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Kill Switch - Reviews

#21
Detailed review

First Words:
Ok well this was much better than expected, altough not everything is perfect. But overall an entertaining piece of film :)

Story:
Yeah the story is one of the disappointing parts of the movie. I actually never got really into the whole killer story, maybe its because my english isn't perfect but i didnt get everything of the story, i also found it kinda boring sometimes. We've seen much better but we also have seen worse.

2.5/5

Action:
Ok, except the fights there isn't much action. We have a shootout, which was made ok. Not fantastic, but also not bad, standard b-movie stuff. A small car explosion was also there. The action was not bad, but also not groundbreaking, standard b-movie stuff.

3/5

Fights:
Yeah thats where the movie shines. We have really a lot of fight scenes here, and they are all really long. I think we have about 10 minutes fights in this movie, awesome stuff. What unfortunately is really bad about the fights, is the editing. Mostly only close-ups and they always change from fast motion to slow motion, hard to explain, really a strange editing style, which made it sometimes hard to see whats going on. Except the editing the fights are great. Really tough, hard fights. Mostly Steven throws guys around, into bars, objects, mirrors, and so on. Even if the editing was kinda crappy, overall i think we can really be pleased with the fightscenes. Im totally happy that there aren't only 2-3 short scenes, no, really long fightscenes. For the next movie, not that much close-ups not that much editing ****, and a bit more creative fights... but overall pretty good.

4/5

Stunt Doubles:
Yes, a lot. But i think due the weird editing you can't see them always.

3/5

Acting:
The acting was ok. I think a bit more than average. Seagal was as always great.

3.5/5

Humor:
Yeah. Also pretty average. Not very much, but there were a few really cool one-liners and some funny scenes.

3.5/5

CGI_Effects:
nothing, just some muzzle flashes over some guns.

4.5/5


Cinematography/Look/Editing:
Pretty decent. First im so ****ing happy that most of the scenes were shot at day. And when there is a night scene you can see everything perfectly. I really think the movie looks more expensive than it actually is. Really, good stuff. Well the Editing was bad, i can't explain it... Im not someone who hates fast and slowmotion that much, but they have cut everything so strange, i didn't liked it... But expect that, really, really good stuff in that department.

4/5

Music:
Total average. Standard.

3/5

Overall Rating:
Well yeah, here we are again. I can say, it could be worse. The movie is entertaining, Seagal acts great, the movie has a great look. The only things that i didn't liked were the story, which was not bad, but kinda boring, and sometimes weird. Also the Editing in the action scenes was ****ed up. On the other side we have a great look, a good amount of fight scenes, and good actors. Now im ready for Rusland ;)

Ill give it 3.5/5
 
#22
Ok here is my review after seeing the whole "Screened" version.

Overall: In my personal opinion this is one of Steven's best movies in recent years. It is a definitely a departure from his normal films. I'd classify this as more of Thriller than an action movie actually. It was highly entertaining, but the editing of the fight scenes really detracted from the total value of the film.

Plot: The plot was pretty good, but quite scattered at times. The whole movie doesn't really need the first or last scene. I'm really not sure how they impacted the movie whatsoever. The ending actually really left me confused.

Fights: The fights were much longer than usual, but pretty brutal. It was interesting because Steven seemed a lot more "human" during the fights. He was actually taking quite a few punches and getting knocked around a bit, something that you don't usually see in his movies. In conjunction, there wasn't any crap about his character's "non-existent, elite military background" or anything like that.

Film: The clarity of the film was superb. It really looked good enough for theatres in my opinion.

Acting: Pretty good. Steven and Chris Thomas King definitely stood out. CTK's character really doesn't get fleshed out until half-way through the movie though, and even then I feel like there could have been more for him. I will say he has one of the most hilariously, absurd scenes I've seen in a while. I don't want to give it away, but I laughed my a$$ off. Kudos to him. Cameo by Isaac Hayes, probably the worst actor of the movie however.

