Mason
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just downloaded the voltage pictures TRAILER and now i m uploading on youtube
Where did you download it ??
NEW SEAGAL FILM-A GOOD MAN
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Where did you download it ??
dante
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i dowloaded using firefox flashgot, ti's an extenesion of firefox that download flash video from everywhere
Mason
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i dowloaded using firefox flashgot, ti's an extenesion of firefox that download flash video from everywhere
Ok thanks
But waht page did you download it from ?? 
Seagal1969
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Don´t you understand that Seagal´s prime is long over due to his massivs ego and increasing weight.
I don´t know how many hamburgers Seagal had eaten since "Above the Law" but his fighting is not half as impressive as it used to be. It´s not only his age, be honest to yourself.
I hate all those Direct to DVD movies. They look cheap and the directors are bad as well.
"Above the Law" cost only 8 million but that was Seagal best acting movie, he was slim, in top form, charismatic, there were other good actors in the movie and above all a good director.
He should stop making movies unless he lost lots of weight and get a chance to be in a good movie.
By the way Seagal is ill. His Germany appearance was delayed to July 11th.
lee nicholson
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SEAGAL1969....Woah!
Where do I begin.........At the beginning, I guess?
If Seagal suddenly hit a NEW prime in life (highly unlikely?) would you then hate his earlier work?
But apart from 'Golf', does any physical skill get better over time? The guy is in his 60's, but is still fast as hell. His career was never built on 'Ninja Backflips' or 'Roundhouse Kicks'.....It was the brutal take-downs (despite the lack of acrobatics) that endeared him audiences in the first place. Aikido is 're-addressed force' (therefore you should take up your complaints to the many bad-guys that foolishly run at him, in his movies)
On a more serious note, Seagal has had some pretty good co-stars in his latter period (Dennis Hopper, Tom Sizemore, Linda Thorson, William Atherton, Vinnie Jones, P.H. Moriarty, Kevin Tighe, Luke Goss, Roger Guenveur Smith, Imelda Staunton, Eddie Griffin, Paul Calderon, Lance Henriksen, Issac Hayes....and I won't even bother with the combined cast of MACHETE)
He should (quote) "stop making movies" until he get's (quote) "a chance to be in a good movie"
That makes little (if any) sense...because what constitutes as a good movie.? It's all subjective. It's down to personal taste. I prefer DRIVEN TO KILL over HARD TO KILL....or A DANGEROUS MAN to UNDER SIEGE (but I'm not going to send a Terminator back in time, to stop these earlier movies from being made)
Must be all those innumerable burgers?
Or maybe Seagal has retired (on YOUR say-so, of course?)
Now, i avoided the temptation of immediately firing back with "If you don't like Seagals recent movies, why bother coming here?" (because I'm better than that.....even if you aren't)
But given your (contradictory, bizarre, haphazard) logic about all matters pertaining to '21st century Seagal' I do find it flat-out weird that you do visit these boards (especially topics about upcoming movies) if you're still stuck in a 1990's time-warp. You're not bringing anything new to the table, amidst your "Seagal is fat" or "Seagal is past-it" ramblings.....And truth be told (if your username is anything to go by) I'm guessing you are 44-45 years of age...you should really be doing something more constructive with your life, than visiting a website of an actor that you CLEARLY don't like anymore?
That's why you won't find me on the HANNAH MONTANA websites (I have zero interest in her...nor would I wish to upset her fanbase, by constantly moaning about WHY I don't like her) I'd sooner eat an apple.
Anyhow (rant over)
Good luck with finding a young, athletic, charismatic, slim man (that you so obviously crave?)
Where do I begin.........At the beginning, I guess?
So I guess you have no basic conception of what the word 'Prime' Means?
If Seagal suddenly hit a NEW prime in life (highly unlikely?) would you then hate his earlier work?
A tad rude (but par for the course)
But apart from 'Golf', does any physical skill get better over time? The guy is in his 60's, but is still fast as hell. His career was never built on 'Ninja Backflips' or 'Roundhouse Kicks'.....It was the brutal take-downs (despite the lack of acrobatics) that endeared him audiences in the first place. Aikido is 're-addressed force' (therefore you should take up your complaints to the many bad-guys that foolishly run at him, in his movies)
Yet you must still watch them, in order to hate them?
