level where the effectiveness of the art is...
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
From what I've seen and done, it's very practical and effective.
That three years training ... how long ago was that? ... when you're young you wouldn't be taught the more advanced levels of training.

At early stages, the beginners just get used to the acrobatics of the art.
Like Jackie Chan said about TKD as well ... that first black belts are only prepared for the next level where the effectiveness of the art is...
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Because Wu-Shu is JUST forms I really just dont think it is a very effective Martial Art for the street.
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
O.K. DON'T think that, DON'T be ready for it, BE ignorant to it...

Wu-shu is a martial arts style. It's not JUST for show if you've only seen it as parts of the act in shows.
It's like me telling you that Ninjutsu is JUST for show since I have only seen it in movies.
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
Wu-shu is a martial arts style. It's not JUST for show if you've only seen it as parts of the act in shows.
It's like me telling you that Ninjutsu is JUST for show since I have only seen it in movies.
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I just dont see any emphasizes for self defense situations Wu Shu is you just practice forms and weaponry and the instruction they never emphasize saying this is what you would do if someone does this to you, you warm up, stretch, warm up with kicks and practice the forms and weapons.

Sorry Yudansha I really dont see why you think Wu Shu is good for the street.
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
Why? Because I've been studying Wu-shu...

It's good. It's not just a fun way to spend time and 'twirl some toys around.'
Maybe you should look into it some more. It might get you interested again ... if not, that's fine by me.

Wu-shu trains one in agility, endurance, and reflexes. Don't tell me that's not good basis for a martial arts system that's not effective for street defense!

Do what you will. Don't be ready for it and that will be your weakness.
 
Littledragon

Littledragon

Above The Law
yudansha said:
It's good. It's not just a fun way to spend time and 'twirl some toys around.'
Maybe you should look into it some more. It might get you interested again ... if not, that's fine by me.

Wu-shu trains one in agility, endurance, and reflexes. Don't tell me that's not good basis for a martial arts system that's not effective for street defense!

Do what you will. Don't be ready for it and that will be your weakness.
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I know you do it thats why I would think you are standing up for it, what exactly do they teach to prepare for a self defense/street situation?

Besides agility endurance and reflexes because you could say that about any sport, lets say tennis.
 
yudansha

yudansha

TheGreatOne
LOL you've got a good sense of humour ...

... that's not the kind of reflexes I'm talking about...

The beginners start out (this is how I've trained) building up neglect for pain. Instead of punching bags, you'd be given specially moulded walls to punch for half an hour. Then, they'd put you in different stances to build up some muscle (since you're a beginner) ... especially for legs ... then you'd be doing push-ups to exercise your heart while working some muscle groups in your arms to warm up. Between each, you are given rest for not more than 30 seconds. Then, you'd be asked to lie on the mat while the instructors walk on you and stand on you (imagine an over 150lb assistant standing on a 10 year old beginner) ... you'd be lined up lying down with your classmates and the assistants would walk from one person to the next. (ofcourse some 'praying' and meditation ... I still don't get what they were saying in those).

When forms are taught, they are perfected. The sifu doesn't do more than 2 or 3 forms per class. Emphasis is on repetition. The forms are then practiced in a situation where another student must get at you and you'd use the just practiced technique.

Wu-shu is very acrobatic (fluid motions occuring in a swift manner), but the way I was taught, it was also a way to build up strength.
 
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