Witnesses for Gotti say Seagal is a liar

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
Mr/Ms Haylen,

I am very sorry for these written !!

All these written bad about Steven Seagal, I think it is injustice for him !!
He is very special and very good
person !! I belive this, because Steven never said bad things about anybody !! People should think a little !!

Where is the justice ???????

Vulcarism is not Justice !! The ones you defend did it !! Is this justice ??

What is your justice Haylen ??


in oneness
 

TommyDeVito

New Member
You bet I take the mafia very seriouly! I've seen some of their "handiwork". A lot of it was the killing of their own kind but
killing none the less.

Unless you're part of the mafia's organization, you can't sit back and judge them all because they have killed people. I'm not saying that's right, but your an outsider to their world, so you have no idea what their "code of honor" is. You see killing as wrong, but maybe to them it's justified in some strange way. I'm not condoning cold blooded murder, but that's part of the world we live in. If your going to focus on the bad, try and look at some of the good. They aren't serial killers. They simply live by a different set of standards.
 

kickingbird

candle lighter
"Look at some of the good"?! BTW I'm not sitting back and judging - I've witnessed firsthand. Of what and where I can't say; suffice it to say that what I know of was NOT any "code of honor" ... more like "protecting their interests (business)". No amount of talk can ever convince me that the bullies have any "code of honor"! As far as "good", what I've seen is that they take care of their own (good?) but if someone crosses them, or attempts to expose them, they are killed. This is not "good". Different set of standards perhaps, but it doesn't mean one has to accept it.

"As one casts a stone into the pool, and watches the ripples move outward to the shores of that pool, who can say what those shores will feel when the ripples touch?"

In Oneness and Peace
 

TommyDeVito

New Member
Originally posted by kickingbird
"Look at some of the good"?! BTW I'm not sitting back and judging - I've witnessed firsthand. Of what and where I can't say; suffice it to say that what I know of was NOT any "code of honor" ... more like "protecting their interests (business)". No amount of talk can ever convince me that the bullies have any "code of honor"! As far as "good", what I've seen is that they take care of their own (good?) but if someone crosses them, or attempts to expose them, they are killed. This is not "good". Different set of standards perhaps, but it doesn't mean one has to accept it.

"As one casts a stone into the pool, and watches the ripples move outward to the shores of that pool, who can say what those shores will feel when the ripples touch?"

In Oneness and Peace


So I guess since you've witnessed it first hand, that must mean your in witness protection? LOL Watching the season finale of The Sopranos doesn't count Kicking. I never said there was honor in killing but unless you live in "their" world 24/7, you have zero clue as to how they operate and think. Did you know the people they killed? It's a safe bet they weren't innocent bystanders. That would be like somebody threatening your family and you don't do anything about it. Most people would kill whoever was stupid enough to make such a threat. It's not so much them feeling paranoid that somebody is going to expose them. Come on... The F.B.I. has known about them for decades. They just can't make evidence stick because half of them are so easily bought off, plus a few wire tap convos aren't going to put the top dogs away for life. Finally, I never said you have to accept their standards, but that doesn't mean you have to disregard their lifestyle and the code they live by either. People on this site seem to condemn alot of things which they simply don't seem to understand. There's alot of fascinating history about organized crime. That's why so many movies have been made and become popular because of it. It's not just about murder. The murder goes with the territory. Is that right? No, but outsiders can't judge the actions of others unless we live in their environment and understand the motivations behind what they feel they have to do.
 

kickingbird

candle lighter
Organized CRIME is just that. There's nothing fascinating about it, just as there's nothing fascinating about a 10 year old kid getting killed by gang warfare. Makes no difference it all comes down to how human beings behave towards one another. Some people simply prefer not to treat fellow human beings with such dark qualities. I believe it safe to say most people on this site are intelligent enough to understand organized CRIME. "The murder goes with the territory" ... what a strange statement.

Meanwhile, the "fascinating history" will go on and on and on ... but in the end, what glory is there?

One doesn't have to be on the "inside" to "judge" ... one only has to listen to that inner voice that explains "right" from "wrong". There are those who still know the difference.

In Oneness and Peace
 
Tommy/Memphis will always disagree just to cause friction on the forum(see his other posts for proof)...please kick him off the forum!!!!!This guy(is this guy even human?!)still has a evil NWO state of mind:(,and one we can do without here at the forum.It's just a shame I am not part of the admin team,otherwise Tommy/Memphis wouldn't be around here any longer.

