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Amos Stevens

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Oklahoma City survivors rebuild their lives

April 19, 2005 — Ten years ago today, chaos erupted in Oklahoma City when Timothy McVeigh's truck bomb destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, killing 168 people.

But the city and the survivors have been rebuilding, and in many ways, have become stronger than ever.



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"It seems like another place and another time. This is a completely different city," said Mayor Mick Cornett.


City on the Mend

At first, the divorce rate tripled among rescuers who witnessed the carnage and the suicide rate jumped. Now there is a new ballpark, a new downtown and 100,000 new residents.

"We cannot allow our past to poison our future," said Jack Poe, an Oklahoma City chaplain. "I think we've all chosen here in Oklahoma City that we're going to get better."

The survivors agree. Amy Petty worked on the third floor of the federal building. She was buried under rubble for six hours. But she is one of the lucky ones: Eighteen of her 33 co-workers were killed.

"I miss them dearly," Petty said. "That doesn't mean that I need to stop living my life. I've got to live."


'Touched by God'

Perhaps the most tragic images and stories to come out of the bombing were of the children who were killed. Dozens of children attended a day care center on the second floor of the building. Only six survived.

P.J. Allen was one of the most severely injured of those six survivors. Just 20 months old, he was thrown dozens of feet through debris and fire.

No one knows how he survived.

"When I was in the bombing, I was wrapped in fire," P.J. said. "I had second- and third-degree burns and they said I wasn't going to live, but God came and he healed me.

"I learned what it feels to have God actually touch you."


A Father Feeling Helpless

Christopher Nguyen, who began high school this year, was the third child rescued from the building. He suffered burns, a broken jaw, and cuts and bruises to his head and body.

Most Most people don't ever have to go through this, so they don't know what it's like to have to worry about almost dying," he said.



Chris' father, Thu Nguyen, remembers the first moment he saw his son after the bombing — the 4-year-old lying in a hospital bed, his skin burned off, debris lodged in his body.



"I never forget that day," he said. "The feeling of a father, helpless."



Injuries a Constant Reminder


Lavern McCloud's daughter, Nekia, is 14 now. The girl with the sweet smile and gentle disposition doesn't say much. Nekia suffered severe brain trauma as a result of the blast. She is developmentally delayed and attends special-needs classes.



"She was walking and talking, you know, at 4 years old," McCloud said. "And after that [the bombing] happened she had to relearn everything all over — how to walk, talk and everything."



P.J.'s wounds are also very much present. Though the 11-year-old doesn't recall that day, his injuries are still obvious — the scar on his throat, his labored breathing and his quiet voice recall the tube he wore for nine years.



The tube was recently removed, allowing him to attend public school for the first time. But he says he will always wear his scars like a badge of honor.



For Christopher, it's his heart that bears the scars of the bombing.



"I looked at the chairs of three friends of ours who died at such a young age and it was unbearable, and we couldn't stop crying," he said.




Grateful for the Simple Things


All of the survivors say the experience taught them valuable lessons, especially how to have gratitude for the simple things.



McCloud says of her daughter: "Just to have her here. You know, that's a double blessing."



Christopher says he learned to never take life for granted, because it can be taken away so easily.



P.J., who was told that he would never talk or sing again and is now doing both, believes that, in many ways, the bombing changed his life for the better.



"My life is kind of different because of the bombing, so that means that since most people haven't been through what I've been through, that makes me think that I have something special to do in the future," he said.

Copyright © 2005 ABC News Internet Ventures
 

Amos Stevens

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Az bans junk food in schools

Arizona Bans Junk Food in Schools

Tue Apr 26, 2:07 PM ET Health - AP



PHOENIX - Gov. Janet Napolitano signed into law
Tuesday a ban on the sale of junk food in Arizona's
elementary, middle and junior high schools.



The measure, which takes effect in 2006, is aimed at
candy, soft drinks and other sugary or fatty snacks.
It would not affect sales of junk food before or after
school hours, such as during athletic events.


