Aikido/Jeet Kune Do

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
I can visualize the speed of Bruce Lee's kicks and punches reaching Steven Seagal's body, but i can also see the speed of Sensei Steven Seagal's centrifugal side stepping behind Bruce's intercepting fist, wrist locking, and dislocating Bruce's hand
So much for Jeet Kune Do
 

Mama San

Administrator
He wouldn't!! That was not Bruce's way.
It isn't Steven's way either.
The very idea is ridiculous!
God bless,
Mama san
 

fell

New Member
Mama san;176544 said:
He wouldn't!! That was not Bruce's way.
It isn't Steven's way either.
The very idea is ridiculous!
God bless,
Mama san

Bruce look accepted challengers from all comers. He was known for it. Of course the entire premise is flawed because jeet kune do is a philosophy of learning martial arts and not a specific style. Someone can practice jeet kune do and still be an aikido master. Bruce lee in his prime was undoubtedly in better athletic condition as well as being a far more well rounded fighter.
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
don wilkey;176495 said:
I can visualize the speed of Bruce Lee's kicks and punches reaching Steven Seagal's body, but i can also see the speed of Sensei Steven Seagal's centrifugal side stepping behind Bruce's intercepting fist, wrist locking, and dislocating Bruce's hand
So much for Jeet Kune Do

Huh?
 

ad_adrian

Twitter: adadrian
don wilkey;176515 said:
i just see humility in every jeet kune do artist that comes up against an aikido master

why do you think that jeet kune do is useless to aikdio?>
 

kickman

kickman
I have studied, as a student in Jeet Kune Do, various elements / concepts of Jeet Kune Do. I have also been an Aikido student for many years. I have entered full-contact events (in my slightly earlier years...LOL) where you find out what works. They are both very valuable tools that one should become seriously involved with prior to making any theories. I love the joint locks and off balancing of Aikido. However the reality of it is the ability to apply them when being assaulted. I train religiously. Yet still a mere student. If you "lock-up" with an opponent.....Aikido is extremely beneficial.....prior to that, its tough and you may need back up. I am involved with Law enforcement and get to utilize both angles, sometimes unwillingly. Exploration is the only truth. This is what Bruce Lee was all about - - -As was Ueshiba in many ways.
 

Littledragon

Above The Law
don wilkey;176495 said:
I can visualize the speed of Bruce Lee's kicks and punches reaching Steven Seagal's body, but i can also see the speed of Sensei Steven Seagal's centrifugal side stepping behind Bruce's intercepting fist, wrist locking, and dislocating Bruce's hand
So much for Jeet Kune Do

And I can also visualize Paris Hilton beating King Kong... :rolleyes:
 

Hagar

New Member
Hey everyone Hagar here. I just happened on to this forum while I was looking for gray colored gi's. Thought I'd stop in and see what it was all about. First let me say this as I see it anyone that has taken the time and effort to learn a martial art deserves respect. Second for every one there is a perfect art a lot depends on body type. In the last 20 years I have had the privledge of studying several martial arts. The one I continue to study and teach is Combat Ju-Jitsu and other arts of the Samurai. Aikido and Jeet Kune DO are great arts but no matter how good the art is if it is taught poorly it becomes a poor art. Hoshin Hopkido, Kempo, Judo and all the many different arts are all good if taught properly.It just depends on what you want, I don't want to fight in a ring or cage I simply want to eliminate my threat so that they will on longer be a threat to me or anyone again. The best Martial Art is the one that you spend a life time learning. But that's just my opinion.
Train Hard Live Safe
Hagar
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
As Bruce himself said: "If you pour water into a cup, it becomes the cup, if you pour it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot... Be like water, my friend!"
 

Mama San

Administrator
Wise words, Hagar.
Welcome to the Unoffical Steven Seagal Web Site!
Enjoy!!
God bless,
Mama san
 

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bens85

Active Member
Jeet Kune Do is not a style. Jeet Kune Do is application of techniques that work best for you in practical self defence/fighting, no matter what style it is pulled from. No one martial arts technique or system is more superior to the other - these are merely just various 'disciplines' that you can encounter and 'develop' yourself in, whether it is striking orientated (Taekwondo, Karate, Boxing), Grappling (Hapkido, Aikido), Weapons (Escrima, Kendo) - these arts benefit you in different ways.

It doesn't matter whether you want to fight in competition, learn self defence, or merely just be motivated for General fitness - the art doesnt make the fighter - its what the fighter makes of the art

Bruce Lee revolutionized martial arts in his concept of 'Jeet Kune Do', which once again, is not a style, but rather, it is Bruce Lee's personal philosophy of martial arts. He researched, took methods and elements of various styles and disciplines, and adapted them into a practical self defence system that worked for him. The philosophy and ideals of 'Jeet Kune Do' though are expired, because it was Bruce Lee's personal vision, and sadly 'Jeet Kune Do' now is merely an archive of Bruce Lee's research of martial arts, because he is no longer with us to progress it further.

But the idea, the philosophy behind 'Jeet Kune Do' is what all serious martial artists should consider. It doesn't mean you should cross train in multiple styles for the sake of expanding your knowledge, but rather, you should not be biased to your chosen style and criticise others - martial arts has created endless horizons for people of different cultures and backgrounds to share their knowledge and grow - so you should always keep an open mind to other arts.

Bruce Lee was known to strongly oppose the practical element of Karate in fighting - but regardless, he spent alot of time researching the art anyway, learning the techniques and their applications.

I encourage all here who are interest in martial arts to continue to expand your horizons and educate yourself. Your growth in martial arts should never be limited by your chosen formal tuition in a particular style - you should always be open minded and take the time to research and learn of different styles, methods and techniques. That is the essence of martial arts.

Regards,
Ben.
 

Donald Lee Wilkey

A Steven Seagal fan
ad_adrian;177555 said:
why do you think that jeet kune do is useless to aikdio?>

jeet kune do was never in accordance with ki or chi or flowing energy. Therefore, jkd is ineffective up against a master of bagua, hsing i, tai chi, or aikido arts which incoporate the exercises of qigong/chi kung breathing.
 

tigerfeet

Tigerfeet
I'm with Mama San - those are wise words Hagar.
I would just add too, that learning a martial art is about more than fighting, or defense. It is about discovering your own spirit, your strengths and your limitations, and becoming a better person for it.
It does mean a lifetime of study, but that is part of the appeal. Martial arts is about mastery of yourself, not of a technique.
 
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