How much money is enough?

Steven posed that question once and I though it would be a good one too .

At what point would we sell what we have vs. I wouldnt sell it for the world at what point is giving upo what we have worth what we recieve? Could not a spiritual path be the same we were bought up a certain way but what if it was not working for you?
Would it be alright or would you experience say Buddhism as an alternate if it made you happier, you dont have to give up what you have in religion just add spiritual base to it..would we not be better people if we lived our lives as we were meant to without the credit factor? (watch TV its full of credit card debt commercials) Monks concern themselves with the spiritual issues not weather credit rating will hurt them.

Free yourself and your mind dont get on the credit card hamster wheel, its only benefiting big business not you personally, pay cash as they do if you write a check make sure its for bills. When you are free from debt you are free to explore that which is imprtant to you not worry about how to pay for which you already have..

Example my mother died (only 63) of cancer on 9/11/2003 I have a M home I used to want a nice expensive house we all do..but honestly I couldnt afford it and I have worked same place several yrs. but a friend of mine made me see the light..
Her mom was wealthy they had a $350.000 the dad died and they almost lost it mo only worked part time..see I know I can keep my MH, I know I can afford it. That which I desired I really didnt want the hassl goes with that responsibility..just a thought I'd like to have that house, we all do that.

all Im saying be satisfied with what you have and build from there, dont strive to have what you cannot by making a mountain of debt..so many have in America,
To me my desire to be free is more important than any credit card anywhere, I pay as I go, they dont like that because when we do we do we are truly free..ponder upon this.
 

Amos Stevens

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Yeah this is a good topic...

Only comment I have at the moment is thinking about people who win the lottery or something & go out & splurge like crazy..how quickly all that money can be gone & they can be in worse conditions than they're before!
 
Greed

Yeah I think it was in the Enquirer or something about a man who won 3 mil and he was called by casinos in vegas cause he loved to gamble. (remember he had 3 mil) I would have been happy with that. But he went to get more and then the friends and relatives started calling him and the organizations for the poor etc., well he was wealthy not wise and when he won he bought a nice house he couldnt later afford.

So since he sisnt watch his money at the beginning it was now slipping away quickly first th house was demnding money he no longer had, and therelatives no longer called (they got theirs) friends (ditto). so it was him and about 100.000 this was in a year! so now hes divorced (course wife left) and has a small house and whats left of his empire..did he learn a lesson aparently not they said what are you going to do with the rest of the money
(invest etc?) he smiles (learning nothing I guess) Ky derbys next week, think Ill go there.. (SOME PEOPLE NEVER LEARN)
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Heard about a college student up in Canada winning a lottery today....wonder how long that will last him.


And speaking of losing money quick:

Divorce sets Harrison Ford back millions
Ex-wife Melissa Mathison gets what is believed to be Hollywood record

DOUG CAMILLI
The Gazette


Tuesday, January 20, 2004

Harrison Ford's divorce settlement with Melissa Mathison will cost him something like $115 million, which is believed to be a Hollywood record, several million more than Tom Cruise paid Nicole Kidman.

Ford didn't have a pre-nup with Mathison - they were married 18 years - and she really took him to the cleaners: something like $15 million in cash, plus a share of royalties from the DVDs and videos of his old movies, plus a share of every penny he earns from now on, plus something like $500,000 a year for each of their two kids, now 16 and 13. Add it all up and she got pretty much everything but his other shirt.

My guess is if he does marry Calista Flockhart, he'll demand a vanadium-clad pre-nup first. Melissa is 53. Ford is 61. Flockhart is 39.


© Copyright 2004 Montreal Gazette
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
I think if we have our basic needs met we should try to be satisfied...You see here that will all the millions, even movie stars and folks who live in the lap of luxury are not happy...I think people do judge you by what you have, or what they think you have, and that is sometimes unfortunate, because you could be a really good person, and be judged as not worthy...On the other hand, you could be rich, and be judged as great, when you aren't a good person at all...It's funny how the world is...
BTW, SAS GA, I didn't know that 350,000 was considered wealthy...Interesting...
I have credit cards too, even though I know they are evil...
Ah well, lessons still to learn, but the most important point I am making is that money does not bring happiness, it never has and it never will...
 