The bill was backed by health groups and the state
school superintendent as a way to combat obesity and
promote good nutrition. Critics called it an intrusion
on school districts' authority.


In a compromise, high schools were exempted from the
ban.
 

Amos Stevens

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Surrogate mom gives birth to quints

Surrogate mom gives birth to quints
>
> Kerry Fehr-Snyder and David J. Cieslak
> The Arizona Republic
> Apr. 26, 2005 11:50 AM
>
> A Mesa woman who carried quintuplets as a surrogate
> mother delivered all five baby boys Tuesday morning,
> bringing a joyful end to several tense and dramatic
> months.
>
> With 10 doctors and 15 nurses in the delivery room,
> 25-year-old Teresa Anderson began the Caesarian
> delivery at 7:31 a.m. The first baby, Enrique,
> arrived
> at 7:35 a.m., with the last baby coming at 7:40.
>
> With each delivery at Banner Good Samaritan Medical
> Center in Phoenix, Dr. John Elliott, director of
> maternal-fetal medicine at the hospital, held up the
> babies for parents Luisa Gonzalez and her husband,
> Enrique Moreno. When the final baby came, Elliott
> joked, "One more and we're all set." advertisement
>
>
>
>
> Luisa touched the foot of each baby as they were
> delivered and cried as she looked at each of the
> quints, who were collectively rushed to an intensive
> care unit after the delivery.
>
> Anderson was laughing and joking about having more
> children.
>
> "I can't believe I can see my babies now," Luisa
> said,
> as she stood beside the smallest baby's bassinet.
> Luisa and Enrique took turns holding one of the
> babies
> in the Intensive Care Unit, where the newborn will
> remain for about a month until they make strong
> enough
> progress to go home."I feel great," Anderson said
> moments after her surgery was finished. "I thought
> it
> was amazing. It was just a wonderful blessing to see
> those babies and hear their cries."
>
> "She smiled through the whole case," Elliott said of
> Anderson. "She was comfortable and it (the delivery)
> just couldn't have gone better. It (the delivery)
> was
> a lot of people involved, but everybody knew their
> job
> and did it well."
>
> The babies ranged in weight from 3 lbs 7 ounces to 3
> pounds 14.8 ounces.
>
> One of the babies has been diagnosed with a rare
> heart
> defect that will require immediate testing and
> surgery
> within a few days. That baby, named Javier, was born
> at 3 pounds, 7 ounces, slightly more than the weight
> he needed to be for an emergency catheterization
> procedure, which will be performed Wednesday at the
> earliest. It's done to improve the blood flow and
> oxygenation until the first surgery on the heart can
> be performed.
>
> The names of the other three boys are Victor, Jorge
> and Gilbert.
>
> On Monday, doctors moved up the Mesa woman's
> delivery
> date after determining that her condition and the
> health of the babies would be in danger by waiting
> until next week
>
> Anderson, 25, who agreed to carry the babies for the
> infertile Gilbert couple, has been hospitalized for
> the past week after experiencing labor pains.
>
> Although her contractions had been controlled by an
> intravenous drip of magnesium sulfate, the
> medication
> was no longer working. She also developed
> pre-eclampsia,a potentially serious condition in
> which
> a woman's blood pressure soars, she experiences
> uncontrollable swelling and sometimes her liver
> can't
> function.
>
> Her pregnancy went for 33 weeks, about a week short
> of
> what doctors had hoped.
>
> Elliott said Anderson was both relieved by the early
> delivery and disappointed that she could not hold
> out
> until next Monday, as planned. But waiting any
> longer
> than today could have been dangerous, he said.
>
> "It's medically necessary. Even though she's
> disappointed that she couldn't make it 34 weeks,
> she's
> glad what she's had to do is over," he said.
>
> Anderson has delivered four healthy babies of her
> own
> but one at a time. She gave up her first two
> children
> for adoption. She later married and had two more
> children, both girls, who are 3 and 4 years old.
>
> Anderson initially hoped to be paid $15,000 as a
> "gestational surrogate." She met Louisa and Enrique
> after buying an ad on a surrogacy Web site
> advertising
> her services.
>
> What she and her husband, Jerad, and the Gilbert
> couple didn't know was that all five of the couple's
> fertilized embryos implanted in Anderson would
> become
> viable fetuses. Both couples agreed not to abort any
> of the babies, something known as "selective
> reduction."
>
> Jerad Anderson, a 27-year-old U.S. Postal Service
> employee, was visibly nervous this morning before
> his
> wife underwent the procedure.
>
> "You never know if there could be complications so
> I'm
> just kind of worried about the possible
> consequences,"
> said Jerad, who was smiling and appeared relieved
> after the procedure.
>
> Anderson also decided not to take any money from the
> couple because of the expense of raising five
> babies.
>
> If all goes well, Anderson is expected to be
> released
> from the hospital Sunday.
>
>
>
> Copyright © 2005, azcentral.com. >
 

