John leguizamo tidbit about seagal

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aikidoboynj

"Lookin fit Nelson"
Monday, March 11, 2002
Red-hot over Rouge snub
By LOUIS B. HOBSON -- Calgary Sun
HOLLYWOOD -- According to John Leguizamo, there is no real mystery to the Oscar voting process.

Leguizamo, who stars as artist Henri Toulouse-Lautrec in Baz Luhrmann's musical spectacular Moulin Rouge, says it's a simple rule-of-thumb.

"First, you vote for yourself. Then you vote for your friends and finally, you vote against your enemies," says Leguizamo.

He insists the cruelest irony of this year's nominations is that Luhrmann didn't receive a nomination for his direction.

"The joke is that Moulin Rouge is the movie that directed itself, but few people are laughing at the slight Baz received. If any movie last year was a director's film, it's Moulin Rouge."

Leguizamo says Luhrmann is "talking about setting a new Ben Hur movie in the Australian Outback. Before you laugh too loudly, remember Baz is the guy who relocated Romeo & Juliet to Mexico and created hip hop Bohemians for Moulin Rouge."

Leguizamo, who starred in both Romeo & Juliet and Moulin Rouge, says "Baz doesn't have to tell me what he's filming -- just where and when and I'm there."

The actor confesses he'd run the other way if Steven Seagal ever called again.

"As nice as Seagal was to me on Out for Justice, he was that mean to me on Executive Decision.

"Mind you, Seagal was really upset his character had to die so soon in Executive Decision. He tried to get the producers to let him live.

"He was so upset the day they filmed the death scene, he wouldn't come out of his trailer for the longest time."


Leguizamo stars as the voice of Sid the sloth in the animated feature Ice Age, which opens Friday.

taken from:http://www.canoe.ca/JamMoviesArtistsL/leguizamo_john.html

A side note, it would have been cool to see that movie with Steven Seagal not being offed so early, he would have had a more silent creeping around second hand man(to kurt russel who couldnt hold a candle to seagal in action movies but forget about that for the sake of the movie)role as opposed to the Casey Ryback style engaging the enemy dead on...Would have been a lot better of a movie.. :gun:
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
I don't blame Steven for that kind of stuff is very eerie to me...Also think he should have gotten the bigger role, not Kurt Russell who I don't care for at all...Is it me John Leguizamo getting more more and more unattractive as the days go by...He is a little shrimp, obviously intimidated by the BIG GUY...Ah well...Was he in Out For Justice?
He makes no positive impact on my memory...
 

yudansha

TheGreatOne
mad seagal tv

I've been telling you guys (some of you in some of my threads) that Executive Decision is a conspiracy on its own. That is old news; and who wouldn't be mad at having their hero character die off unexpectedly (the script was changed without having Seagal know about it, until a few days before that scene was shot). I'd be mad too, especially when Seagal has established such a name for himself in the times that E.D. was filiming.
 

Disciple

come get some
He's told this story about the ED set problems a few times before. What it comes down to is that SS knew his fans wouldn't want to see him die in a movie. It also must be quite humiliating to have to be killed off when you're such a big star (as SS was at the time) and the movie is using your presence to pull in moviegoers.

I still have trouble watching that scene. :(
 

aikidoboynj

"Lookin fit Nelson"
Disciple said:
He's told this story about the ED set problems a few times before. What it comes down to is that SS knew his fans wouldn't want to see him die in a movie. It also must be quite humiliating to have to be killed off when you're such a big star (as SS was at the time) and the movie is using your presence to pull in moviegoers.

I still have trouble watching that scene. :(

Yeah he shouldn't have died he should have been the hero, that movie coulda been alot better with him in the lead...I remember how much annoyance that caused at the time that people spent there money to see some Seagal asskicking ala Under Siege and what they got is a computer nerd hiding in the roof of a air plane, atleast the beginning with Seagal was good......Probably to late to do a movie about him being a current special ops guy as they portrayed in the beginning of the movie, now a days he would definitely be the ex SEAL because he woulda retired from such daring work lol
 

Disciple

come get some
To be fair though, the movie was called "Executive Decision", meaning that the focus was always going to be on the Kurt Russell character rising to the occasion and saving the day (Kurt being "the executive", and not the typical action man type like SS).

