Roll on 2008 when there will only be one tire manufacturer for F1! I guess it won't be Michelin after the fiasco. 
Oops Schummi did it again...
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yudansha
TheGreatOne
Hello guys (and you gals too :=)).
"did you see what happened to ... Ralf?"
--> Did you read my post? (Guess not ... guess why you don't see too much of me anymore...)
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Hey, Craig! That 2008 - 1 tyre manufacturer thing - hasn't been finalised yet ... and if you think Michelin's got it tough, don't forget the beginning of the season, and just wait until the intermediate tyres start playing roles. So far, we've mostly seen only the very hot and the very wet conditions (Bridgestones dominate the wet ... but the intermediates are a very tough call). The current rumours are that they want to bring back the slicks. That doesn't make sense to me as the whole point was to minimize speeds, but anyways, those are the rumours.
Michelin is in deep with the U.S. "fiasco" as you put it, but the 7 drop out teams are being sued for un-sporting conduct. The charges will be sorted out in court on June the 29th. The following are the charges proposed by the FIA (the world's international motor sport governing body):
• failed to ensure that they had a supply of suitable tyres for the race
• wrongfully refused to allow their cars to start the race
• wrongfully refused to allow their cars to race, subject to a speed restriction in one corner which was safe for such tyres as they had available
• combined with other teams to make a demonstration damaging to the image of Formula One by pulling into the pits immediately before the start of the race
• failed to notify the stewards of their intention not to race, in breach of Article 131 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations.
Article 131 states: "The starting grid will be published four hours before the race. Any competitor whose car(s) is (are) unable to start for any reason whatsoever (or who has good reason to believe that their car(s) will not be ready to start) must inform the stewards accordingly at the earliest opportunity and, in any event, no later than 45 minutes before the start of the race.”
For more information, visit formula1.com or the FIA website.
I agree to it that such unworthy conduct should be dealt with to the full extent and that the teams that chose not to participate need to answer to all of the charges laid out.
Take it easy,
Yudansha.
(oh, and Craig, that's a cool avatar! That's how I felt when they cancelled hockey.)
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"did you see what happened to ... Ralf?"
--> Did you read my post? (Guess not ... guess why you don't see too much of me anymore...)
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Hey, Craig! That 2008 - 1 tyre manufacturer thing - hasn't been finalised yet ... and if you think Michelin's got it tough, don't forget the beginning of the season, and just wait until the intermediate tyres start playing roles. So far, we've mostly seen only the very hot and the very wet conditions (Bridgestones dominate the wet ... but the intermediates are a very tough call). The current rumours are that they want to bring back the slicks. That doesn't make sense to me as the whole point was to minimize speeds, but anyways, those are the rumours.
Michelin is in deep with the U.S. "fiasco" as you put it, but the 7 drop out teams are being sued for un-sporting conduct. The charges will be sorted out in court on June the 29th. The following are the charges proposed by the FIA (the world's international motor sport governing body):
• failed to ensure that they had a supply of suitable tyres for the race
• wrongfully refused to allow their cars to start the race
• wrongfully refused to allow their cars to race, subject to a speed restriction in one corner which was safe for such tyres as they had available
• combined with other teams to make a demonstration damaging to the image of Formula One by pulling into the pits immediately before the start of the race
• failed to notify the stewards of their intention not to race, in breach of Article 131 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations.
Article 131 states: "The starting grid will be published four hours before the race. Any competitor whose car(s) is (are) unable to start for any reason whatsoever (or who has good reason to believe that their car(s) will not be ready to start) must inform the stewards accordingly at the earliest opportunity and, in any event, no later than 45 minutes before the start of the race.”
For more information, visit formula1.com or the FIA website.
I agree to it that such unworthy conduct should be dealt with to the full extent and that the teams that chose not to participate need to answer to all of the charges laid out.
Take it easy,
Yudansha.
(oh, and Craig, that's a cool avatar! That's how I felt when they cancelled hockey.)
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Littledragon
Above The Law
Where Have You Been??