Amos Stevens

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Treasure hunting time

$100,000 treasure found in back yard in Methuen, Mass.

By Associated Press



METHUEN, Mass. - It’s the stuff of fantasies, and Tim Crebase found it buried under two feet of earth in his own backyard.
There, he and friend Barry Villcliff found a box stuffed with cash and gold and silver certificates, some more than a century old. The buried treasure is worth more than $100,000, according to a coin shop owner who looked at it.

"I was thinking, ‘I’ve never seen anything like this in my life,"’ Domenic Mangano, owner of Village Coin Shop in Plaistow, N.H., told The Boston Globe.

Crebase said the find came three weeks ago when he and Villcliff were trying to dig up a small tree in Crebase’s yard. Crebase, 23, heard a thud as he tried to get at the roots and saw that he’d hit a piece of wood. Another look, and he saw the wood was part of a two-foot wide box.

He ripped the top off and found nine rusted cans that he and Villcliff, 27, of Manchester, N.H., cracked open to find about 1,800 bills, including more than 900 $1 bills, 200 $2 bills, and 300 $20 bills dated from 1899 to 1929. There were also piles of gold and silver certificates and scores of notes from local banks in Methuen, Haverhill, Amesbury, Newburyport and beyond.

They took the stash to Mangano’s shop later that day.

"I’m a pessimist; I was waiting until I got a professional review before I jumped to any conclusions," Villcliff said. "Tim, however, was singing and dancing. He was ranting like a rabid monkey."

Mangano said he knew the bills were genuine because fake bills look purposely aged.

None of the men know why the money was hidden in Crebase’s yard, but they have theories. It could be robbery proceeds, profits hoarded from bootlegging during Prohibition or maybe the savings of immigrants who didn’t trust the local banks.


Copyright © 2005 Seacoast Online.
 

Serena

Administrator
Cool story, Amos! :) It's a nice break from all the bad news we see so much of.
And there's a lesson here--get out and work in your yard this spring. :D
 

Serena

Administrator
Amos Stevens said:
Surrogate mom gives birth to quints
That's quite an amazing thing, even in this day and age. I hope they all make it through without having to undergo too much. And how wonderful of this woman to decline accepting the money. I don't imagine many others would.

Thanks, Amos. :)



1) Baby D Javier Anderson Moreno is photographed at Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center in Phoenix, Arizona, April 26, 2005. Teresa Anderson, a surrogate mother, delivered the babies Tuesday morning, about a week ahead of schedule but still a week later than doctors originally had hoped.

2) Baby E #5 Victor Anderson Moreno.
 

Amos Stevens

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Thanks for posting the photos Serena...look at that kid SCREAM :)
They had a follow up on the news today & the new mother thought it a thrill to change her first diaper..geez,ask her that in a few months :) In a 24 hour period the nurse said they have already gone thru 40 diapers :)
 

Amos Stevens

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Missing Georgia bride to be found with cold feet

Missing Georgia Bride-To-Be Found with Cold Feet
Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:54 AM ET

ATLANTA (Reuters) - A Georgia woman who vanished just
days before her wedding, triggering a nationwide
search, was found on Saturday more than 1,400 miles
away in New Mexico after falsely claiming she had been
abducted, police and friends of her family said.
Jennifer Wilbanks, a 32-year-old medical assistant,
called her family early Saturday morning, saying she
had been kidnapped while jogging on Tuesday night and
taken to New Mexico, where she was released.