I am sure I am not the only one thinking this.

Peace,

Leon
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Justice-I will submit your request to the moderator forum-as you know Craig at this point is the only one that can ban members,but moderators can edit & delete postings.
 

Dark Man X

New Member
What you people got against this Tommy guy? So what he disagrees with you. And wow he retypes your posts, there is war at hand, a failing economy and you get so upset because the guy reedits your posts? Big deal you don't like what the guy says ignore him.

But this is a laugh riot these people saying they know the mob first hand. Watching Sopranos don't count. If you saw any killings at all you are either A, in witness protection and just advertised that you know about these events in a public forum (smart) or you think no one will kill you for knowing it (smarter).

I know people that work with the mob, they don't kill anyone, they don't own guns. They are business men who work in legal operations. Furthermore anyone who has ever studied criminal justice knows that the mob is far different then it was in the 40s and for the most part is just a business group with a dark past.

Are you all that closed off that you think because some mafia kill people that they all pack guns and kill for fun? Thats the same as saying all Arabs are terrorists, all black people are in gangs, all Hispanics are drug dealers, all lawyers are crooks, all rock stars are junkies... Get the trend?
 

mandypuss

New Member
Hi All
I can stand this idiocy no longer. Who are these people in the Forum who are trying to justify what the mob do? I dont give a rats ass if these criminals kill for fun or profit, or revenge or for personal reasons. I dont care if they wear jeans and leather jackets or three piece Armani suits. I dont care if they do business in back alleys, penthouses or office buildings.
They are vicious thugs and killers who deal in extortion, prostitution,drugs, smuggling of arms and who knows what else. They protect their own families while destroying others. There is no justification of any kind for what they do. May they all get their own back ten times fold.
Luv & Peace
Mandy
 

Mama San

Administrator
Brother of John Gotti found guilty in Brooklyn court

By Ellen Wulfhorst

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A federal jury Monday found reputed crime boss Peter Gotti, brother of the late John Gotti, and six others guilty of extortion, bid-rigging and other crimes designed to control businesses on New York's waterfronts.

The seven men -- three of them Gotti relatives -- were convicted after seven days of deliberations by an anonymous jury in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn.

Prosecutors said they influenced dockworker union elections, rigged contracts, extorted money from businesses and dockworkers, ran illegal gambling operations and laundered illicit profits.

At the heart of the case -- laid out in a 68-count indictment of racketeering, money-laundering, conspiracy, fraud and loan-sharking charges -- were hundreds of tapes secretly recorded by government agents during a three-year investigation and played for jurors during the six-week trial.

The lengthy verdicts took 45 minutes to read aloud in court. A slight gasp went through the packed courtroom at the first guilty verdict for Gotti, but the convicted men remained expressionless.

Found guilty were Peter Gotti, 63, reputed head of the Gambino crime family and John Gotti's older brother, younger brother Richard V. Gotti, nephew Richard G. Gotti and four others.

"What are you going to do? My name is Gotti," Peter Gotti said after his conviction. "If my name wasn't Gotti, I wouldn't be here. All you have to have is the name. It's easy to convict."

Defense attorney Gerald Shargel had argued Gotti was tarred by sharing a last name with his notorious brother, who died in June 2002 of cancer while serving a life sentence in prison.

Peter Gotti, who with his loose jowls and ill-fitting suits bears only a slight resemblance to his late brother known as the "Dapper Don," will be sentenced later. Racketeering, the stiffest charge, carries a possible 20 year prison sentence.

He was acquitted when he last faced federal charges in 1991.

One witness in the trial was actor Steven Seagal who testified he was the victim of extortion threats by the Gambino crime family.

Prosecutor Katya Jestin, in her closing argument, said Gotti and his co-defendants were "cowards" who preyed upon hard-working immigrants and dockworkers.

03/17/03 16:05 ET
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...add one for the good guys!!!
God bless,
Mama san
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
This is good news for Steven Seagal...They (the convicted) can say all they want, but if the have no evidence they aren't exactly going to put them all away now are they?
 

Pat

New Member
Well there strategy of trying to make a lunatic and
a fool out of Steven sure didn't do them a bit of good.
I agree Mama San ONE FOR THE GOOD GUYS ESPECIALLY
STEVEN
 
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