Dubbing: There was a lot of dissension on another thread about the dubbing in the first 5 minutes. In my personal opinion, it was not dubbed. There is only minimal dubbing throughout the film, but Steven definitely explores the Southern accent and it is a little off-setting at first, but you'll get settled eventually. I think the problem is that many of this forum's members are European or from a different country and the Southern twang definitely makes Steven's voice sound different to the extent that he may sound like a different person.

Doubling: Most definitely there are fight doubles, but the reality is that the quick cuts in the fight scenes make it really hard to discern anything too quickly. You can see doubles in other behind-the-back scenes even when Steven isn't fighting. The truth is that Steven's time is limited, and that any scene not showing his face is usually a waste of his time to film so they'll use a double.

Final note, I live in Memphis, and thought they did a pretty good job of pretending that's where this was shot. They actually did get some shots of the city that they scattered throughout which helped add to the realism. Also, my buddies local beer company is featured quite a bit in the film. You'll see his bottles, signs, beer taps, costers, a camisole that one of the bartenders/victims wears, beer cases, and 6-pack carriers. He'll be pleased and I can't wait to let him know.

Really, this was a good movie. Good acting. With some exception the plot is good mostly because of how different it is from Steven's recent movies. Props to Steven for some pretty clever writing. Can't wait for the final cut in October.
 
#24
"Acting: Pretty good. Steven and Chris Thomas King definitely stood out. CTK's character really doesn't get fleshed out until half-way through the movie though, and even then I feel like there could have been more for him. I will say he has one of the most hilariously, absurd scenes I've seen in a way. I don't want to give it away, but I laughed my a$$ off. Kudos to him. Cameo by Isaac Hayes, probably the worst actor of the movie however."

MemphisBlues, I and the 1,800 of Chris's fans and friends I represent appreciate your comments. A very well-written review, btw.

Having seen more of the film I can say the acting was good, music fit the mood of the film very well, kudos to Steven for the story, which in my opinion, having worked in the field, is as much psychological horror as any other tag that has been given it.

The editing was choppy. A real shame because it distracted from the movie at times and made the story hard to follow. I'll have my review when I've seen it all.
 
#24
My Kill Switch Review!

Well after receiving my Kill Switch screener today here is what I have to say.

To be honest with you I was not expecting that much from this film, the only thing that was on my mind was that it would be another good DTV film from Steven Seagal since Urban Justice and Pistol Whipped were excellent DTV Seagal films. I was thinking two great DTV releases from Seagal, this one has to be better or just as good. Well after watching the film tonight I was extremely disapointed. Let me say this was some of the worst editing I have seen in my life and in my opinion I feel this is the worst editing in a Seagal direct to video release. The hype for this film that was formally known as, A Higher Form Of Learning, was said to be a great dark action thriller, and to spawn some great brutal and violent hand to hand fight scenes. Violent and brutal they were but they weren't Seagal.. After two great quality DTV releases in Urban Justice and Pistol Whipped, I must say Kill Switch is a let down to me, and this is my reason.

Plot:
The plot reminded my of a bad watered down Glimmer Man and Silence Of The Lambs type movie. The plot and story was written by Steven Seagal himself. He played a Memphis City Police homicide detective tracking down a serial killer who has brutalized the city by his many murders. The plot was simple enough and straight forward on paper, however I believe when they tried to express it on film it was a little more complicated and that made it a little confusing and hard to follow at times. I like seeing Seagal play this role however this movie did not bring out his character in this film.

Acting:
Obviously since this film was portrayed to be in Memphis, in the South, and have that blues type feel, Seagal tried to take on a Southern role in his accent and acting, or should I say his voice dubber ;) To be honest Seagal overdid his Southern character in this film, making his character a little too, need I say the dredded word, cliche, and a bit arrogant from what I noticed from his character. I don't like Seagal's short choppy remarks while using a southern accent. I like the well and soft spoken cognacent Seagal tone that we haven't heard from a long time since Exit Wounds, in my opinion. I didn't like Seagal's acting, I felt he portrayed the southern tone much much better in Fire Down Below. But I was not that fond of his acting in this film, no classic one liners that I could remember and stand out. It felt like we weren't seeing the real Seagal, but more like a copy cat. The other actors were great, mostly B level actors, it was nice seeing Isaac Hayes, but I think the rest of the actors did great for being B level DTV actors. As for Seagal, it wasn't him. The thing about Seagal which he doesn't like is people see him as one role and one role only, even though he wants to be portrayed as a multi dimentional actor and be able to play different roles and characters, he set a standard for himself in the early 90's that enables him to actually be someone else. Seagal's best acting is when he is himself. Period.