She soon recanted her story, telling police in
Albuquerque, New Mexico, that she had fled Georgia by
bus because she was scared about her upcoming
nuptials, according to Randall Belcher, the police
chief in Duluth.

Wilbanks was supposed to marry fiance John Mason on
Saturday in front of more than 500 guests.

"Jennifer was a runaway bride," Alan Jones, a youth
pastor and friend of the couple, said in a televised
news conference in Duluth. "Jennifer is alive and
well, and we're all thankful for that."

"Jennifer needs help," said Jones, who added that
Mason had forgiven his bride-to-be. Police have not
said whether they intend to charge Wilbanks for the
hoax.

© Reuters 2005.
 

TDWoj

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Only in Canada, eh....

First it was the Moosehead beer; now N.B. thieves targeting lobsters

FREDERICTON (CP) - Thieves in New Brunswick seem to have developed a taste for at least two of the province's most prized products - beer and lobster.

After the intrigue of the Moosehead beer heist last summer, in which a truckload of brew was spirited away from Saint John, robbers now have made off two tractor-trailer loads of frozen lobster. The lobster, worth about $250,000, was ready for shipment from a warehouse owned by GEM Fisheries of Saint-Simon on New Brunswick's Acadian peninsula when it was stolen early Sunday morning.

One of the trucks was later found in Montreal, but it was empty. Police are still looking for the second truck and the frozen lobster.

"It was a carefully planned theft," Steve Foulem, general manager of the GEM Fisheries, said in an interview Monday.

"We recorded it all on our security cameras. It's like watching a scene from (the TV crime series) CSI or something."

Foulem said two of the thieves can be seen on the videotape. One was disguised, but the other was not.

He said he did not recognize the man.

"Everything was organized before they came here," he said. "It's too big to just happen like that."

Foulem said the lobster was supposed to be shipped to Boston on Monday.

He said the product is marked with his company's labels. But he said it appears the thieves had buyers lined up for the lobster, and he doubts he will see it again.

Police are asking people to be on the lookout for a truck with the GEM name on its side.

As for the stolen beer, the RCMP in New Brunswick failed to recover most of 50,000 cans stolen in a dramatic heist last August.

The beer was supposed to be delivered from the Moosehead brewery in Saint John, N.B., to Etobicoke, Ont., but the truck never made it.

Instead, the tractor-trailer was found with less than 300 cans of beer and the engine running in a parking lot in Grand Falls, N.B.

Wade Haines, a truck driver from Fredericton who sent a birthday card to an ex-girlfriend signed "the beer bandit," was later found guilty of theft over $5,000.

The beer was intended for the Mexican market. The cans were labelled in Spanish.

Police said that although Haines was the only person charged and convicted, other people were involved.
 

Amos Stevens

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Driver arrested with 7 in car & 2 children in trunk

Driver arrested with 7 in car, 2 more in trunk
Calif. police hold mom on suspicion of cruelty to kids
Calif. - A woman was arrested after the California Highway Patrol officer who pulled her car over found nine people crammed inside, including two children in the trunk.

“I have never heard of this,” said Officer Wendy Hahn. “There was no room left in the car, so she puts two of the kids in the trunk. We’re trying to get people to buckle up, and this is what we find.”

Lavern Dunlap, 35, of Glendora, was pulled over about 8 p.m. Friday after another driver reported seeing a woman closing the trunk of her Toyota Corolla with two children inside as the vehicle sat parked on a shoulder.

Dunlap told the officer she was heading to her sister’s house in Palmdale, about a 60-mile trip.

The officer discovered a 15-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl in the trunk, four children in the back seat, an adult in the front passenger seat with a child on her lap and Dunlap behind the wheel. No one was wearing a seat belt, she said.

