Bad Seagal News In
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I'm afraid you're living in a fantasy world, my dear. Even if one discounts 90% of the bad press, what's left over still doesn't paint a very nice picture of the man himself. If there were an equal amount of good press to balance the bad, then yes, I'd say there was room to doubt. But the press is ALL bad - and even the few nice things that are said about him are said in words so carefully chosen, you have to wonder what's not being said.
I've got no illusions about the Steven the man outside of his film personae. So many bad reports about how he behaves, particularly around women, and yet, people still believe that ALL such reports are false? Come on - I've got the hots for him myself, but I'm not that blinded by his physical, um, attributes. Steven Seagal may be many things outside of the studio, but I doubt dignified and respectful are among them. The more I read about him, the more I'm grateful I probably never will meet him. Better to live with the illusion one generates from the on-screen persona than to discover your hero has feet of clay.
I've got no illusions about the Steven the man outside of his film personae. So many bad reports about how he behaves, particularly around women, and yet, people still believe that ALL such reports are false? Come on - I've got the hots for him myself, but I'm not that blinded by his physical, um, attributes. Steven Seagal may be many things outside of the studio, but I doubt dignified and respectful are among them. The more I read about him, the more I'm grateful I probably never will meet him. Better to live with the illusion one generates from the on-screen persona than to discover your hero has feet of clay.
Lotussan said:
Don't say I didn't warn you... I was physically sick when I read this. The worst part is the fact that the story was not decried as utterly false by his own lawyer, it was only claimed to be 'distorted'. It leaves one wondering, and with a very bad feeling in the bottom of one's heart...
http://www.suntimes.co.za/2002/10/13/backpage/backpage01.asp
By the way, this isn't the only place this story appears - I found at least 2 other sites that carried the same story, some with more details than what even this one had.
If this were the *only* such story about him, I'd blow it off as rubbish, as it deserved. The trouble is, there are too many other independent reports of his questionable behaviour to discount it 100%. And even his own lawyer doesn't discount it 100% (if, indeed, it were entirely false).
I think the kind of man he plays in the movies is the kind of man he'd like to be, but isn't in real life. I'll take the on-screen Steven any day.
-TD, preparing to take fire. (or, the link or this entire post may be deleted by the moderators, to avoid ill-feeling. I will not object if they do.)
Dear my friend,
ahaaa !! I know this TD !! Ahnume he is the best student of him. He was the member of Steven Seagal Official Site. Steven presented this Ahnume too many important places !! I know this because he is writing himself. Finally Ahnume said too many bad things about Steven. Now look at this guy's site !
http://www.shinkenaikido.hpg.ig.com.br/aikiphotos.htm
http://www.shinkenaikido.hpg.ig.com.br/ahnumeguerios2.htm
He is writing good things about Steven. He is using Steven's photographs on his site.for what ?? of course for his presentations, his promotions !! Why is he clear these photos ??
I don't believe this guy! He is liar!! some sentences takes different meanings if you are put them for another place ! May be Steven made joke !!( I hope you understand what I mean!!) who know may be he took a money form someone or somewhere ?? Who know what is happening ??
Yes you are right This article is very very very bad but I am not sure is true or not !!
in oneness
ahaaa !! I know this TD !! Ahnume he is the best student of him. He was the member of Steven Seagal Official Site. Steven presented this Ahnume too many important places !! I know this because he is writing himself. Finally Ahnume said too many bad things about Steven. Now look at this guy's site !
http://www.shinkenaikido.hpg.ig.com.br/aikiphotos.htm
http://www.shinkenaikido.hpg.ig.com.br/ahnumeguerios2.htm
He is writing good things about Steven. He is using Steven's photographs on his site.for what ?? of course for his presentations, his promotions !! Why is he clear these photos ??
I don't believe this guy! He is liar!! some sentences takes different meanings if you are put them for another place ! May be Steven made joke !!( I hope you understand what I mean!!) who know may be he took a money form someone or somewhere ?? Who know what is happening ??
Yes you are right This article is very very very bad but I am not sure is true or not !!
in oneness
Nassau Mike
Member
I saw this and actually have the original article. It was in The Enquirer or The Star(VERY RELIABLE SOURCE THERE) and was given to them by this guy who was mad at Seagal, who he said had owed him money..No reliable source published this crap because that is what it was..
This guy was a member on the old official site too and used to praise Seagal until he had a financial dispute with him..
It was a funny article though-some funny **** was written in the whole article. Some of the stories were so obviously ridiculous and un-true..
There have been bad articles before about Seagal that had some truth to them but this one was just a joke that most people took for what it was-bull****!!
This guy was a member on the old official site too and used to praise Seagal until he had a financial dispute with him..
It was a funny article though-some funny **** was written in the whole article. Some of the stories were so obviously ridiculous and un-true..
There have been bad articles before about Seagal that had some truth to them but this one was just a joke that most people took for what it was-bull****!!
Nassau Mike
Member
He was very happy with Seagal and was a student of him for a while but at some point in time he accused Seagal of owing him some money which Seagal denied. When Seagal did not pay him he started writing all of these stories about his so called sex life and how he hated gay people and how Seagal was taking bottles of pills to improve his sex drive to keep up with all the young women that he says that he had to bring in for Seagal.