Action:
The action and fight scenes is what we all watch a Steven Seagal film, at least most of us. The action I remember from Above The Law, Out For Justice and Under Siege 2 is what put Seagal on the map. With his recent DTV releases such as Mercenary For Justice and Urban Justice, it showed Seagal can always reinvent himself when it comes to hand to hand combat. In those two films he showed what a realistic and master martial artist he really is. As having 17 years experience in the martial arts, when I see Seagal fight it is beautiful, his joint locks, bone manipulation, striking to vital parts of the human body, that is what makes Seagal who he is. That is what I want to see. But in this film I saw none of that, I repeat NONE of it. This was in my opinion the worst Seagal DTV in terms of fight scenes. At least in Black Dawn the one fight scene he did have, it was actually him. EVERY single fight scene from this film was a double and NOT Seagal. They simply showed his face a couple times during every fight to rensure the audience that it is Seagal himself, but it wasn't. There were maybe two clips of Seagal actually doing the move himself. I was very dissapointed. Many members who watch the film will say they thought the action was good because the fights were long and there were many fights, but none of the fights were actually Seagal. This probably had the most fight scenes out of all the DTV releases, but it didn't mean anything because it wasn't Seagal fighting, and it was so so obvious. I was extremely dissapointed with the fight scenes. Also the editing for the fight scenes was horrible, the worst editing for the fight scenes out of all the Seagal films. The only time they showed Seagal for the fights was when he just slammed someone in to a wall which became very repetative since he did it so many times in the film. Overall these were some of the worst fight scenes I have seen because about 97% of ALL the fights were an obvious double. Very dissapointed with the fights. As for the other action, were a couple gun fights and one explosion, nothing new. Urban Justice and Pistol Whipped outclassed this film if you were to judge it by the fights and action scenes. So many fights in this film, none of Seagal actually doing them. A huge let down.

Appearence:
The good thing about this film is the classic Seagal look is back, minus the poneytail. I love it when Seagal wears his black leather jacket, dark shirts and black jeans. That is the classic Seagal the world knows. I thought Seagal's wardrobe looks great, in my opinion and I hate to say it, he looks a little heavier then he did compared to Urban Justice and Pistol Whipped. But he looked very cool and stylish in this film, the ladies will like it ;) His wardrobe looked great, I miss his poney tail, I don't like that short lunch lady cap looking hair style he is sporting now a days. Bring back the poney tail Seagal. But nonetheless Seagal looked really good in terms of wardrobe in this film. So that was a nice plus. Seagal and leather jackets are golden.

Dubbing:
I plugged in my headphones while watching this film because a couple members who watched this film said his voice was not dubbed or it was dubbed very little. Well this is no opinion here this is fact, the WHOLE movie was DUBBED! This was the worst dubbing for a Seagal movie. More dubbing than Out Of Reach and Submerged. The whole movie was dubbed, the reason being, Seagal spoke in his real voice for little bits and segments throughout the whole movie. One scene would have Seagal's terrible southern voice dubber and right after that in the same scene it would be Seagal's real voice, and then the dubber again. The whole movie was dubbed. 1/3 of the beginning was all dubbed, and as the movie went on longer more of Seagal's real voice would appear. But the WHOLE movie was DUBBED, which was another huge let down since there was no dubbing at all in Urban Justice and Pistol Whipped. This is by far more worse than the Out Of Reach dubbing because this whole film was dubbed.