Dunlap was booked on suspicion of child cruelty and was released. She is scheduled to appear next month in court.

© 2005 The Associated Press.
 

TDWoj

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We seem to have more serial killers per capita than the U.S. Here's the story on another one....

Robert Pickton facing 12 new murder charges

CTV.ca News Staff

Accused B.C. serial killer Robert Pickton is facing 12 new first-degree murder charges, bringing the total number of charges against him to 27.

Pickton, 55, had already been facing 15 charges of first-degree murder in connection to women missing from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.

The new charges were laid in B.C. Supreme Court in New Westminster today.

Seven of the new charges arose from Pickton's preliminary hearing, which began in January 2003 and concluded six months later. Those charges relate to the deaths of:

* Marnie Frey
* Tiffany Drew
* Sarah Devries
* Cynthia Feliks
* Angela Jardine
* Diana Melnick
* An unidentified woman

Five new charges came from evidence developed since that preliminary hearing. Indictments filed in court Wednesday indicate those charges relate to the deaths of:

* Cara Ellis
* Andrea Borhaven
* Kerry Koski
* Wendy Crawford
* Debra Lynne Jones

Some of the family members of the victims were informed Tuesday that the new charges would be coming.

The trial, before a jury, isn't expected to start until next January.

CTV's Todd Battis, reporting from New Westminister, said that date could be pushed back even further as the case gets into pre-trial motions this fall.

That portion of the trial would be conducted under a publication ban.

Pickton, a former pig farmer from suburban Port Coquitlam, has been in custody since his arrest Feb. 7, 2002, when police descended on the farm and property he owned with his family.
 

Amos Stevens

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Big Ben falls silent for more than an hour

Big Ben falls silent for more than an hour

PTI[ SATURDAY, MAY 28, 2005 09:03:10 PM]
Surf 'N' Earn -Sign innow
LONDON: Big Ben, the 147-year-old clock on the banks
of the River Thames famous for its accuracy and
chimes, stopped ticking for more than hour, and
officials don't know why.

The problem occurred last night, the start of a
three-day weekend in Britain, silencing the clock near
Parliament, an engineer at the palace said on
Saturday.

The problem began at 10:07 pm. when Big Ben's minute
hand stopped. It began moving again slowly, then
stalled a second time at 10:20 pm. and remained still
for 90 minutes before starting up again, the engineer
said.

Some speculated that hot weather may have been to
blame. Temperatures in London reached a high of 31.8C
on Saturday, and forecasters called it England's
hottest day in May since 1953.

But the engineer at the Palace of Westminster, which
operates the clock, said the cause was unclear. "We've
been told there was a minor glitch, but then it was
started up again," he said.

Big Ben is renowned for its accuracy and even survived
attacks by Luftwaffe bombers during the Second World
War, continuing to mark the time within one and a half
seconds of GMT. However, it has had problems from time
to time.

In 1962 snow caused the clock to ring in the New Year
10 minutes late, and in 1976 the clock stopped when a
piece of its machinery broke. Big Ben also ground to a
halt on April 30, 1997, and once more three weeks
later.

Big Ben is the name of the clock's 13-ton cell, which
was named after Sir Benjamin Hall, the British
commisioner of works at the time of the clock's
construction. The official name for the Gothic tower
in which Big Ben nestles is St. Sephen's Tower
Standing 100 metres tall, it was completed in 1858,
after a fire in 1834 destroyed most of the Palace of
Wetminster.
 

Amos Stevens

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Rolling Thunder Ride gains Popularity

Rolling Thunder Ride Gains Popularity
By Stuart Cohen
Washington
27 May 2005


This weekend, hundreds of thousands of Vietnam vets on
motorcycles will rumble into the Washington area for
the 18th annual Rolling Thunder Ride for Freedom, to
highlight the plight of their fellow soldiers still
missing in Southeast Asia. Rolling Thunder has grown
steadily in popularity over the years, attracting more
and more younger and less politically oriented riders,
joining in for reasons far from what the organizers
would expect and ultimately diluting the protest
nature of the ride. In the end, could Rolling
Thunder's popularity be its downfall?

