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Bounty - Steven Seagal, Michael Jai White

DiDa

Super Moderator
Staff member
#24
I take it seagal would play lincoln which is good hopefully get a chance to do some fights which he did not do on his last film beyond the law

However hes not listed in the cast on the hannibal website so has he dropped out of the film
This was on the website long ago. They are talking about a start date in December 2019. So I guess Seagal joined the cast later.
It has popped up on The Film Catalogue last month and Seagal is still attached here.

https://www.thefilmcatalogue.com/films/bounty

Also Michael Merino didn't mention to me that Seagal has dropped out, the last time I chat with him.
So hopefully he is still attached.
 

Nick

The Writer
#25
This was on the website long ago. They are talking about a start date in December 2019. So I guess Seagal joined the cast later.
It has popped up on The Film Catalogue last month and Seagal is still attached here.

https://www.thefilmcatalogue.com/films/bounty

Also Michael Merino didn't mention to me that Seagal has dropped out, the last time I chat with him.
So hopefully he is still attached.
What is with that Poster... Michael Jay White? Jai... perhaps lol That's just lazy. Talk about an oversight.
 
#27
Is this a real thing? I bet Seagal films for like 2 days so barely appears and does nothing at all apart from sit around whispering to himself most of the time. Hope he puts in the effort.
 

Nick

The Writer
#28
Is this a real thing? I bet Seagal films for like 2 days so barely appears and does nothing at all apart from sit around whispering to himself most of the time. Hope he puts in the effort.
I think the effort days are over. The films where he seemed to try a bit more came right after Exit Wounds. At least in the Physical Movement department. If I am recalling this correctly. I am not even sure when the Sit Down Roles started. But they certainly did start at some point or another. It became Steven sitting in a restaurant scene, or another couch in another mansion or a truck. They started to blend in. That infamous trench coat I wanted to burn in a bonfire got replaced with the tacky tactical glasses and that tactical outfit with the usual addition of a bandana. Who does his wardrobe? Does he just insist on looking exactly the same in every film? At least create an illusion of a difference by changing up your outfits. Oh, look another shoot out terribly choreographed in another warehouse lol Bruce Willis knocking those same films back like Seagal in early 2000s.

Let's see, though. I am not holding my breath, especially not after seeing a sequel to Sudden Death with Michael Jai White. Not JAY. I mean, what in the world was that... Marrese Crump totally wasted. He was the best thing about Protector 2 with Tony Jaa. That sequel was just terrible. Compared to the masterpiece of action, part one was. Young me used to see these great action stars collaborate, and I foolishly thought Seagal wouldn't dare waste people like Gary Daniels or Ken Lo. I was very wrong, and I learned quickly that he just wants to slap them and fling them out of windows. The issue is the lack of effort, choreography and general care. And I say this as a fan for over 20-25 years now. The only guy who really tries in the DTV market is Scott Adkins. Like him, don't like him, he cares. Watch his interviews. He has heart. He is passionate. Even though he is stuck in crappy DTV market. I know he has a film with Seagal coming up, but ugh I don't even know. He probably took it for a chance to meet Steven. I think he probably kept his expectations to a realistic level. Especially after the Van Damme fiasco. He learned. Van Damme did not want to create fights like his 80s 90s films. Even back in early 2000s.

P.S. I'd also like to argue that post 1996 he just stopped carrying about his weight. Which is fine, to a degree, but not when you are trying to create credible action films and actually you know realistically fight people, dodge bullets and cause the typical mayhem to your enemies we are used to from older classic films. Even with these so called Bigger Budgets, Seagal still wasn't skinny in Exit Wounds. I know we often talk about bigger budgets. Bigger budgets should equal better films and more care put forth. But I don't think Seagal cares enough about that. Look at Into The Sun. Same exact problem. Van Damme uses doubles. I get it. He also doesn't care that much, but he never used voice doubles, he is usually not sitting around and he at least looks the part. He is in great shape for his age. I can't say the same about Seagal. His weight was already bothering me as far back as Under Siege 2 and On Deadly Ground. When you are the largest guy in the room, I have a bit of an issue believing you can even get up from your chair.

I wish he would listen to constructive criticism. We could have had greater films for the past twenty years. But as long as he has fans like this, which I found on FB I guess his head is in the clouds:

"YES!!!!!!! I can I wait!!! Steven Seagall, every movie you have been in is great! Always full of action!" Seagal* lol
 
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J.Lucas

Active Member
#29
I wish he would listen to constructive criticism. We could have had greater films for the past twenty years. But as long as he has fans like this, which I found on FB I guess his head is in the clouds:l
His head isn't in the clouds, he knows what's going on...he said the only reason he makes these movies is for a paycheck,
seriously if you got 1-2 million dollars for 2-3 days work wouldn't you do it?
shoot your scenes then let them edit in them where they see fit.
Don't get the auidio on the first time, ..just get someone else to over dub it.
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Personally I think he gave up on movie making after the critics blasted On Deadly Ground,
after that he lost any control and had to do what the studio beckoned..they did give him a send off by letting him do Fire Down Below which I think also flopped..
also lost his wife in the same year.
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you can see his 'rise and fall' in a period of 10 years
 
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Nick

The Writer
#30
His head isn't in the clouds, he knows what's going on...he said the only reason he makes these movies is for a paycheck,
seriously if you got 1-2 million dollars for 2-3 days work wouldn't you do it?
shoot your scenes then let them edit in them where they see fit.
Don't get the auidio on the first time, ..just get someone else to over dub it.
--
Personally I think he gave up on movie making after the critics blasted On Deadly Ground,
after that he lost any control and had to do what the studio beckoned..they did give him a send off by letting him do Fire Down Below which I think also flopped..
also lost his wife in the same year.
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you can see his 'rise and fall' in a period of 10 years
Would I do this? Ok, well let's examine the situation. If I was a starving artist, perhaps. If I was an already established action star like Seagal and I had a few millions, could get into Producing perhaps Writing Scripts, doing Action Choreography, or even manage rising new action stars... No I would not. I have integrity. And I worry about my legacy. I am a writer, let's say I established myself, and some publisher offered me a quickie writing job for a few million. Would I turn it down? You bet. If I already had money and could survive, I certainly would turn it down. People like De Niro and Pacino disgust me. I am a huge fan of both of their early work, but boy oh boy. Look at the trash they've been making for the past twenty years, all for a paycheck. I refuse to believe 20 years doesn't tarnish someones legacy to some extent.

I would love to see that interview where he actually admits to this. It sounds like a fascinating read. A man with an ego the size of an elephant admitting he is actually making schlock. A curious read, I am sure. On par with Michael Caine saying he did Jaws 4 for a fee vacation.
 
#32
i have write a pitch for Seagal and a plot..i hope he returns with style..
jai white is a good actor..i dnt know why Seagal was acid talkin about him!

You don´t know?
Then you´re not a Seagal expert. Get informed and watch "The Voice vs Michael Jai White."

The interviewer Michael Schiavello held up 3 pictures(Kimbo, Slice, Van Damme and Seagal) and asked Michael Jai White who he liked to punch out.

Jai White replied: Seagal.