It was a very funny story but it was all written because he had a beef with Seagal and was trying to mess up his character since Seagal would not give in to his claims for money..
As you remember on the old site, this guy used to always be praising Seagal as such a great person and teacher until he had this financial disagreement with him.
Some friend he was-you can see why Seagal dont trust too many people-especially those in the press. Its not surprising that The Enquirer would write such a story though-thats what they do with a lot of stars. It sells their papers and all you can do is sue them which will be a long drawn out affair that will cost more than its worth..
It was a very funny story but it was all written because he had a beef with Seagal and was trying to mess up his character since Seagal would not give in to his claims for money..
As you remember on the old site, this guy used to always be praising Seagal as such a great person and teacher until he had this financial disagreement with him.
Some friend he was-you can see why Seagal dont trust too many people-especially those in the press. Its not surprising that The Enquirer would write such a story though-thats what they do with a lot of stars. It sells their papers and all you can do is sue them which will be a long drawn out affair that will cost more than its worth..
Nassau Mike
Member
It was around this time that Seagal was rumoured to be making the movie "House of Thunder" which was to be filmed in the Brazilian tropical rainforest..
For the most part you can only believe half of what you see and nothing that you read-especially from a tabloid.
I bet if you asked this guy about that story now, even he would deny it or say that he was misquoted because it came out as more embarrassing to him in the long run.
For the most part you can only believe half of what you see and nothing that you read-especially from a tabloid.
I bet if you asked this guy about that story now, even he would deny it or say that he was misquoted because it came out as more embarrassing to him in the long run.
I know this man clearly from the old site Nassau. At last one day he entered the old site and he disclaimered himself !! Did you remember this ???
"you can see why Seagal dont trust too many people-especially those in the press"
Definitely Seagal right !!! Because he knows who is who !!
in oneness
"you can see why Seagal dont trust too many people-especially those in the press"
Definitely Seagal right !!! Because he knows who is who !!
in oneness
Lotussan
I Belong To Steven
Storm said:
There are rumours but you are right Lotus to suggest no proof. Even if he did there would be a few female volunteers here!
I am sure he has flirted with many women, just like any red blooded man, so he's a bit confident, I see nothing wrong with that, it's part of the reason I am so attracted to him...He's got some guts...All women are different, perhaps some are highly offended by the direct approach, some prefer it...As for the volunteering, well, what can I say...
That all depends on exactly what you are talking about, but please don't elaborate for my sake, that would be kind of disrespectful to talk about here...
So that's the background to the story... When I first tracked down the source and saw that it was originally published in the National Enquirer, I immediately discounted about 90%. The only reason I didn't completely throw the whole thing away was because Steven dumped his wife for a 20-year-old girl (and that is an irrefutable fact).
However.
While taking the view that even paranoids have real enemies, I still find it difficult to reconcile that there are SO MANY bad stories about Steven out there. I mean, I have never seen so many bad reports about one individual, anywhere. It's really, really hard for me to believe that they have ALL been made up. No smoke without fire.
He may not be as much of a lunatic and a pig as the published stories make him out to be, but there's enough there to make me suspicious.
He certainly seems to have a facility for making enemies.
However.
While taking the view that even paranoids have real enemies, I still find it difficult to reconcile that there are SO MANY bad stories about Steven out there. I mean, I have never seen so many bad reports about one individual, anywhere. It's really, really hard for me to believe that they have ALL been made up. No smoke without fire.
He may not be as much of a lunatic and a pig as the published stories make him out to be, but there's enough there to make me suspicious.
He certainly seems to have a facility for making enemies.
Disciple
come get some
First of all, that "story" about the Brazilian sex doctor is such tabloid nonsense that it isn't even worth commenting on.
I wouldn't pass judgement on Seagal leaving his wife for a 20 year old girl because none of us know the full set of circumstances behind it. How do we know his wife didn't do something to cause it? I'm not saying she deserved it or anything, but there's all kinds of possible reasons for him going with another woman. It might be his fault, it might be her fault, it might be down to both of them. Relationships are always complex. And it's the tabloid gossip merchants who really go out of their way to paint a certain picture of Seagal when they say he "dumped" his wife for a younger woman, to imply certain negative things about his character. You have to understand the nature of the people who write these things.
In his career, I imagine there are far more people who have gotten rubbed the wrong way by Seagal than there are people who like him. I'll be the first to admit that he's not really a "people person", in interviews he is often closed and standoffish, and he doesn't always play the nice kiss-kiss game as a movie star is normally expected to do. In Hollywood, that can be very harmful to your image. People who take a dislike to you can start making life very difficult. And anyway, people always enjoy making up stories about celebrities, and making assumptions about their private life without the full facts, just so they can have something juicy to gossip about. They have a perverted, ghoulish fascination with sordid details that 9 times out of 10 have been made up by the journo. I agree that there is often "no smoke without fire" but to believe some of these outlandish stories I think one would have to be very gullible indeed.