Doubles:
All of his fight scenes were doubles, I am sorry to say but that is the truth. The good part was it was not as obvious like Belly Of The Beast, but it was obvious enough for me. Every fight scene had the double fighting, especially the grappling and ground fighting fight scene. There were probably 2 scenes where Seagal actually did the move, and as he would fight they would show his face then switch back to filming the double fighting from behind. So very dissapointed to see doubles in EVERY single fight scene in the film. Another huge let down.

Production:
Believe it or not, beside the fact that the whole film was dubbed and all the fights were used as doubles, this actually looks like one of the most professional Seagal looking film in terms of production. It looks more professional, even if the editing was awfull, it looked more expensive than most of Seagal's DTV releases except for Into The Sun. I think the production was pretty good and the location was good. It wasn't a boring movie because Seagal was in so many locations and different places in the film. That was probably the best part, not the story, fights or action but Seagal was moving around alot and made it entertaining for some weird way.

Conclusion:
After watching Urban Justice and Pistol Whipped and those being two great Seagal DTV releases, I was extremely let down with this film. The story was mediocre, I liked Seagal's look and the locations but the fights and the dubbing were horendous, not to mention the editing. This is probably one of his worst films in terms of fight scenes, there were so many fights but none of it was Seagal. In my opinion Today You Die fight scenes were more entertaining. This movie had alot of potential but I don't know why they dubbed the whole thing and why the editing is so horrible. In some weird way I was still entertained with the film. It is weird because even though there were so many terrible things about the movie it still was more entertaining than alot of Seagal's DTV releases. More entertaining than Today You Die, The Foreigner, Black Dawn, Attack Force, etc... But this movie is far from good and I believe it is a step backwards. After the success of Urban Justice and Pistol Whipped, Kill Switch is without a doubt not better than those films.

I was dissapointed because I thought it would be another good quality Seagal DTV, but the use of the doubles and horrible editing with the fight scenes and the dubbing throughout the whole film ruined the movie. I recently been watching Seagal movies with my friends to make them fans, but this is a movie I am not proud to show them. As for my final words, I feel Seagal's music career is his main focus now, charity work second and focusing on his movies is 3rd or 4th on his list.
I rate this movie a weak 3 out of 5 stars.

**Here is my fan made Kill Switch trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QzIQd0tjzY
 

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Kotegashi

Master Of Disaster
Staff member
#25
If all goes well and the temperature is low enough I'll be able to watch it tonight and post my review tomorrow.

Seeing the reviews I'm curious to how it really is.

Seeing the first 5 minutes I can already say he is not dubbed the entire movie, I heard at least one whole sentence which was the mans own voice. The editing sucks and the double is painfully obvious (give him a better wig).

As to the discussion about the use for stunt and fight doubles, there are numerous reasons:
- insurance => the insurance company won't allow the star to do dangerous things
- Age of the star => perhaps he is just getting to old
- Attitude of the star => he is to frightened to get hurt or he feels he is to good for it.
- Cost => the more stuff the star does, the bigger the paycheck. Not enough budget, use a "much" cheaper double.

In Seagals case I feel it's mainly the last two that apply, but what gives....Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme, Norris, Connery, Damon, McGregor, Lundgren, Mr. T they all have used stunt and fight doubles. Some of which were even more obvious then Seagals double.

Peace

Peace
 
#26
When I said the entire movie was dubbed I meant there is dubbing throughout the entire movie, but this is the most dubbing out of all the Seagal movies. It is on and off, but Seagal's real voice is only heard from time to time but it is very short.

The very first line of the movie is dubbed, those first 5 mintues, if you really listen carefully, it is all dubbed.
 