Home Sweet Home

THats just for the house Lotussan, it was a $350,000 house in my state you have to have 4x the amount to purchase that so she had to have $1,400.000 min income to purchase that house. and Im sure the furniture was high too and the car (suv of course)etc..so yeah she was wealthy
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
I have to confess I get really, really annoyed sometimes by the conspicuous consumption of the very rich (and how that consumption is glorified). I know in some cases that those in question have worked for their money (that doesn't explain Ben Affleck, but then, nothing explains Ben Affleck), but there are others, like Paris Hilton, who haven't earned the money they flaunt. For what they spend on one outing, I could live on for a year - or longer!

-TD, pulling on the ends in an attempt to make them meet, and failing miserably
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
TD, not making fun of your situation dear, but you sure are funny sometimes, and honestly I mean that in the most positive of ways...Thanks for making me grin...:D
 

aikijones

New Member
And speaking of losing money quick:

Divorce sets Harrison Ford back millions
Ex-wife Melissa Mathison gets what is believed to be Hollywood record

DOUG CAMILLI
The Gazette


Tuesday, January 20, 2004

Harrison Ford's divorce settlement with Melissa Mathison will cost him something like $115 million, which is believed to be a Hollywood record, several million more than Tom Cruise paid Nicole Kidman.



My guess is if he does marry Calista Flockhart, he'll demand a vanadium-clad pre-nup first. Melissa is 53. Ford is 61. Flockhart is 39.


© Copyright 2004 Montreal Gazette

Hello Amos,

I have always liked Harrison Ford because of starwars but dang 155million. He should have done the Britney thing. To bad he didn't cause his latest movie doesn't look that good. Nicole Kidman movies however are at her prime and she got paid. Moral, Don't marry or marry forever. Thanks Amos for the welcome also.
 

aikijones

New Member
lotussan,

You know the "Britney Thing" Marry and Divorce in six hours. He He.

You don't go from a screen writer with 18years of marraige to an actress and don't pay the price.
 

aikijones

New Member
SAS Guardian Angel,

Sorry to hear about your mother. I hope everything does go well for you.

$Money$ A hard topic to discuss. Politics, fame, crime and SURVING DAY TO DAY all come up when the sound of "Bling Bling" is mentioned. It is sad to see people straving all over the world and then right down the street so to speak, people dieng (Iraic) and then we turn on NBC and the dominoe effect of a beer comercial which cost a m(b)illion to make. Makes this world a livable place. G whoever has all this loot should give it to the elementry children so they can fix the problem. Think about this. Kids are not in the problem, adutls are. Kids are only dieing. So when is money enough. We already have to much money.
 
Compassion

With all those wealthy snobby brat actors its nice to see some who still have a heart. The big word is Philanthropy or caring about others and having compassion. Steven is at the top of the list with sharing it was said he left quite a bit of assistance money in eastern KY (where he filmed "Fire Down Below" which could use it, and in Alaska..ditto.

It comforts me to support someone financially by our buying his things and he goes and helps someone else. Well its better than some stars bragging about mllions the spent on a wedding or the new ultra fancy sportscar that is so limited we cant have one. And I agree with TD, I too have a reg job and I have to listen to how the Olsen twins got matching SUV or Michael Jacksons 20 mil home whats he do buy another 20 mil (he wants a home that suits him really he must really think he IS a king..some issues there)
 

aikijones

New Member
It comforts me to support someone financially by our buying his things and he goes and helps someone else. Well its better than some stars bragging about mllions the spent on a wedding or the new ultra fancy sportscar that is so limited we cant have one. And I agree with TD, I too have a reg job and I have to listen to how the Olsen twins got matching SUV or Michael Jacksons 20 mil home whats he do buy another 20 mil (he wants a home that suits him really he must really think he IS a king..some issues there)


SAS Guardian Angel,

I see your point. It is a great thing when you see actors like Shihan Seagal shareing the wealth to people who need education and important things like this. But don't forget Mr. Jackson has given millions to aids projects, kids research and probably lots of charities around the world. (Yes) What has happen to the time when actors/actresses use to give for the better of wo/ man kind. Now in Hollywood it's who's with who and how much. Of course "We all know Mr. Jackson has issues." On the serious note, lets hope our generation (generation X) will keep the values of Budo, but that's another topic.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Yes, Steven is great that way, isn't he? Really very admirable...I think I heard even heard that he used to teach english when he was in Japan...He seems like a very caring man to me...:)
 
Compassions of Sensei

I wouldnt doubt that a bit, his father was a teacher his mother a nurse, no wonder he has such concerns for the human condition and has such a compassion for helping people he gets it honest.
 
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