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Hi is anyone as high in Aikido as Seagal?

#2
Nope. I am a 3rd degree blackbelt in Tae Kwon Do though testing for 4th soon.

I studied Aikido but I want to go to Japan to study Aikido so now I study Brazilillian Jiu-Jitsu.
 
#3
facts

IT would take some doing considering its taken him 30 years to atrtain what he has. there are some that are a 10th dan but were talking lifetime committment there. if you see Aikido World Journal.com it will show photos and ranks of senseis including Stevens (7th)

I would love to hear from some high officials too!
 
#4
Still, thought, about Seagal's rank...

I clearly remember the original official site saying that Seagal had received an 8th dan in Aikido...
 

Serena

Administrator
#5
Don't know how accurate this is, but thought some of you might find it interesting. :)

http://indomaresa.tripod.com/articletopyudansha.htm

Highest Ranking Living Yudansha by Ubaldo Alcantara

Ladies and Gentlemen,
The Kami Hall of Fame presents...
The Non-Japanese High-Ranking List of Living Yudansha!
(Last Update).
Corrections, additions, etc...are welcome!
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Karl Geis - Fugakukai, Texas (USA), 10th Dan
Thamby Rajah - Shudokan, Malaysia, 9th Dan
Shinichi Suzuki ?Ki-Aikido, Hawaii(USA), 8th Dan
Takashi Nonaka ?Ki-Aikido, Hawaii(USA), 8th Dan
Harry Eto - Ki-Aikido, Hawaii (USA), 8th Dan
Alain Floquet ?Yoseikan, France, 8th Dan
Patrick Auge - Yoseikan, California(USA), 8th Dan
Henry Copeland - Fugakukai, Alabama(USA), 8th Dan
W.W. "Mac" McNease - Fugakukai, Texas(USA), 8th Dan
Georges Stobbaerts ?Butokukai, Portugal, 8th Dan
Amos Parker ?Yoshinkai, USA, 8th Dan
Michel Soulenq - Aikikai, France, 7th Dan
Christian Tissier ?Aikikai, France, 7th Dan
Gerard Blaize ?Aikikai, France, 7th Dan
Robert Kubo ?Aikikai, Hawaii(USA), 7th Dan
Donald Moriyama - Ki-Aikido, Hawaii(USA), 7th Dan
Christopher Curtis ?Ki-Aikido, Hawaii(USA), 7th Dan
Lee Ah Loi - Tomiki, England, 7th Dan (JAA)
John Waite ?Tomiki/England, 7th JAA/BAA, 5th BJA
Brian Eustace ?Tomiki/England, 7th Dan BAA (He no longer participates in that organization) (*)
Robert Forrest-West ?Tomiki/England, 7th Dan BAA
William Lawrence ?Tomiki/England, 7th Dan BAA
Erhard Altenbrandt, DAB, Germany, 7th Dan
Rolf Brand, DAB, Germany, 7th Dan
Gerhardt Walter, Aikikai, Germany, 7th Dan
Kevin Blok, World Kobudo Federation(Aikido Section), 7th Dan
Giampietro Savegnago, Aikikai(?), Italy, 7th Dan
John Allen - Fugakukai, W. Virginia(USA), 7th Dan
Robert Aoyagi - Aikikai, Hawaii(USA), 7th Dan
Charles Caldwell - Fugakukai, Colorado(USA), 7th Dan
Stewart Chan - Seidokan, California(USA), 7th Dan
Chuck Clark - Jiyushinkai, Arizona(USA), 7th Dan
Frank Doran - Aikikai, California(USA), 7th Dan
Richard Hirao - Aikikai, Hawaii(USA), 7th Dan
Rianard Jackson - Fugakukai, Texas(USA), 7th Dan
Tim Joe - Fugakukai, Texas(USA), 7th Dan
Harvey Konigsberg ?Aikikai, (USA), 7th Dan
Robert Nadeau - Aikikai, California(USA), 7th Dan
Clif Norgaard - Fugakukai, Arkansas(USA), 7th Dan
Steven Seagal - Aikikai, California(USA), 7th Dan
William Witt - Aikikai, California(USA), 7th dan
Harry Wright - Fugakukai, Alabama(USA), 7th Dan
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(*) The BAA informed that Mr. Brian Eustace is involved with another art ?Taiho Jutsu - and is no longer a participant in Tomiki Aikido activities. We have included him, however, since his name and ranking were recognized by that organization.