#27
Kotegashi;189046 said:
As to the discussion about the use for stunt and fight doubles, there are numerous reasons:
- insurance => the insurance company won't allow the star to do dangerous things
- Age of the star => perhaps he is just getting to old
- Attitude of the star => he is to frightened to get hurt or he feels he is to good for it.
- Cost => the more stuff the star does, the bigger the paycheck. Not enough budget, use a "much" cheaper double.
insurance: as ive seen only two fight scenes, one of them was the first fight where his double lift a guy. did we need this in a seagal flick? DEF NOT

age of the star: i think hes still in form, watch what he did in pw and uj (there he throws also the guys around and did some fast moves like punching the japanese or chinese? who knows )

attitude of the star: that might could be. as there are some article flooding the net that told steven is a diva on set

cost: that could also be. as you might know an article says that most of the production value of pw went to steven. that might be the reason why he take more time for the fighting and does them all. nothing special. but its all him and thats a PLUS

just my two cents :)
 

rastafari

Well-Known Member
#28
Kotegashi;189046 said:
If all goes well and the temperature is low enough I'll be able to watch it tonight and post my review tomorrow.

Seeing the reviews I'm curious to how it really is.

Seeing the first 5 minutes I can already say he is not dubbed the entire movie, I heard at least one whole sentence which was the mans own voice. The editing sucks and the double is painfully obvious (give him a better wig).

As to the discussion about the use for stunt and fight doubles, there are numerous reasons:
- insurance => the insurance company won't allow the star to do dangerous things
- Age of the star => perhaps he is just getting to old
- Attitude of the star => he is to frightened to get hurt or he feels he is to good for it.
- Cost => the more stuff the star does, the bigger the paycheck. Not enough budget, use a "much" cheaper double.

In Seagals case I feel it's mainly the last two that apply, but what gives....Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme, Norris, Connery, Damon, McGregor, Lundgren, Mr. T they all have used stunt and fight doubles. Some of which were even more obvious then Seagals double.

Peace

Peace
Age of the star => perhaps he is just getting to old

how can he be too old hes only 56 and he filmed this 4 months after PW when he fought all the fights himself

truth is roel renie and Don made seagal fight cos thats what the fans want

i think jeff king could be another keasuh/oblowitz
 

Martin01

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#29
rastafari;189055 said:
i think jeff king could be another keasuh/oblowitz
Definitely NOT!!! This is just a laughable statement.

The cinematography of the movie is great, the look is light-years better than the stuff from Keusch and Oblowitz, the look is even better than Roel Reines Pistol Whipped. And they had the same budget. The choreography of the gunfights is great. The fight scenes and the editing are the only thing which is better in PW and UJ.
 

rastafari

Well-Known Member
#30
Martin01;189056 said:
Definitely NOT!!! This is just a laughable statement.

The cinematography of the movie is great, the look is light-years better than the stuff from Keusch and Oblowitz, the look is even better than Roel Reines Pistol Whipped. And they had the same budget. The choreography of the gunfights is great. The fight scenes and the editing are the only thing which is better in PW and UJ.
cinematography is from tom harting not jeff king

roel renie can shot action and thats what seagal films not action...for me even the fight scenes that were clearly seagal were still shot badly from i director that can shoot thriller type films but maybe cant shoot action

also i think PW had better action,story,acting,locations and sadly for me KS is nowhere near as good as PW...it seems van damme and snipes are doing no better as ive recently seen Art of war 2 and JCVD the movie and both of them were poor IMO as well
 

Kotegashi

Master Of Disaster
Staff member
#31
rastafari;189055 said:
Age of the star => perhaps he is just getting to old

how can he be too old hes only 56 and he filmed this 4 months after PW when he fought all the fights himself

truth is roel renie and Don made seagal fight cos thats what the fans want

i think jeff king could be another keasuh/oblowitz
As I stated in my post I think Attitude and cost are the main factor in Seagals movies for the use of doubles. I know he can still hold his own in a fight sequence, but the bugdet of his recent films are a bit on the low side.

For UJ he probably put in a little extra effort due to his long time (working)relation with Don and in PW I think Reiné gave Seagal a free hand in the fight scenes and didn't argue with Seagal about moves and techniques.

Every time Seagal gets "carte blanche" for the fight sequences, it's all him. Every time others choreograph the fights sequences or a director challenges the fight sequences thought of by Seagal, it's a lot of stunt doubles.