And to bring back my earlier point, Seagal is a 7th dan Aikido master. I have seen the way that 7th dan martial artists conduct themselves, and they DO NOT go around behaving like these articles would have you believe.
Just remember, the pen is mightier than the sword (or in this case, the Aikido arm snap). And that's all I have to say about that.
I'll finish with the Sensei's own words:
"People call me all kinds of things, including four letter words. I respond to all of them. When I walk into a room some people see a dog, some people see a cow; I am all of what they see, it is their perception. But I do believe that buddhanature is in all of us, even in a mangy dog lying in the gutter with fleas. That dog is Buddha to me. People can call me anything they want, I respond to anything."
I wouldn't pass judgement on Seagal leaving his wife for a 20 year old girl because none of us know the full set of circumstances behind it. How do we know his wife didn't do something to cause it? I'm not saying she deserved it or anything, but there's all kinds of possible reasons for him going with another woman. It might be his fault, it might be her fault, it might be down to both of them. Relationships are always complex. And it's the tabloid gossip merchants who really go out of their way to paint a certain picture of Seagal when they say he "dumped" his wife for a younger woman, to imply certain negative things about his character. You have to understand the nature of the people who write these things.
In his career, I imagine there are far more people who have gotten rubbed the wrong way by Seagal than there are people who like him. I'll be the first to admit that he's not really a "people person", in interviews he is often closed and standoffish, and he doesn't always play the nice kiss-kiss game as a movie star is normally expected to do. In Hollywood, that can be very harmful to your image. People who take a dislike to you can start making life very difficult. And anyway, people always enjoy making up stories about celebrities, and making assumptions about their private life without the full facts, just so they can have something juicy to gossip about. They have a perverted, ghoulish fascination with sordid details that 9 times out of 10 have been made up by the journo. I agree that there is often "no smoke without fire" but to believe some of these outlandish stories I think one would have to be very gullible indeed.
And to bring back my earlier point, Seagal is a 7th dan Aikido master. I have seen the way that 7th dan martial artists conduct themselves, and they DO NOT go around behaving like these articles would have you believe.
Just remember, the pen is mightier than the sword (or in this case, the Aikido arm snap). And that's all I have to say about that.
I'll finish with the Sensei's own words:
"People call me all kinds of things, including four letter words. I respond to all of them. When I walk into a room some people see a dog, some people see a cow; I am all of what they see, it is their perception. But I do believe that buddhanature is in all of us, even in a mangy dog lying in the gutter with fleas. That dog is Buddha to me. People can call me anything they want, I respond to anything."
Nassau Mike
Member
TDWoj said:
According to Seagal in his interview on Larry King he did'nt even get to know Arissa until after his breakup with Kelly. Arissa was a friend of Kelly's and Seagal said that she called him after he and Kelly broke up and they became friends thereafter. There was never nothing going on with him and Arissa when he and Kelly were married-that was a tabloid story as well and was assumed to be the reason for their breakup.
ASSUMPTION is the mother of all ****ups!.
I really believe that Seagal loved Kelly and it hurt him when they broke up but she decided to leave him and was then going with a much younger man before Seagal and Arissa got close..
I'd almost buy that story except that he had to have known Arissa, who was living in the house with them at the time as the nanny, in order to name his daughter after her. So that assertion, that he didn't even know her until after he and Kelly broke up, is a crock. For one thing, he put her in On Deadly Ground, and that was LONG before the break-up with Kelly. It don't add up, Mike - sorry, but his story just doesn't add up.
Rodrigo
Lucky Member
I have NEVER heard or seen some news regarding Seagal and Brazil, if it was true, it would come out first here. I didn't heard anything, and no women said she had something with Seagal, and if they, or she had, the press would know very quickly...
Now, Seagal filming in the Amazon forest, it should have been super !!!!! Different movie, hope he can film some movie here some day..
Now, Seagal filming in the Amazon forest, it should have been super !!!!! Different movie, hope he can film some movie here some day..
Rodrigo
Lucky Member
hahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What an article ah ?
Ahnume Guerios is not a Brazilian name, and I doubt he is Brazilian, I doubt he even exists...
I've never heard Sapaim, NEVER !!!!!!!! People still think Brazil is a big jungle.... there are only indians here, the indians are very few now, oh my God !! hahahahahaha Like Jerry Seinfeld once said, "Tabloids come up with stuff and it's ok, I think people who read tabloids deserve to be lied to"
If Steven Seagal had came to Brazil, people would see him, press would take pictures !!!!!!!! My Godness, I can't believe !!!!!!!!
Ahnume Guerios is not a Brazilian name, and I doubt he is Brazilian, I doubt he even exists...
I've never heard Sapaim, NEVER !!!!!!!! People still think Brazil is a big jungle.... there are only indians here, the indians are very few now, oh my God !! hahahahahaha Like Jerry Seinfeld once said, "Tabloids come up with stuff and it's ok, I think people who read tabloids deserve to be lied to"
If Steven Seagal had came to Brazil, people would see him, press would take pictures !!!!!!!! My Godness, I can't believe !!!!!!!!