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P.S. It should be noted that :
a) this list is not intended to signify that ranks are all important;
b) it makes no comparisons between ranks in different organizations. The Fugakukai has the same number of ranks as in Judo (10); Tomiki Style goes only until 8th Dan; and so on;
c) According to my personal tastes there are some 8th Dan that I may consider equivalent of another 4th or 5th Dan and there is at least one 3rd Dan which I consider very much worthy of a 6th Dan. Well, so's life...
Good morning to all


__________________
"We are all teachers, and what we teach is what we need to learn, and so we teach it over and over again until we learn it".
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Ubaldo Alcantara
 
#8
Interesting thing though...

I'm guessing the nationalities listed are the places of residence ... Japan ain't mentioned once...
 
#8
My Aikido sensei is the highest ranking in the Netherlands. He has 5 th dan in aikido..
He is 72 years old.. and still teach.
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
#11
yudansha said:
I clearly remember the original official site saying that Seagal had received an 8th dan in Aikido...

Yu, are you sure ?? I didn't read this from the old official site. 7th Dan was writing.

sincerely
suzi
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
#13
yudansha said:
Well, I said that I 'clearly' remember...
But I remember like this, I have seen it before: He earned 8th Dan but was not declare. I am not sure But I read this.

It is true or not, actually we don't know !!


sincerely
 

Wayne

New Member
#14
Thank you for the information..

Thank you for some of the link to the various website, I did not know that Karl Geis was the highest; doing some reading on him...SAS you said that it would take 30 years to reach 10th dan?

If so then i would have a long way to go not if they used meditation with Aikido? Dragon maybe you can enlighten us?



With blessing,

Wayne Fonseca
www.dreamlife.biz
"Do what you can, With what you have, Where you are"
 

Aikilove

Old member aikidoka
#15
Within aikikai there are no 10 dan alive. Steven Seagal is 7th dan (he received it 1995). You don't "earn" a 8th dan. If you promote aikido and are doing a great job at it and are generally recognized and beloved teacher, and have had the honor of a 7th dan for a decade or so then you might be bestowed the honor of 8th dan (all within aikikai of curse nothing else).

/J
 
#17
Dan Ranking

Hello All,

Dan ranking requirements and time in rank varries widely from martial "organization" to another. Traditional lines of Judo tend to promote slowly. For example, my teacher began his Judo training in 1955 in Okinawa--nearly 50 years and still training and teaching (he's 70 years old). He holds a 7th dan in Judo. He started training Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate-do in 1956 and holds a 9th dan. The following are our guidelines for dan promotion:

Shodan: About 4-5 years regular training;
Nidan: 6-7 years regular training;
Sandan (3rd dan): 9-10 years regular training;
Yondan (4th dan): 13-14 years regular training;
Godan (5th dan): 18-19 years regular training;
Rokyudan (6th dan): 24-25 years regular training;

7th, 8th and 9th dans are based on your contribution for the arts and are not "tested" as such. They also require certain age requirements--9th dans should be in their 60's or 70's, etc.

At the same time, there are many other systems and styles that have their own promotion standards. I have heard of a TKD practitioner who, at 8 years old, held a 4th dan. I often see schools that promote quickly mainly as a means to generate revenue through testing fees. It is not unusual to see students who have trained for 1 year sporting a black belt. That may be alright for some, but seems unfair to the student--just my opinion.

As another bit of information, I have lived and trained Daitoryu at the Daibukan in Japan and found they promoted much quicker than our organization--2-3 years for Shodan, etc.

FYI

Best Regards,
Gary Gabelhouse
 
#20
Something I heard about TKD...

... I've heard that beyond 6th dan, it's the experience in TKD that will promote you further ... that's how Chuck Norris got his 8th dan...