OK, we get it...You like your 'men' to be slim and athletic (this isn't a 'dating site' you know?)
On a more serious note, Seagal has had some pretty good co-stars in his latter period (Dennis Hopper, Tom Sizemore, Linda Thorson, William Atherton, Vinnie Jones, P.H. Moriarty, Kevin Tighe, Luke Goss, Roger Guenveur Smith, Imelda Staunton, Eddie Griffin, Paul Calderon, Lance Henriksen, Issac Hayes....and I won't even bother with the combined cast of MACHETE)
Eh?
He should (quote) "stop making movies" until he get's (quote) "a chance to be in a good movie"
That makes little (if any) sense...because what constitutes as a good movie.? It's all subjective. It's down to personal taste. I prefer DRIVEN TO KILL over HARD TO KILL....or A DANGEROUS MAN to UNDER SIEGE (but I'm not going to send a Terminator back in time, to stop these earlier movies from being made)
Must be all those innumerable burgers?
Or maybe Seagal has retired (on YOUR say-so, of course?)
Now, i avoided the temptation of immediately firing back with "If you don't like Seagals recent movies, why bother coming here?" (because I'm better than that.....even if you aren't)
But given your (contradictory, bizarre, haphazard) logic about all matters pertaining to '21st century Seagal' I do find it flat-out weird that you do visit these boards (especially topics about upcoming movies) if you're still stuck in a 1990's time-warp. You're not bringing anything new to the table, amidst your "Seagal is fat" or "Seagal is past-it" ramblings.....And truth be told (if your username is anything to go by) I'm guessing you are 44-45 years of age...you should really be doing something more constructive with your life, than visiting a website of an actor that you CLEARLY don't like anymore?
That's why you won't find me on the HANNAH MONTANA websites (I have zero interest in her...nor would I wish to upset her fanbase, by constantly moaning about WHY I don't like her) I'd sooner eat an apple.
Anyhow (rant over)
Good luck with finding a young, athletic, charismatic, slim man (that you so obviously crave?)
You missed this section of the sentence Lee. This section is key in Seagal1969's post.
I have to kinda agree on this bit with him. In a lot of his recent movies Seagal plays a character not quite fitting his physique. Sure, he will never get in the shape he was in ATL or US. But his shape in EW was very fitting the character. And in Ruslan he had several scenes where he had lost quite a good bit of weight and also fitted the part.
So the post isn't all that negative imo.
I've found only one article about it (posted by Dida). No further mention of Seagal beeing ill or in hospital anywhere on the internet.
Even his official facebook posted 13 hours ago that he was on his way to Europe for the tour.
Peace
lee nicholson
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It's not that I've missed anything he's said. I mentioned both DRIVEN TO KILL and A DANGEROUS MAN as examples of low-budgeted films that I prefer starring an older, heavier Seagal....compared to HARD TO KILL or UNDER SIEGE.
But (as mentioned previously) if you analyze everything seagal1969 says....you'll be wasting more time than he is.
Saying "unless he lost lots of weight" is as substantial a stipulation as "If we give Seagal a sex-change, shorten his legs and give him a blonde wig...can we then call him Cynthia Rothrock?"
And to then cite RUSLAN as an example of an ideal weight, is as equally fruitless when dealing with seagal1969, because (by his own admission) it wasn't made between 1988-1992, and therefore Seagal has been fat, slow and past it, ever since.
Trying to agree with seagal1969 is pointless, because everything is so black and white (there's no introspection or analysis) it simply comes down to "Seagal is fat" and "His films suck" (believe me, I've gave him more attention than he actually deserves) and rather than address any of the points I've made to him. He replies with the same old-same old (what was the point of him 'quoting' my last post...only just to spew the same tired nonsense?)
I can't even regard my conversations with him AS conversations. He has his own agenda. Nothing anyone could say, would matter. I could (and probably will) write a 24,000 word reply to him......and he'd just fire back with more "Seagal is fat" jibes.