Why is it that you are not around here anymore Yudansha? I miss you alot..
yudansha said:
Why is it that you are not around here anymore Yudansha? I miss you alot..
yudansha said:
Yes i heard the rumour about the slicks too, but they stopped using them before as they said they were unsafe.
They are also looking at other cost cutting such as outlawing the tyre warmers. Again is it not better spending money on tyre warmers rather than cars crashing due to cold tyres?Here's a list of the FIA's proposed changes for 2008..
I like this F1 website.
yudansha
TheGreatOne
not many cold tyre accidents actually...
... the tyre warmers wouldn't be a great cost-cutting way to insure slower speeds. If it's not the tyre warmers that are in use now, teams will come up with more innovative and perhaps better ways to warm up the tyres or manage this problem. It has been a more important feature to warm up the brakes properly. Carbon fibre doesn't work until it is warmed up to its appropriate temperature (no matter how hard you press the pedal, it's as if there were no brakes at all).
With so many rule changes, it can't be just one thing that needs to be modified on the car. With aerodynamics restrictions, as well as tyre choice, there are considerably more variation in the forces that the car outputs while in motion compared to that a few years ago. The tyres need to be able to withstand the car's set up. The car's set up is influenced by the track where you need to pick optimum aerodynamic conditions and use that data to decide on the appropriate wing set-up. However, the weight needs to be kept the same as there are strict regulations on that (not following such regulations exemplified BAR Honda's situation as they were banned from racing for quite some while and now lie dead last in the constructor's championship with still zero points to their name).
Next year, there will be brand new regulations on the engines that the F1 machines will be allowed to use (from V10 as they are now, to V8). Engineering is never easy. Even a team as composed as Ferrari has showcased such fact.
BMW confirmed Peter Sauber's team takeover! Finally, German manufacturers will be able to directly compete with each other. What will happen to Frank Williams' team now? So many changes lately. More likely than not, the reality of this news is that Jacques will not be around F1 for much longer. I'm just waiting for that June 29th court date.
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"Why is it that you are not around here anymore..."
There were reasons. They still apply.
... the tyre warmers wouldn't be a great cost-cutting way to insure slower speeds. If it's not the tyre warmers that are in use now, teams will come up with more innovative and perhaps better ways to warm up the tyres or manage this problem. It has been a more important feature to warm up the brakes properly. Carbon fibre doesn't work until it is warmed up to its appropriate temperature (no matter how hard you press the pedal, it's as if there were no brakes at all).
With so many rule changes, it can't be just one thing that needs to be modified on the car. With aerodynamics restrictions, as well as tyre choice, there are considerably more variation in the forces that the car outputs while in motion compared to that a few years ago. The tyres need to be able to withstand the car's set up. The car's set up is influenced by the track where you need to pick optimum aerodynamic conditions and use that data to decide on the appropriate wing set-up. However, the weight needs to be kept the same as there are strict regulations on that (not following such regulations exemplified BAR Honda's situation as they were banned from racing for quite some while and now lie dead last in the constructor's championship with still zero points to their name).
Next year, there will be brand new regulations on the engines that the F1 machines will be allowed to use (from V10 as they are now, to V8). Engineering is never easy. Even a team as composed as Ferrari has showcased such fact.
BMW confirmed Peter Sauber's team takeover! Finally, German manufacturers will be able to directly compete with each other. What will happen to Frank Williams' team now? So many changes lately. More likely than not, the reality of this news is that Jacques will not be around F1 for much longer. I'm just waiting for that June 29th court date.
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"Why is it that you are not around here anymore..."
There were reasons. They still apply.
Littledragon
Above The Law
yudansha said:
Could those reasons be adressed so we could help, because we all really want to see you back here again. You are like family here on this site.
ORANGATUANG
Wildfire
No i didnt notice that you had said that Yudansha ..but i sure know now ok?..and i agree with Craig the sooner 2008 comes the better hopefully there will be no more bitching about tyres then...
yudansha
TheGreatOne
Littledragon, what you've requested is being addressed at the moment.
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|_-> Heather, I've devoted about a quarter of that post to that information you've "missed."