That's a familiar sound to Washingtonians every
Memorial Day weekend as hundreds of thousands of
motorcycles wind their way through the city, from the
Pentagon to the Vietnam Veterans' Memorial, as part of
the annual Rolling Thunder Ride for Freedom. Vietnam
vets come to DC from all over to the country to bring
attention to the issue of still missing POW's and
MIA's. But at last year's Rolling Thunder, not
everyone was riding for the cause.

“I'm just down here for the bike event,” says Joe
Bell. “It's my first time here and I'm really
enjoying it, something different. I've seen on TV for
years and I've been wanting to come here and finally I
bought a bike and it's my first time and I'm really
enjoying it.”

Joe Bell rode in from Waldorf, Maryland with his
friend Andy Parker who also had a different reason for
being there.

“Purely for the motorcycle part of it. Whilst I
respect the prisoner of war, missing in action side of
it, this is, for me, it's just a motorcycle thing.
I'm sure there's a few people like me that are here
just for the bike side of things,” he adds.

Rolling Thunder's been attracting those younger
riders, many with no connection at all to the Vietnam
War, just as the aging population of Vietnam vets is
getting less likely to make the cross country
motorcycle trip. But as far as the organizers are
concerned, that hasn't changed Rolling Thunder's POW,
MIA focus.

“It is a protest, it is a demonstration. It is not a
parade or a rally, it is really a protest to tell the
government they, they have not done enough on this
issue. You don't bring thousands and thousands of
bikes into town just to say ‘hi.’ You're there for
reason,” notes Artie Muller is Rolling Thunder's
founder and executive director.

He says he's not worried about the ride's changing
demographics.

“Yeah, we do get some that come there, they don't know
why they're there, all they know is there's a big ride
in DC, so they come and you know what? Hopefully we
educate,” he explains. “If we educate half of the
ones that come that didn't know why we were there we
gain some…and hopefully they'll come back for the
right reason next year. And they'll maybe tell other
people what went on there, why we've been there, what
we were there for.”

But according to Georgetown University history
professor, Michael Kazin, any political movement will
soften over time.

“There's a kind of a rule, perhaps, of demonstrations
and of movements, that the larger the movement gets,
the less edge it has, the less charged it is, the less
of a passionate protest it becomes, because, after
all, most people are not that political in their lives
and motorcyclists don't have that many occasions to
turn out and see 500,000 other motorcyclists,”
explains Mr. Kazin.

And Rolling Thunder has changed a lot over the years,
both officially and unofficially. The first year was
actually supposed to be a march, but 2,500 motorcycles
showed up along with 5,000 marchers. The next year
bikers outnumbered the marchers, and by the 4th
Rolling Thunder, they had completely dropped the idea
of a march. And now for many of the riders, veterans
and non-veterans alike, Rolling Thunder has become
bigger than just a Vietnam protest ride, it's annual
Memorial Day tribute.

Rider 1: “It's for all of the people who served. It
could be even the Civil War men, it's for whoever
served, I'm here to show my support and respect for
them.”

Rider 2: “I was not in Vietnam. As a matter of fact I
don't even know anybody who died there, that I'm aware
of. It's a representation really for me. This is how
I can say thank you to vets who have died in Vietnam
or in any other war. I think this is also a great
demonstration for my children that patriotism is not
something that goes away, and it's not something to be
taken lightly.”

Vietnam War historian and George Washington University
professor, Ronald Spector sees a day when rolling
thunder may lose its Vietnam connection. But he
doesn't think it will ever lose its memorial nature
and become just another biker event, like Daytona,
Florida's Annual Bike Week.

“Well I think… this is, if it isn't already, it's
going to become a kind of patriotic ritual and maybe
even a recreational event,” says Mr. Spector. “I
guess you can envision a day when you have the one
96-year-old Vietnam vet who can still get onto his
motorcycle and he's sort of surrounded by press
photographers and he has a special place in the
parade, and so on, but that's quite a ways off.”