As for the 'weight' issue....whilst he's never going to win 'Anorexic-Of-The-Year' I don't think Seagal looks too bad in recent years. I think it's more to do with our perception of action stars.
Seagal's skills never relied on superhuman feats of musclebound athleticism....and this is what set him apart from the other stars. I thought he looked too skinny in ABOVE THE LAW (a more lighthearted analogy, would be that his weight does all the jumping up and down...not him) Whilst I admire Stallone's dedication to keeping fit, I also respect the fact that Seagal actually looks his age, and seems to be keeping his fight scenes (therefore his actual limitations) more realistic. That's the difference between Seagal and Stallone (and it's a difference that I mutually respect)
Sure he looked heavier in MAXIMUM CONVICTION, but then again he seemed slimmer in FORCE OF EXECUTION....But he still looked like a tough asskicker in both movies. Yes, some of his character arc's in recent movies, can sometimes betray the actual image of Seagal (but that's more a problem with scripts, than the actual actor)
But Seagal is Seagal....you must allow him the odd eccentricity (that's why we love him) He hasn't changed the formula in over 25 years now. Maybe the problem isn't about Steven Seagal changing...Maybe the problem lies in the fact that his audience has?
But (as mentioned previously) if you analyze everything seagal1969 says....you'll be wasting more time than he is.
Saying "unless he lost lots of weight" is as substantial a stipulation as "If we give Seagal a sex-change, shorten his legs and give him a blonde wig...can we then call him Cynthia Rothrock?"
And to then cite RUSLAN as an example of an ideal weight, is as equally fruitless when dealing with seagal1969, because (by his own admission) it wasn't made between 1988-1992, and therefore Seagal has been fat, slow and past it, ever since.
Trying to agree with seagal1969 is pointless, because everything is so black and white (there's no introspection or analysis) it simply comes down to "Seagal is fat" and "His films suck" (believe me, I've gave him more attention than he actually deserves) and rather than address any of the points I've made to him. He replies with the same old-same old (what was the point of him 'quoting' my last post...only just to spew the same tired nonsense?)
I can't even regard my conversations with him AS conversations. He has his own agenda. Nothing anyone could say, would matter. I could (and probably will) write a 24,000 word reply to him......and he'd just fire back with more "Seagal is fat" jibes.
As for the 'weight' issue....whilst he's never going to win 'Anorexic-Of-The-Year' I don't think Seagal looks too bad in recent years. I think it's more to do with our perception of action stars.
Seagal's skills never relied on superhuman feats of musclebound athleticism....and this is what set him apart from the other stars. I thought he looked too skinny in ABOVE THE LAW (a more lighthearted analogy, would be that his weight does all the jumping up and down...not him) Whilst I admire Stallone's dedication to keeping fit, I also respect the fact that Seagal actually looks his age, and seems to be keeping his fight scenes (therefore his actual limitations) more realistic. That's the difference between Seagal and Stallone (and it's a difference that I mutually respect)
Sure he looked heavier in MAXIMUM CONVICTION, but then again he seemed slimmer in FORCE OF EXECUTION....But he still looked like a tough asskicker in both movies. Yes, some of his character arc's in recent movies, can sometimes betray the actual image of Seagal (but that's more a problem with scripts, than the actual actor)
But Seagal is Seagal....you must allow him the odd eccentricity (that's why we love him) He hasn't changed the formula in over 25 years now. Maybe the problem isn't about Steven Seagal changing...Maybe the problem lies in the fact that his audience has?
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lee nicholson
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Agreed, the budget (or lack of) is irrelevant to the quality of a movie. If not, then SPIDERMAN 3 (estimated budget $258m) would be considered the greatest movie ever made?
Anyhow, I think the trailers for A GOOD MAN look great, and I look forward to seeing the movie
Anyhow, I think the trailers for A GOOD MAN look great, and I look forward to seeing the movie
Seagal1969
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Lee Nicholson: I see you´re hardcore fan. Even his recent lousy movies are good for you...-OK....-enough said.
I contributed a lot the the forum and a lot for Seagal fans in general because I was the one who posted all the Steven Seagal interviews on the Arsenio Hall Show on YouTube and I got lots of gratitude in private messages for that as well. I own so much Seagal stuff that you can only dream of but I haven´t got the time to upload it.
