hi hope

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
Trinity said:
All I'm saying is we deserve some love back.Ok we are not his friend up the street or family or at least myself his student,but we are here every day suporting his movies,music, Aikido and spiritual self rain or shine.We are human beings too and need a hug now and then even if it's via the internet.:)


I agree %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%100000000000000000 !!

:)

in oneness
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
It's been suggested he has been watching all along as a member but i doubt it. Reveal yourself! Lol. Whatever his reasons, contacting fans is way down his list as he has proved.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
If he is here sometimes, I don't think he is ever going to be obvious...
As far as not contacting his fans, I can't really blame him, but I can always hope and pray....:)
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
TD made an interesting remark which makes me why not?

Why should he be leery of making an appearance on an internet web site? Someone going to hit or shoot at him via the internet?
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
It could get dicey, engaging with people over the internet. I mean, can you imagine the response if he did show up, his ownself? The nutters would crawl out of the woodwork in the blink of an eye. He'd get bombarded with questions he'd probably not want to answer, comments about his movies/weight/lack of fighting in recent flicks/etc. he'd probably not want to see and expressions of undying love and devotion that would make his skin crawl (unless he got off on that sort of thing) and no graceful way to deal with any of them except to ignore them, or risk getting even more bad press by what he did answer (especially if the answer wasn't to the liking of the person asking the question/making the comment).

It's also way too easy to forget that this is a public board, and that one is not having a private conversation with one individual, but a very public one with hundreds (or more!) looking on and "eavesdropping", and not just those who are registered here, either.

I observed, for example, that when the papers were reporting on his testimony against the Mafia and the Nasso lawsuit, on another website that was "keeping an eye" on Steven, the person reported that he went to the official site and checked the message board to see what the fans were saying about the testimony and/or the lawsuit, and all the fans were talking about there was his weight, and nothing at all about the lawsuit or the testimony, as if his weight was more important than his personal safety and well-being, at least as far as the fans were concerned. So, it should be noted that it may not just be "us" who are necessarily participating in this on-line conversation.

Steven doesn't strike me as someone who is very easy around people, anyhow, and the on-line community, as any community, has its share of, shall we say, less than friendly inhabitants.

A conversation with the calm, kind and friendly elements would soon be lost in the backwash of trolls and nutters, and he'd beat it out of here faster than you can say "Under Seige", as he did on the official message board.

Granted, the offical message board was poorly moderated and I doubt anything like that would happen here, but a few such could easily slip past the moderators here (I mean, even they have to sleep and go to work/school/whatever and have dinner, too!).

There's also the time factor. I mean, we've got time on our hands to hang out here, but does he? Realistically, I'd say not.

However-!

That doesn't mean he shouldn't acknowledge his fans, of course. And you're right, Amos, it's not as though anyone could "hit" him physically through the internet. But there are "hits" he could take that would be far worse, considering his adversarial relationship with the press (and people in general, it seems, sometimes). He's probably safer staying out than coming in.

-TD, playing Devil's Advocate - oops, that would make Steven the Devil. But he's not, so that would make the foregoing TD wrote as Steven's Advocate, except I'm not - okay, how do I get out of this one?

-TD, looking around nervously....
 

Trinity

My Hero.
Very true TD although a quick"I still remember you all"would not hurt him(I would think it would help him as far as his relationship with his fans)There will always be jerks out there,but we stuck by him no matter what.If there are those out there watching the site for anything to start trouble with well they won't last on this board long and they can leave with this"We Like Steven Seagal and Will Stand By That No Matter What!!!!" I think this board is pretty safe for Mr.Seagal and fans alike.Now I'm looking around nervous with TD ummmm.....we're safe here right Craig?lol:)
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
WEll I recall on his message board when Jamie had a forum for us to put forth questions to him & they picked 5 out..that way the idiot ones can be avoided.That didn't take long out of his schedule I'm sure.

I know people have mentioned that other celebrities do the same kind of thing on their web sites & also even visit the chat room-like in Chuck Norris case..4 times a year.But I would say that a chat room you wouldn't have much control over who is saying what.
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
The screened questions are a good idea. The one appearance he did make (which I saw through a link at Turboman's site), though, was not to a question specifically directed to him, but was just a general question which he chose to answer (and didn't that get all the little lambs', um, fans' hearts going a-flutter).

Boy, wouldn't that be something?

But it'll never happen.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Well, I would never want to make his skin crawl, so I think I will keep my comments to myself from now on...:rolleyes:
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
TD - more good points. I think I like you! :D

I would just like to make the point that upon visiting here this morning, my San Miguel blurred eyes having just woken from a deep slumber, I was struck by how this site is far, far better than the 'official' site ever was or could ever hope to be. In fact, it is possibly the best Seagal fansite on the internet at the moment. Of course - the one and only drawback is that on the official site, we were occasionally given glimpses of Seagal news which was officially endorsed by Seagal and those close to him, something which this site unfortunately has no access to. However, the depressing layout and boring appearance of the old website along with the ridiculous, bloated, self-congratulatory style of prose concerning Seagal (for example, the stunningly amusing and sadly, completely inaccuate line found in the biography section: "as his movies continue to break box-office records around the world") and the crap message board moderation effectively signed it's death knell. All credit to Craig for doing such a fantastic job on here. I'm off to play Splinter Cell some more. See you all later.