Rolling Thunder founder Artie Muller, says he's ready
for a younger generation of veterans to start taking
over. But for him, the group's core POW and health
care issues are still alive.

“If you think that we lost our bite, our bite's always
there, we might be a little older, but we're certainly
going to give them hell,” says Muller.
 

Lollipop

Banned
Thanks Amos, I glad you all are keeping up with what is going on!

Td I never would have thought Canada would have more serial killers!

Serena thanks for those pictures, when I go to the hospital to visit someone I always like to go by the nursery, so many mother's now keep them in their own room, there is not alot in the nursery's any more!
 

Amos Stevens

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YOu're welcome Lollipop..I noticed that there isn't much nursery any more in the hospital-long ago..poor mothers get stuck with the kid before they even leave the hospital :)
 

Lollipop

Banned
Amos Stevens said:
YOu're welcome Lollipop..I noticed that there isn't much nursery any more in the hospital-long ago..poor mothers get stuck with the kid before they even leave the hospital :)

It is true with my first I wanted him all the time, with the second I would ring that red button and ask when do you intend to come get this baby!!
I want to go to sleep!! :D :D
 

Amos Stevens

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Elder Bush would like son Jeb to run for president

Elder Bush would like son Jeb to run for president
May 31, 2005

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - George Bush, the president's father, would like to see another Bush in the White House someday, saying on Tuesday that he would want his son Jeb to run for president when the timing is right.



Florida Governor Jeb Bush has repeatedly said he does not plan to run for president in 2008, trying to dampen speculation that another Bush could be on the next Republican ticket for the White House.

In an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live," former President Bush said he would want Jeb to run for president "someday," but now was not the time.

"The timing's wrong. The main thing is, he doesn't want to do it. Nobody believes that," Bush said.

But he and wife Barbara both said they believed Jeb, 52, did not want to run in the next presidential race.

Bush said he did not have a favorite candidate for the Republican nomination to succeed his son, President Bush.

Barbara Bush said she believed Senator and former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton would be the Democratic nominee in the 2008 presidential race. "I'm not going to vote for her, but I'm betting on her," she said.

© 2005 The New York Times Company
 

Lollipop

Banned
Deep Throat finally revealed!

Ex-FBI official:
I'm ‘Deep Throat’
Washington Post confirms
claim by agency's
former deputy director
The Associated Press
Updated: 9:38 p.m. ET May 31, 2005

Breaking a silence of 30 years, former FBI deputy director W. Mark Felt stepped forward Tuesday as Deep Throat, the secret Washington Post source that helped bring down President Nixon during the Watergate scandal.

Within hours, the paper confirmed his claim.

“It’s the last secret” of the story, said Ben Bradlee, the paper’s top editor at the time the riveting political drama played out three decades ago.

It tumbled out in stages during the day — first when a lawyer quoted Felt in a magazine article as having said he was the source; then when the former FBI man’s family issued a statement hailing him as a “great American hero.” Within hours, the newspaper confirmed Felt’s claim, ending one of the most enduring mysteries in American politics and journalism.

The scandal that brought Nixon’s resignation began with a burglary and attempted tapping of phones in Democratic offices at the Watergate office building during his 1972 re-election campaign. It went on to include disclosures of covert Nixon administration spying on and retaliating against a host of perceived enemies.

But the most devastating disclosure was Nixon’s own role in trying to cover up his administration’s involvement.


• Putting 'Deep Throat's' puzzle together
May 31: Guessing the identity of “Deep Throat” by trying to piece together clues had become an American obsession. Were the pieces of the puzzle there all along? NBC’s Bob Faw reports.

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‘I’m the guy ...’
“I’m the guy they used to call Deep Throat,” Felt, the former No. 2 man at the FBI, was quoted as saying in Vanity Fair.

He kept his secret even from his family for almost three decades before his declaration.

Felt, now 91, lives in Santa Rosa, Calif., and is said to be in poor mental and physical health because of a stroke. His family did not immediately make him available for comment, asking the news media to respect his privacy “in view of his age and health.”