For instance: Seagal appearances on David Letterman Show, on Jay Leno´s Tonight Show, I also have both Seagal appearances as a Oscar presenter on the Academy Awards(1995+1996) and much more.
You should accept other opinions but apparently you´re living in a dream word.
Seagal is no the great guy that you think he is. He molested more women in Hollywood than you know. Watch clips on YouTube with Claudia Jordan, Jenny McCartney etc....
He was named the worst Talk Show Host ever on Saturday Night Live due to his crazy personality. His reputation in Hollywood is worse than Honduras Soccer game in Brasil
Kotegashi: I´m German and according to lots of German newspapers Seagal postponed hisDuisburg appearance (Openng Planet Hollywood) due to his illness. He will be there on July 11th. You can believe me if I tell you this.
I contributed a lot the the forum and a lot for Seagal fans in general because I was the one who posted all the Steven Seagal interviews on the Arsenio Hall Show on YouTube and I got lots of gratitude in private messages for that as well. I own so much Seagal stuff that you can only dream of but I haven´t got the time to upload it.
For instance: Seagal appearances on David Letterman Show, on Jay Leno´s Tonight Show, I also have both Seagal appearances as a Oscar presenter on the Academy Awards(1995+1996) and much more.
You should accept other opinions but apparently you´re living in a dream word.
Seagal is no the great guy that you think he is. He molested more women in Hollywood than you know. Watch clips on YouTube with Claudia Jordan, Jenny McCartney etc....
He was named the worst Talk Show Host ever on Saturday Night Live due to his crazy personality. His reputation in Hollywood is worse than Honduras Soccer game in Brasil
Kotegashi: I´m German and according to lots of German newspapers Seagal postponed hisDuisburg appearance (Openng Planet Hollywood) due to his illness. He will be there on July 11th. You can believe me if I tell you this.
lee nicholson
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Lee Nicholson: I see you´re hardcore fan. Even his recent lousy movies are good for you...-OK....-enough said.
I contributed a lot the the forum and a lot for Seagal fans in general because I was the one who posted all the Steven Seagal interviews on the Arsenio Hall Show on YouTube and I got lots of gratitude in private messages for that as well. I own so much Seagal stuff that you can only dream of but I haven´t got the time to upload it.
For instance: Seagal appearances on David Letterman Show, on Jay Leno´s Tonight Show, I also have both Seagal appearances as a Oscar presenter on the Academy Awards(1995+1996) and much more.
You should accept other opinions but apparently you´re living in a dream word.
Seagal is no the great guy that you think he is. He molested more women in Hollywood than you know. Watch clips on YouTube with Claudia Jordan, Jenny McCartney etc....
He was named the worst Talk Show Host ever on Saturday Night Live due to his crazy personality. His reputation in Hollywood is worse than Honduras Soccer game in Brasil
Kotegashi: I´m German and according to lots of German newspapers Seagal postponed hisDuisburg appearance (Openng Planet Hollywood) due to his illness. He will be there on July 11th. You can believe me if I tell you this.
That's the most laughable post I've ever read.
Do you think having lot's of footage of 'Seagal' somehow validates your opinion that all his recent movies are bad...Yet you still watch them?
That just makes you look even more weird (if such a feat is possible?)
I couldn't care less if you had every clip/newspaper article/home movie he's ever featured in. And how much you've contributed to this site is irrelevant. Do you think uploading interviews, clips, or receiving gratitude from other members, gives you the excuse to post meaningless, hypocritical nonsense? I'm also a little bit embarrassed for you, that you'd think in any way, shape or form, that I'd be somehow jealous (ha-ha!) it's a bunch of clips and interviews, not the Holy Grail (ha!) It may pain you to notice, but I have a life to be getting on with (and it doesn't revolve around the ownership of how much Seagal memorabilia I own)
You say (quote) "You should accept other peoples opinions" but the truth of the matter is....you don't have one. You just blurt out random gossip as gospel truth. All the more worrying, that you have such a low regard for Seagal, yet (by your own admission) have loads of stuff pertaining to him. I don't think you're aware of how cringe-worthy your boast of (quote) "I own so much Seagal stuff that you can only dream of" (oh dear!) Personally, I like women
For the record, I like Seagal's movies (end of story) I'm not some super obsessed fan....which is why I'm not concerned about his weight, or his hair or his private life. Of course Seagal has flaws, and I've read all the scare stories, but (to quote DRIVEN TO KILL) "The key is...not to give a f**K!"