Glimmer
 

Mama San

Administrator
As I remember, we we did "discuss" Steven's
situation concerning the mob and Nerdo but,
for the most part, I believe that we found it
a bad idea to speculate on his web site. Of
course, then the site went down. As for the
"reporter", he was probably too busy looking
for dirt, not what the fans were actually talking
or concerned about.
The old message board was just like this one,
(re: accessing the board) and all the others
on the web. You do not have to be a "member"
to read the posts, you just can't "reply" unless
you are a member.
Does Steven come here? I don't know. But considering a few comments that have been made here from time to time maybe he feels "why should I go to that web site when they talk about me that way"? But, if he does venture here from time to time, I do hope that he realizes that 99% of us are on his side and we do defend him whenever we feel it necessary.
If he did post anything here, the moderators would really have to be on their toes, watching and making sure that the morons, perverts and idiots didn't get a chance to start their stupidity.
As we have said before, we will never allow this
message board to go the way of the "old message board"! That was what went wrong with the "old board", no moderators!
God bless,
Mama san
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Thanks Casey...
Some people here have some feelings and are quite aware that Steven does too, I only hope that if he reads here, he knows as you said that most of us are on his side...
Some people here think I go too far, but I am not the one bitching all the time, I am just trying to show that I care and that support him and just in case he is reading I want to let him know...
So I think he's wonderful, why beat me up for that?
My opinion is my opinion...
All that really matters to me is Steven, anyway, and the dear friends here who have shown me that they really care....:)
 

Trinity

My Hero.
No ones beating you up.This place would not be the same without you Lotus or Suzi or Mama San or yes GlimmerMan and TD and many others.It's just if I ask a question or decide to walk the message board razors edge alittle,don't feel you need to sell me on Mr.Seagal.I've been a fan since"Above The Law"I'm just being Trinity:)
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
Trinity - of couse this place wouldn't be the same without me! It would probably be much better! Hahaha!

As for the rare negativity - there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism - nobody on here has ever launched an all out attack on Seagal and I feel that were the moderators to start deleting anything that is remotely negative or critical then that would be taking things a bit far. I'm sure that if Seagal himself is a reasonable man, then he would take constructive criticism on board and take steps to rectify whatever small errors he has made.

Even if he did come here (which I seriously doubt), he would probably be more embarrassed than anything that somebody who doesn't even know him has taken so much time and effort in creating a website that is ten times better than his official one. If you love and worship Seagal, that's fine. However, if your blinkered view of the world of Seagal doesn't allow you to see some of the negative things that he has done, then that's pretty sad.

Surely we - his true fans deserve more than this? I would rather have had an awesome official website full of updates and personal messages from the man himself than him continually churning out turgid excuses for movies like Ticker and Half Past Dead. The excuses made for him like: "I'm sure he has very little time on his hands" don't wash with me, I'm afraid. There are many people in Hollywood who work harder than him and if the likes of Schwarzenegger, Jackie Chan or Jet Li can have excellent, informative, well-maintained, frequently updated and personalised official sites than there is no reason why we can't. Yes, Seagal supposedly has other projects outside of movies but show me a movie star who doesn't. Seagal doesn't have that many fans left these days and more and more detractors come crawling out of the woodwork with each new low-budget, STV movie that he makes. Some things just have to be said and nobody seems able to say them!

That's my rant over for another night. I hope you are all having a good one!

Glimmer
 

Trinity

My Hero.
Good points Glimmer! Oh and the message board cornors not that bad,but Man they think anything said on the boards bad?They should read some of the stuff written on the walls of the cornor!:D
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
An acknowledgement from Steven would be nice but don't hold your breath! Like Glimmer and others, i reserve the right to comment on negative aspects on him if need be. Amos hit the nail on the head when he said selected qs. could be answered (if it could be arranged).
Ps.Lotus, you are unique here so keep up the good work!
 

Trinity

My Hero.
Please don't get angry at me Lotus(by the way nice picture of you on the official site:))If shuting down the other site was a spanking for all the trouble there(Trinity looking around current site)I think it missed it's mark!:)
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Angry at you?
Why would I be?
Don't worry, I'm not....:)
Huh? My picture was/is at the official site?
Hmmm...
I'm afraid I am a bit confused, what picture?
What or who, do you mean?
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
I've never seen your pic and i remember seeing G-Man, suzi and others at the old pics thread at the old board..By the way Lotus, you are welcome. Anyone can see you're crazy about Seagal but it's not a crime! I get a strong impression that many of the female members like Seagal for his looks as much as his films but speaking for myself, it's admiration of a great action star.
 

Trinity

My Hero.
One of the reasons I like him is he's kinda mysterious,you never know with him.Trying to figure him out is like a clime up Mount Everest.:)
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
I just like him for soooo many reasons, hard to explain...
He has a lot of talent and charisma, it's a powerful presence he has...
He's got a special dignity about him...
And something that draws you in...
And yes he is very easy on the eyes, too...;)
But I think he has a lot of things going for him, and it's a lot more than just the looks, yes he's quite mysterious too, and that's exciting...:)
I think you all must be mistaken about my photo...
If I knew how I would put one here so you could see...
 
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