The last excellent teamwork between Seagal and a fight choreographer was in Exit Wounds, the fight choreographer was a fan of Seagal and discussed with Seagal how to incorporate Seagals style and moves in a more wire works fight then he was used to. That worked, but his recent choreographers know too little about martial arts (or Aikido in special) to make it work. This gives the need for quick and blurry editing, speeding up the moves and the use of the doubles.

I don't think you can compare King with Oblowitz. Oblowitz is full of himself and looks high in the making off OFAK. Keusch had bad luck with Attack force (he couldn't get his name removed from the final product), but Flight of Fury turned out pretty decent although the budget killed it (use of "bad" stock footage etc.)

Peace
 

rastafari

Well-Known Member
#32
Kotegashi;189058 said:
As I stated in my post I think Attitude and cost are the main factor in Seagals movies for the use of doubles. I know he can still hold his own in a fight sequence, but the bugdet of his recent films are a bit on the low side.

For UJ he probably put in a little extra effort due to his long time (working)relation with Don and in PW I think Reiné gave Seagal a free hand in the fight scenes and didn't argue with Seagal about moves and techniques.

Every time Seagal gets "carte blanche" for the fight sequences, it's all him. Every time others choreograph the fights sequences or a director challenges the fight sequences thought of by Seagal, it's a lot of stunt doubles.

The last excellent teamwork between Seagal and a fight choreographer was in Exit Wounds, the fight choreographer was a fan of Seagal and discussed with Seagal how to incorporate Seagals style and moves in a more wire works fight then he was used to. That worked, but his recent choreographers know too little about martial arts (or Aikido in special) to make it work. This gives the need for quick and blurry editing, speeding up the moves and the use of the doubles.

I don't think you can compare King with Oblowitz. Oblowitz is full of himself and looks high in the making off OFAK. Keusch had bad luck with Attack force (he couldn't get his name removed from the final product), but Flight of Fury turned out pretty decent although the budget killed it (use of "bad" stock footage etc.)

Peace
well the bad news is that the fight choreographer of ruslan is the same as KS
 

rastafari

Well-Known Member
#34
Martin01;189062 said:
The director has a lot to say about the look.
he has a say but id say the look of the film is 70% the cinematographer

thats why don is the cinematographer of his films so he has more so in the look

i am not saying he is as bad as keasuh/oblowitz i meant he could be...lets wait and see what ruslan looks like cos according to kirk shaw jeff has alot more say in the final edit of ruslan
 
#35
I make it simple...

the good thing about KILL SWITCH:
- good plot....more diferrent than the last scripts, just love those serial killer movies
- again super soundtrack, they are getting better and better
- nice directing style from King
- only nice fight......:) (the last one made by Seagal in full)
- finally brutal is back (the tooth in the table, thing - priceless :)

the bad things in KILL SWITCH
- wierd accent by Steven (dubbed ??? maybe)
- stupid, dubbed lines put by producers or some stupid f*** when the fights are getting place
- the fights made by Seagal and King were good, but some f***** producers took his double, some cameras and had to make the fights longer then they where at the beginning. You can see that they put those stupid scenes in the middle of every fight (the looooooong bar fight for example) you can see that Steven is starting and end the fights but in the middle there is Hristov put there for no reason.
- movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, ...................

8,5/10 (for the original version) and 6/10 (for the changed version)
 

The Phoenix

Master of None
#36
My Review (Possible Spoilers!)

Let me start off by saying that I'm an enormous Seagal fan and that I've watched and own all of his movies (both VHS and DVDS), amongst other collectibles.

I watched a screener of KS last night and overall found it very disappointed. I had high hopes as I was spoiled by Seagal doing his own talking, walking (mostly) and fight scenes in Pistol Whipped and Urban Justice. I really hoped that our hero was finally back on the path to success by making movies that brought memories of his earlier work.