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2008 will not be a good year for F1. Mark my words, and before you say anything more, just read into the proposed changes that are due to be enforced starting that year. It will not be good for racing at all! And again it seems you've "missed" another thing I've mentioned - that being the unconfirmed and unofficial decision about keeping ONE tyre manufacturer in F1. That has not been finalized, and has not been set out to be.
Yudansha.
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|_-> Heather, I've devoted about a quarter of that post to that information you've "missed."
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2008 will not be a good year for F1. Mark my words, and before you say anything more, just read into the proposed changes that are due to be enforced starting that year. It will not be good for racing at all! And again it seems you've "missed" another thing I've mentioned - that being the unconfirmed and unofficial decision about keeping ONE tyre manufacturer in F1. That has not been finalized, and has not been set out to be.
Yudansha.
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Littledragon
Above The Law
Company to give back money for Grand Prix fiasco.
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Tire manufacturer Michelin offered Tuesday to refund money to those who bought tickets for the U.S. Grand Prix, which was boycotted by seven Formula One teams after the company decided its tires were unsafe at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Michelin also said it would buy 20,000 tickets for the 2006 race to be given to those who attended the June 19 race during which only six of the typical 20 drivers participated.
"Michelin deeply regrets that the public was deprived of an exciting race and therefore wishes to be the first, among the different groups involved in the Indianapolis race, to make a strong gesture towards the spectators," the company said.
Indianapolis Motor Speedway spokesman Ron Green said the track was not notified about the refund until 30 minutes before Michelin issued its statement.
"We're very encouraged by what they released today," Green said. "Finally, they're acknowledging that they will provide for the fans what the fans deserve. That's all we'd hoped for."
Green said the speedway expects to be asked to administer the refunds. He told fans to "sit tight" and await more information. Green said all fans who purchased tickets would be eligible for the refund.
Reserved seat tickets for this month's race ranged from $75 to $150. The speedway does not release attendance figures for any of its races, but media reports estimated the U.S. Grand Prix crowd at 100,000.
Michelin's refund offer for this year's race could cost the company about $10 million if 100,000 ticket holders seek refunds at an average of $100 each. A similar average ticket price could cost the company $2 million for the 2006 race tickets it offered to buy.
Two Michelin tires failed during practice sessions two days before the race -- one causing a wreck that prevented Ralf Schumacher from competing.
Nine of the 10 teams, excluding Ferrari, proposed to run the race if a series of turns was installed to slow cars on a high-speed part of the course. Ferrari and FIA, the sport's ruling body, rejected the possible compromise, with FIA president Max Mosley saying he would not change the rules because some teams brought the wrong equipment.
Michelin said it believed the FIA's decision was "totally incomprehensible and reflects a lack of respect for the spectators."
"The reality is that together, Michelin and its partners have done everything possible to assure that the race could take place in total safety," the company said. "We are extremely disappointed that the proposals made with all our teams were not accepted. These proposals, including a chicane, were technically viable and totally met all safety requirements."
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Tire manufacturer Michelin offered Tuesday to refund money to those who bought tickets for the U.S. Grand Prix, which was boycotted by seven Formula One teams after the company decided its tires were unsafe at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Michelin also said it would buy 20,000 tickets for the 2006 race to be given to those who attended the June 19 race during which only six of the typical 20 drivers participated.
"Michelin deeply regrets that the public was deprived of an exciting race and therefore wishes to be the first, among the different groups involved in the Indianapolis race, to make a strong gesture towards the spectators," the company said.
Indianapolis Motor Speedway spokesman Ron Green said the track was not notified about the refund until 30 minutes before Michelin issued its statement.
"We're very encouraged by what they released today," Green said. "Finally, they're acknowledging that they will provide for the fans what the fans deserve. That's all we'd hoped for."
Green said the speedway expects to be asked to administer the refunds. He told fans to "sit tight" and await more information. Green said all fans who purchased tickets would be eligible for the refund.
Reserved seat tickets for this month's race ranged from $75 to $150. The speedway does not release attendance figures for any of its races, but media reports estimated the U.S. Grand Prix crowd at 100,000.