Even though the SS character didn't make it, it's still a very good Die Hard type movie. Kurt always delivers. Tense direction, too.

But it would have been so cool if SS had stuck around till the end...
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
Disciple said:
To be fair though, the movie was called "Executive Decision", meaning that the focus was always going to be on the Kurt Russell character rising to the occasion and saving the day (Kurt being "the executive", and not the typical action man type like SS).

Even though the SS character didn't make it, it's still a very good Die Hard type movie. Kurt always delivers. Tense direction, too.

But it would have been so cool if SS had stuck around till the end...


It just didn't make sense of him to die. What were they thinking? I bet half the people who watched the movie wanted to watch it because of Seagal, not Kurt "Who the hell is" Russell.

;-)
 

jhogan

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I remember him saying in an interview that he was only paid one million for it, meaning it was always going to be a small cameo type role. In fact, the movie was advertised, and I remember this clearly, WITHOUT his name in the credits or poster - Seagal even said that the movie co was advertising him as having a major costarring role in the movie in the advertsing campaign overseas when in fact he didn't, and that he was a little miffed about it because people were saying, "Hey, how can you die in it, you were advertised as being the star !" Later it was chgd here in the states to have him in the credits and poster.

In other words, the role always was going to die, and he took it as a cameo knowing this. And about people not seeing it, I remember it grossing quite a lot of money. Him being pissed that his character dieing and him trying to get him to live probably was because he tried to chg the story.


And why people are attacking John Leguizamo while at the same time criticising people who may offer the slightest differing opinion of Seagal strikes me as hypocritical. Practice what you preach.
 

TDWoj

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Well, on my DVD his name is not in the opening credits, which to me made it pretty clear he wasn't going to make to the end of the movie.

I'm with the others, though - I think it would have been a more interesting movie if his character had survived, if for no other reason than to carry on the tension between his character's and Kurt's. They had a "chemistry" that I think would have worked to the film's benefit (and maybe if Steven's character had to be killed off, be killed off nearer the end rather than right at the beginning. It still would have got the same reaction - that a major star gets killed off in a movie which never is supposed to happen in a movie - but we would have had the benefit of a good "thing" between a couple of characters.)
 

jhogan

New Member
TDWoj said:
Well, on my DVD his name is not in the opening credits, which to me made it pretty clear he wasn't going to make to the end of the movie.

I'm with the others, though - I think it would have been a more interesting movie if his character had survived, if for no other reason than to carry on the tension between his character's and Kurt's. They had a "chemistry" that I think would have worked to the film's benefit (and maybe if Steven's character had to be killed off, be killed off nearer the end rather than right at the beginning. It still would have got the same reaction - that a major star gets killed off in a movie which never is supposed to happen in a movie - but we would have had the benefit of a good "thing" between a couple of characters.)


Me, too. I remember when I first saw it, before the reviews and the "secret" was out, I was, like, WHAT !? when he bit the big one...
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
yudansha said:
I've been telling you guys (some of you in some of my threads) that Executive Decision is a conspiracy on its own. That is old news; and who wouldn't be mad at having their hero character die off unexpectedly (the script was changed without having Seagal know about it, until a few days before that scene was shot). I'd be mad too, especially when Seagal has established such a name for himself in the times that E.D. was filiming.


:mad: :mad: :mad:
He should have refused to do it then, that really sucks if it's true...
Poor Sensei....:(
Don't worry, Steven baby, you were totally fantastic in that role,
even if it was only for a little while...:)
 

tora

Funmaker
Sigh.... :mad:
Kurt Russell is only cool when he's featured by some other cool star,like Tango and Cash,remember?
 

Disciple

come get some
Kurt Russell is a very cool actor even on his own. Especially on his own. He can even do one of the best Elvis impersonations I've ever seen. Great actor, and without him I probably wouldn't like ED nearly as much (especially considering the lack of SS).

David Suchet was an excellent bad guy though, too...
 

tora

Funmaker
Yeah...recalling him as Poirot has totally messed me up...:D
Ah well,after all Kurt Russell ain't a bad guy at all...The movies I've seen him in were all good...Yeah,Disciple,in the end I'm gonna agree with you.:D
 
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