Let me break down my review:

Plot

I was expecting a lot from the plot as I like the idea of Seagal staring in a thriller. Again with high hopes after PS and UJ I wanted to see a well made thriller (with a simple plot). Unfortunately the plot was convoluted and nonsensical to say the least. Someone please explain the need of the scene at the end? was that supposed to be his family? The little boy called him Papa? I wish the plot was more like Glimmer Man instead of Attack Force meets Jonathan Cold

Action

The shot outs were horrible. And overall the action scenes mediocre.

Fight Scenes

I could have cried after watching the fight scenes in this movie. I would have to agree with Little Dragon that approx 97% of the fight scenes are done by a stunt double. I'm not sure if it's just the hardcore fans, but I'm pretty certain that anyone would notice the stunt "doubleness". I think the reason for the quick cuts and crazy editing was simply to hide the double. Think they could have done a better job? The only fight scene that was all Seagal (mostly anyways) was the one at the end... which was horrible... reminded me of when he beat up the girl at the end of attack force... very disappointing.

Cinematography

The movie itself looks great for it's budget. It was very easy on the eyes and in my opinion had such potential.

Audio

A lot of people have talked about the dubbing but I didn't really find it that bad. Most people couldn't tell if it was dubbed or not... So if you cannot tell for sure then atleast they found a voice actor that sounds somewhat like Seagal, I guess we should be thankful for that... The dubbing in KS is not nearly as bad as Out of Reach

Overall

Overall the movie was disappointing and the amount of dubbled fight scenes completely ruined it for me. Seagal looked good and I'm happy to see the big man working, but I want more! Still optimistic for Ruslan.

2 out of 4 stars
 
#37
I agree with you, it was not a good movie at all. Dubbing terrible and fights terrible due to the obvious doubles.

slawek_wozniak;189064 said:
I make it simple...

the good thing about KILL SWITCH:
- good plot....more diferrent than the last scripts, just love those serial killer movies
- again super soundtrack, they are getting better and better
- nice directing style from King
- only nice fight......:) (the last one made by Seagal in full)
- finally brutal is back (the tooth in the table, thing - priceless :)

the bad things in KILL SWITCH
- wierd accent by Steven (dubbed ??? maybe)
- stupid, dubbed lines put by producers or some stupid f*** when the fights are getting place
- the fights made by Seagal and King were good, but some f***** producers took his double, some cameras and had to make the fights longer then they where at the beginning. You can see that they put those stupid scenes in the middle of every fight (the looooooong bar fight for example) you can see that Steven is starting and end the fights but in the middle there is Hristov put there for no reason.
- movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, movie company, producers, editor, ...................

8,5/10 (for the original version) and 6/10 (for the changed version)
 
#40
I watched the film last night and i must admit after UJ and PW i'm pretty disappoiinted.

Now don't get me wrong its light years better than the rest of his STV films except ITS but it was just so bloody annoying.

I counted and i might be wrong 3 different voiceovers for Seagal. You had Seagal himself delivering his lines on set, then you have Seagal doing some rough, quiet southern accent kinda voice over and then their was someone else aswell delivering the lines. It was all rather annoying cos it's pretty clear to see that Seagal delivered all his lines whilst filming so why have to dub and re-do afterwards? I mean it was Seagal himself who wrote the film so i'm pretty sure he was up for it.

The other annoyin and it is really annoying problem is the constent body double for every fight scene apart from the end. It's clear to see that Seagal took part in pretty much every fight in the film but the problem is the added footage Nu Image put in and the terrible editing done by Cinetel just makes it all look a right mess.

Why do we as fans JUST want to see Seagal's face whilst he fights or even his back or his legs? We want to see him in all his glory like in UJ and PW.

I think it would be interesting to see the orginal cut filmed by Seagal and Jeff King to see what this was like before Nu Image and Cinetel messed it all up.

I had the feelin whilst watchin the film that it was just a cheap rip off of the Glimmer Man. Seagal looks great in this film and i think a stone or two lighter and he'll be awesome again but if you were to compare the fights with KS and GM then their is simply no comparison as GM is far superior.

This is all a massive shame because the film does have potential and like people have said it also looks great it was just ruined by the WEIRD dubbin issue and also the horrible choppy fight scenes which had no continuity.