Michelin's refund offer for this year's race could cost the company about $10 million if 100,000 ticket holders seek refunds at an average of $100 each. A similar average ticket price could cost the company $2 million for the 2006 race tickets it offered to buy.
Two Michelin tires failed during practice sessions two days before the race -- one causing a wreck that prevented Ralf Schumacher from competing.
Nine of the 10 teams, excluding Ferrari, proposed to run the race if a series of turns was installed to slow cars on a high-speed part of the course. Ferrari and FIA, the sport's ruling body, rejected the possible compromise, with FIA president Max Mosley saying he would not change the rules because some teams brought the wrong equipment.
Michelin said it believed the FIA's decision was "totally incomprehensible and reflects a lack of respect for the spectators."
"The reality is that together, Michelin and its partners have done everything possible to assure that the race could take place in total safety," the company said. "We are extremely disappointed that the proposals made with all our teams were not accepted. These proposals, including a chicane, were technically viable and totally met all safety requirements."
yudansha
TheGreatOne
Michelin offered to repay all of the U.S. Grand Prix visitors ...
... and offered them free tickets for next year's race - the day before FIA was to have the meeting with the 7 charged teams to decide on their verdict.
The meeting was today (and the teams are to appeal the outcome):
(The following is from formula1.com.)
Teams found guilty on two charges, but cleared of bringing sport into disrepute
The seven Michelin teams must wait until September to discover their punishment after they were found guilty on Wednesday of two charges relating to their failure to race in the US Grand Prix.
Following a meeting of the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council attended by the teams in Paris, President Max Mosley revealed that they were deemed guilty of not being in possession of suitable tyres for the event, but with strong mitigating circumstances, and of wrongfully refusing to allow their cars to start the race.
The teams were cleared of three other charges of refusing to race subject to a speed limit, of combining to make a demonstration damaging to the image of the sport by stopping after the parade lap and of not informing the race stewards of their plans to withdraw.
However, the Council decided to delay a decision on what punishment the teams will receive until a further extraordinary meeting on September 14. Before then Mosley said they would be considering the steps taken by Michelin and/or the seven teams to compensate fans who attended the US race and to ensure nothing similar happens again.
Speaking in a press conference following the Council meeting, Mosley hinted that if the situation has been satisfactorily resolved by then, penalties were likely to be financial, rather than extending to points deductions or race bans. He stressed that the FIA’s primary concern was the American fans and the image of Formula One racing in the United States.
Mosley added that he held Michelin responsible for the affair, but pointed out that the FIA is powerless to punish the tyre company directly, as they are a supplier and not a competitor, hence their teams were held accountable.
The teams concerned are BAR, McLaren, Sauber, Williams, Toyota, Red Bull and Renault. They refused to race at Indianapolis after Michelin said they could not guarantee the safety of their tyres over a Grand Prix distance through the banked turn 13. Numerous options for slowing the cars were proposed by Michelin, the FIA and the teams, but none could be agreed.
Michelin subsequently apologised for failing to bring suitable tyres to the event and admitted they had simply miscalculated the demands created by the banking with cars in 2005 configuration. They have since offered to refund the tickets of the Indianapolis fans, but have stood by their claims that inflexibility on the part of the FIA prevented the race going ahead.
... and offered them free tickets for next year's race - the day before FIA was to have the meeting with the 7 charged teams to decide on their verdict.
The meeting was today (and the teams are to appeal the outcome):
(The following is from formula1.com.)
Teams found guilty on two charges, but cleared of bringing sport into disrepute
The seven Michelin teams must wait until September to discover their punishment after they were found guilty on Wednesday of two charges relating to their failure to race in the US Grand Prix.
Following a meeting of the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council attended by the teams in Paris, President Max Mosley revealed that they were deemed guilty of not being in possession of suitable tyres for the event, but with strong mitigating circumstances, and of wrongfully refusing to allow their cars to start the race.
The teams were cleared of three other charges of refusing to race subject to a speed limit, of combining to make a demonstration damaging to the image of the sport by stopping after the parade lap and of not informing the race stewards of their plans to withdraw.