I don't like ALL his recent movies either.....Why would you say I do?
If you hate (quote) "2014 Seagal" so much, then why do you populate topics about his recent activities? I find it hard to take you seriously when all you do is slate him and his reputation.....yet claim to have loads of footage of him, and then give updates on where he's appearing this week.
Even your username shows how hypocritical you are. You've said yourself, that Seagal is fat, past his prime, molester and (most damningly) "worst Talk Show Host ever" (wow, what an illustrious award?) and yet you take his name as YOUR username (wtf?)
Quit whilst you're behind amigo, because every new post you make is embarrassing.
and this
is the icing on the cake
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Seagal1969
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Lee Nicholson: Probably a misunderstanding ´cause English is not my first language. I don´t want to brag with Seagal stuff I have. I just want to tell you that I´m still interested in Seagal, otherwise I won´t be on his fanpage.
But that doesn´t mean that I´m a fan of his last 8 movies or so. The Seagal I love was between 1988-1995.
Do you really think I´m interested what you think of me?
You can´t be serious. I don´t give a f..k what you think.
OK?
But that doesn´t mean that I´m a fan of his last 8 movies or so. The Seagal I love was between 1988-1995.
Do you really think I´m interested what you think of me?
You can´t be serious. I don´t give a f..k what you think.
OK?
I personally think that he made some decent movies between 2007 and 2010 (especially Pistol Whipped, Driven to Kill, The Keeper and A Dangerous Man). I really thought that they tried to make some solid movies there. Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I can’t see this efforts anymore with his latest movies.
Urban Justice and Born to raise hell had both its problems (UJ was way too dark and looks cheap, and BTRH had some bad editing), but at least they both have some solid fights with a surprisingly good camera work. The restaurant scene in BTRH for example had no doubles, cool moves from Seagal and a good camera work (which means you can clearly see what’s going on).
Pistol Whipped had some problems with the lighting too, but overall this was a solid movie (in my opinion probably the best since Exit Wounds) with good actors, a surprisingly nice story, great camera work and even some solid acting by Seagal. Maybe I’m the only one here, but I think he should work with Reiné again.
In my opinion in Driven to Kill he was pretty fit and slimmer than in a lot movies before and after. He don’t have to be in Exit Wounds shape again, but if he can manage to look like in DTK (with the beard, of course), I think it would be great. DTK also had its problems, but it was entertaining and had a nice showdown.
The Keeper and A Dangerous Man are -in my opinion- the best from Keoni Waxman. ADM had a bad story, but really a lot of nice action and it didn’t felt cheap. TK had great locations, overall good camera work and Seagal seemed motivated.
Machete was great in 2010, but after that no movie convinced me. I have the feeling the producers cut the budgets, because the movies look cheaper now. Also I don’t like the way Waxman films the fight scenes. The camera is mostly too close and sometimes there could be less doubles. After watching the trailer for AGM I’m also not sure if it was the right decision to film in Romania again. Maybe they are able to make some bigger action scenes there, but I don’t like the look so far, especially when I remember that Waxman did a nice job in TK regarding this.
The last movies felt tired and too cheap to me, I hope he will able to make some nice movies again, but at the moment I doubt it.
He said he would like to make a movie in China. I think that would be a good idea. They make some nice action movies there.
Urban Justice and Born to raise hell had both its problems (UJ was way too dark and looks cheap, and BTRH had some bad editing), but at least they both have some solid fights with a surprisingly good camera work. The restaurant scene in BTRH for example had no doubles, cool moves from Seagal and a good camera work (which means you can clearly see what’s going on).
Pistol Whipped had some problems with the lighting too, but overall this was a solid movie (in my opinion probably the best since Exit Wounds) with good actors, a surprisingly nice story, great camera work and even some solid acting by Seagal. Maybe I’m the only one here, but I think he should work with Reiné again.