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Former FBI official W. Mark Felt in 1973.
A grandson, Nick Jones, read a statement. “The family believes that my grandfather, Mark Felt Sr., is a great American hero who went well above and beyond the call of duty at much risk to himself to save his country from a horrible injustice,” it said. “We all sincerely hope the country will see him this way as well.”

In a statement issued later, Watergate reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein said, “W. Mark Felt was ’Deep Throat’ and helped us immeasurably in our Watergate coverage. However, as the record shows, many other sources and officials assisted us and other reporters for the hundreds of stories that were written in The Washington Post about Watergate.”

Among other things, Deep Throat urged the reporters to follow the money trail — from the financing of burglars who broke into the Democratic National Committee offices to the financing of Nixon’s re-election campaign.

The reporters and Bradlee had kept the identity of Deep Throat secret at his request, saying his name would be revealed upon his death. But then Felt revealed it himself.

Cloak-and-dagger box-office hit
Even the existence of Deep Throat, nicknamed for an X-rated movie of the early 1970s, was kept secret for a time. Woodward and Bernstein revealed their reporting had been aided by a Nixon administration source in their best-selling book “All the President’s Men.”

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The 1976 film of the Woodward-Bernstein book was a hit at the box office. The film garnered four Oscars, including best supporting actor honors for Jason Robards, who played Ben Bradlee.
A hit movie starring Robert Redford as Woodward, Dustin Hoffman as Bernstein and Hal Holbrook as Deep Throat was made in 1976. In the film, Holbrook’s shadowy, cigarette-smoking character met Redford in dark parking garages and provided clues about the scandal.

The movie portrayed cloak-and-dagger methods employed by Woodward and Deep Throat.

When Woodward wanted a meeting, he would position an empty flowerpot containing a red flag on his apartment balcony. When Deep Throat wanted to meet, the hands of a clock would appear written inside Woodward’s copy of The New York Times.

Was it Haig? Was it Dean?
The identity of the source has sparked endless speculation over the last three decades. Nixon chief of staff Alexander Haig, White House press aide Diane Sawyer, White House counsel John Dean and speechwriter Pat Buchanan and adviser Leonard Garment were among those mentioned as possibilities.

Felt himself was mentioned several times over the years as a candidate for Deep Throat, but he regularly denied he was the source.

“I would have done better,” Felt told The Hartford Courant in 1999. “I would have been more effective. Deep Throat didn’t exactly bring the White House crashing down, did he?”

Felt had hoped to succeed mentor J. Edgar Hoover as FBI director after Hoover’s death, but was passed over by Nixon for the job.

Colson, Liddy react
Nixon chief counsel Charles “Chuck” Colson worked closely with Felt in the Nixon administration and expressed surprise at the disclosure.

“Mark first served this country with honor, and I can’t imagine how Mark Felt was sneaking in dark alleys leaving messages under flower pots and violating his oath to keep this nation’s secrets. I cannot compute that with the Mark Felt that I know,” Colson said in an interview Tuesday with The Associated Press. Colson pleaded no contest to an obstruction of justice charge in the Watergate scandal and served time in prison.

Another Nixon associate who wound up behind bars, G. Gordon Liddy, said he didn’t consider Felt a hero for going to the Post reporters.

“If he were interested in performing his duty, he would have gone to the grand jury with his information,” Liddy, who was finance counsel at Nixon’s re-election committee and helped direct the break-in, said in an interview on CNN.

The FBI declined to comment Tuesday on Felt’s admission.
 

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Serena

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I heard that on the news, yesterday, but it was interesting to read these details. Thanks, Lollipop. :)

What's next--Jimmy Hoffa? :eek: :D
 

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Serena said:
I heard that on the news, yesterday, but it was interesting to read these details. Thanks, Lollipop. :)

What's next--Jimmy Hoffa? :eek: :D


He is under home plate in Yankee Stadium!


Interesting fact on Mark Felt, his home address is Redford Place!! How ironic!!
 
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