However, the Council decided to delay a decision on what punishment the teams will receive until a further extraordinary meeting on September 14. Before then Mosley said they would be considering the steps taken by Michelin and/or the seven teams to compensate fans who attended the US race and to ensure nothing similar happens again.
Speaking in a press conference following the Council meeting, Mosley hinted that if the situation has been satisfactorily resolved by then, penalties were likely to be financial, rather than extending to points deductions or race bans. He stressed that the FIA’s primary concern was the American fans and the image of Formula One racing in the United States.
Mosley added that he held Michelin responsible for the affair, but pointed out that the FIA is powerless to punish the tyre company directly, as they are a supplier and not a competitor, hence their teams were held accountable.
The teams concerned are BAR, McLaren, Sauber, Williams, Toyota, Red Bull and Renault. They refused to race at Indianapolis after Michelin said they could not guarantee the safety of their tyres over a Grand Prix distance through the banked turn 13. Numerous options for slowing the cars were proposed by Michelin, the FIA and the teams, but none could be agreed.
Michelin subsequently apologised for failing to bring suitable tyres to the event and admitted they had simply miscalculated the demands created by the banking with cars in 2005 configuration. They have since offered to refund the tickets of the Indianapolis fans, but have stood by their claims that inflexibility on the part of the FIA prevented the race going ahead.
yudansha
TheGreatOne
French Grand Prix this weekend!
Weekend weather - hot, sunny race ahead
The French Grand Prix at Nevers Magny-Cours, the 10th round of the 2005 FIA Formula One World Championship.
The weather has been unsettled here so far this week, with showers on Tuesday and Wednesday and more predicted for the region today when the ambient temperature should reach 22 degrees Celsius.
The better news is that though there is a 40 percent chance of showers tomorrow, Saturday will be partly cloudy with a high of 27 degrees, and raceday is scheduled to be sunny and hot with a high of 33 degrees.
The 4.411 km circuit remains largely unchanged since 2004, when Fernando Alonso secured pole position for Renault with a time of 1m 13.698s before Michael Schumacher took his customary win for Ferrari.
The race will run over 70 laps (308.586 km) and will start at 1400 hours local time, which is two hours ahead of the GMT.
It's a great event to look forward to! (a few reasons can usually be found in the pit lane as seen below)
Weekend weather - hot, sunny race ahead
The French Grand Prix at Nevers Magny-Cours, the 10th round of the 2005 FIA Formula One World Championship.
The weather has been unsettled here so far this week, with showers on Tuesday and Wednesday and more predicted for the region today when the ambient temperature should reach 22 degrees Celsius.
The better news is that though there is a 40 percent chance of showers tomorrow, Saturday will be partly cloudy with a high of 27 degrees, and raceday is scheduled to be sunny and hot with a high of 33 degrees.
The 4.411 km circuit remains largely unchanged since 2004, when Fernando Alonso secured pole position for Renault with a time of 1m 13.698s before Michael Schumacher took his customary win for Ferrari.
The race will run over 70 laps (308.586 km) and will start at 1400 hours local time, which is two hours ahead of the GMT.
It's a great event to look forward to! (a few reasons can usually be found in the pit lane as seen below
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Cool! Thanks for the notice, Yudansha. I might finally be able to watch this one. I'm usually working Sunday mornings, but will be off this Sunday. It is Sunday, right?yudansha said:Weekend weather - hot, sunny race ahead
The French Grand Prix at Nevers Magny-Cours, the 10th round of the 2005 FIA Formula One World Championship.
The weather has been unsettled here so far this week, with showers on Tuesday and Wednesday and more predicted for the region today when the ambient temperature should reach 22 degrees Celsius.
The better news is that though there is a 40 percent chance of showers tomorrow, Saturday will be partly cloudy with a high of 27 degrees, and raceday is scheduled to be sunny and hot with a high of 33 degrees.
The 4.411 km circuit remains largely unchanged since 2004, when Fernando Alonso secured pole position for Renault with a time of 1m 13.698s before Michael Schumacher took his customary win for Ferrari.
The race will run over 70 laps (308.586 km) and will start at 1400 hours local time, which is two hours ahead of the GMT.