In my opinion in Driven to Kill he was pretty fit and slimmer than in a lot movies before and after. He don’t have to be in Exit Wounds shape again, but if he can manage to look like in DTK (with the beard, of course), I think it would be great. DTK also had its problems, but it was entertaining and had a nice showdown.
The Keeper and A Dangerous Man are -in my opinion- the best from Keoni Waxman. ADM had a bad story, but really a lot of nice action and it didn’t felt cheap. TK had great locations, overall good camera work and Seagal seemed motivated.
Machete was great in 2010, but after that no movie convinced me. I have the feeling the producers cut the budgets, because the movies look cheaper now. Also I don’t like the way Waxman films the fight scenes. The camera is mostly too close and sometimes there could be less doubles. After watching the trailer for AGM I’m also not sure if it was the right decision to film in Romania again. Maybe they are able to make some bigger action scenes there, but I don’t like the look so far, especially when I remember that Waxman did a nice job in TK regarding this.
The last movies felt tired and too cheap to me, I hope he will able to make some nice movies again, but at the moment I doubt it.
He said he would like to make a movie in China. I think that would be a good idea. They make some nice action movies there.
Mason
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lee nicholson
Well-Known Member
Snappy comeback (you gotta be a ghostwriter for Russell Brand with that level of quickfire wit?)
So you're asking me if I think, that you think, what I think of you?....Cryptic, but Priceless!
The problem is, you don't seem to give a f..k what YOU think either. The words just fall out of that hole under your nose, but few of them make sense.
An example. How does this:
Become
So I'll politely ask you to drop the insults (as you're not very good at them, regardless of the language barrier) As much as I enjoy running rings around you... Your argument (or lack of) is starting to illicit sympathy in me. I feel like I'm bullying a child. So be a nice boy and stick your head out of your window to keep an eye out for when Seagal actually visits your town....then you can let us all know because, as you've said:
Save the arguments for people who can hold a semi-coherent sentence...Or at very least have something to say in the first place?
Seagal1969
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Lee Nicholson: You amuse me. You´re still watching the movies of the man though 98% of the people know that he´s doing "shit movies" right now, probably even Steven himself.
So keep watching his movies and enjoy them. I´m glad that my arguments is starting illicit sympathy in you. Actually I have the feeling I´m bullying a child because you got mad when somebody tells the truth about your hero. Everybody knows that Seagal is far away of being on top of his career. So do me a favor pal and get a cookie from your mum and don´t cry.
I don´t give a damn whether Seagal is visiting my hometown. It was just an information for the forum that Seagal will visit Germany for a Planet Hollywood opening.
Have a nice day and be a man instead of crying here.....
So keep watching his movies and enjoy them. I´m glad that my arguments is starting illicit sympathy in you. Actually I have the feeling I´m bullying a child because you got mad when somebody tells the truth about your hero. Everybody knows that Seagal is far away of being on top of his career. So do me a favor pal and get a cookie from your mum and don´t cry.
I don´t give a damn whether Seagal is visiting my hometown. It was just an information for the forum that Seagal will visit Germany for a Planet Hollywood opening.
Have a nice day and be a man instead of crying here.....
As for the 'Seagal beeing sick part', that story was posted about 2 days ago in Germany. Over a day later a message was posted by his crew from his official facebook that he was on his way to Europe for the tour.
Given the official character of that and the fact that there is no other information of this besides 2 or 3 German sites that qoute the original post I would have to say he probably isn't sick and on his way to Europe.
Ok, enough of the off topic posts. Back on topic please.
I will watch AGM but don't have any big expectations for it with the dissapointing movies of late.
Perhaps that will be the trick to enjoy the movie and who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Peace
Given the official character of that and the fact that there is no other information of this besides 2 or 3 German sites that qoute the original post I would have to say he probably isn't sick and on his way to Europe.
Ok, enough of the off topic posts. Back on topic please.
I will watch AGM but don't have any big expectations for it with the dissapointing movies of late.
Perhaps that will be the trick to enjoy the movie and who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Peace