It's a great event to look forward to! (a few reasons can usually be found in the pit lane as seen below
I heard the weather had broken a little in France, but 33 degrees C. (91.5 F.) still sounds pretty hot to me!
What may we expect from those tires in the heat, Yudansha?
And what may we expect from those pit babes--or whatever you guys call them?
Lonewolf--Wave to us from the crowds! I'll be looking for you!
yudansha
TheGreatOne
we call them - the welcoming committee
Tires - the usual. Michelin will probably have an advantage in these slightly warmer temperatures (it was the layout of the circuit at Indianapolis that turned the tables on them). It is a typical European circuit. A very good race should be ahead.
And yes, the race is Sunday - at 8.00am Eastern Time. (Quali is at 7.00am on Saturday.) First practice session is on Friday at 5.00am EST. And you can rely on Speed Tv to bring you all of the LIVE coverage.
Tires - the usual. Michelin will probably have an advantage in these slightly warmer temperatures (it was the layout of the circuit at Indianapolis that turned the tables on them). It is a typical European circuit. A very good race should be ahead.
And yes, the race is Sunday - at 8.00am Eastern Time. (Quali is at 7.00am on Saturday.) First practice session is on Friday at 5.00am EST. And you can rely on Speed Tv to bring you all of the LIVE coverage.
yudansha
TheGreatOne
all in the name of safety ... when was racing defined that way??
Revised 2008 Tyre Regulations
Revised tyre regulations would help prevent a repeat of Indianapolis nightmare
In what would seem to be a move clearly intended to prevent the fiasco of the American Grand Prix ever occurring again, the FIA's proposed changes to the technical regulations for the 2008 season make clear that - in similar circumstances - a tyre manufacturer would be able to provide an "emergency" specification of rubber if that was required to allow the race to proceed.
The current Formula One Technical Regulations only allow teams to supply two specifications of dry weather tyres for a race, one of which is meant to be of an ultra-safe specification. In Indianapolis this year the Michelin-shod teams refused to race, citing the French company's warning that it could not guarantee the safety of its tyres through the high loadings of the banked Turn 13 of the Indianapolis course. The matter has already been investigated by the FIA, with any sanctions to be imposed on the teams set to be announced after the Italian Grand Prix.
The FIA's proposals include limiting the supply of tyres to Formula One to those made by a single manufacturer - something the organisation argues would lead to an increased emphasis on safety over performance. It is also proposed that slick tyres should replace the current grooved dry-weather tyres.
The proposed "emergency" clause in the regulations states that:
"If, in the opinion of the appointed tyre supplier and FIA technical delegate, the nominated tyre specification proves to be technically unsuitable, the stewards may authorise the use of additional tyres to a different specification."
To make it clear that this would only be permitted in the most extreme circumstances another clause states that except in the case of "force majeure" (circumstances outside the control of the race organisers or teams) "all tyres intended for use at an Event must be presented to the FIA technical delegate for allocation prior to the end of initial scrutineering."
Revised 2008 Tyre Regulations
Revised tyre regulations would help prevent a repeat of Indianapolis nightmare
In what would seem to be a move clearly intended to prevent the fiasco of the American Grand Prix ever occurring again, the FIA's proposed changes to the technical regulations for the 2008 season make clear that - in similar circumstances - a tyre manufacturer would be able to provide an "emergency" specification of rubber if that was required to allow the race to proceed.
The current Formula One Technical Regulations only allow teams to supply two specifications of dry weather tyres for a race, one of which is meant to be of an ultra-safe specification. In Indianapolis this year the Michelin-shod teams refused to race, citing the French company's warning that it could not guarantee the safety of its tyres through the high loadings of the banked Turn 13 of the Indianapolis course. The matter has already been investigated by the FIA, with any sanctions to be imposed on the teams set to be announced after the Italian Grand Prix.
The FIA's proposals include limiting the supply of tyres to Formula One to those made by a single manufacturer - something the organisation argues would lead to an increased emphasis on safety over performance. It is also proposed that slick tyres should replace the current grooved dry-weather tyres.
The proposed "emergency" clause in the regulations states that:
"If, in the opinion of the appointed tyre supplier and FIA technical delegate, the nominated tyre specification proves to be technically unsuitable, the stewards may authorise the use of additional tyres to a different specification."
To make it clear that this would only be permitted in the most extreme circumstances another clause states that except in the case of "force majeure" (circumstances outside the control of the race organisers or teams) "all tyres intended for use at an Event must be presented to the FIA technical delegate for allocation prior to the end of initial scrutineering."
yudansha
TheGreatOne
A minute of silence at Silverstone prior to the GP race.
Regardless of the current events, many brave celebrities showed up to liven the mood and spirit of the fans and the citizens.
Think Rowan Atkinson and cars and you would be forgiven for picturing Mr Bean and his teddy bear in a yellow Mini complete with padlock, so what brought the famous comedian to Silverstone? “Oh, I have upgraded myself to a more sportive car understanding. So I guessed that attending a Formula One race would be a perfect start for me into a world beyond 50 horsepower. The truth is that I love to watch people forcing cars around courses at a breathtaking speed. I am a big fan of Formula One."
(Juan Pablo Montoya of West McLaren Mercedes wins the race - for the first time this season - and his teammate, Kimi Raikonnen, who's in second for the championship title came from 13th to finish third on the podium - just plain amazing - Mercedes is the new pace while Ferrari keeps updating and evolving while the season just passes under their noses ... they surely are learning from their mistake of developing their new car late and bringing it much too late into the season ... Still, there's hope as Schummi and Ferrari lie third in driver's and constructor's championship respectively - behind Fernando Alonso, Renault and Kimi Raikonnen, Mercedes who currently sit first and second.)
Regardless of the current events, many brave celebrities showed up to liven the mood and spirit of the fans and the citizens.
Think Rowan Atkinson and cars and you would be forgiven for picturing Mr Bean and his teddy bear in a yellow Mini complete with padlock, so what brought the famous comedian to Silverstone? “Oh, I have upgraded myself to a more sportive car understanding. So I guessed that attending a Formula One race would be a perfect start for me into a world beyond 50 horsepower. The truth is that I love to watch people forcing cars around courses at a breathtaking speed. I am a big fan of Formula One."
(Juan Pablo Montoya of West McLaren Mercedes wins the race - for the first time this season - and his teammate, Kimi Raikonnen, who's in second for the championship title came from 13th to finish third on the podium - just plain amazing - Mercedes is the new pace while Ferrari keeps updating and evolving while the season just passes under their noses ... they surely are learning from their mistake of developing their new car late and bringing it much too late into the season ... Still, there's hope as Schummi and Ferrari lie third in driver's and constructor's championship respectively - behind Fernando Alonso, Renault and Kimi Raikonnen, Mercedes who currently sit first and second.)
Mr. Bean
I just came across this pic, Yudansha, and was going to place it here. I'm not sure why it was printed like this, or if it was a significant moment--I just put it here because I thought of you when I saw it.
British Grand Prix : McLaren-Mercedes Colombian driver Juan Pablo Montoya steers his car ahead of Renault Spanish driver Fernando Alonso on the Silverstone racetrack during the British Grand Prix in Silverstone, Great Britain.
I just came across this pic, Yudansha, and was going to place it here. I'm not sure why it was printed like this, or if it was a significant moment--I just put it here because I thought of you when I saw it.
British Grand Prix : McLaren-Mercedes Colombian driver Juan Pablo Montoya steers his car ahead of Renault Spanish driver Fernando Alonso on the Silverstone racetrack during the British Grand Prix in Silverstone, Great Britain.
yudansha
TheGreatOne
that is some good photography
My guess - that's the Finish line and it just shows that Montoya clearly won, but it was not an easy race for him, and that he deserved that hard fought win - seeing as Alonso constantly stayed right on his tail.
The race was quite interesting, but at the same time disappointing. I guess you can figure why.
My guess - that's the Finish line and it just shows that Montoya clearly won, but it was not an easy race for him, and that he deserved that hard fought win - seeing as Alonso constantly stayed right on his tail.
The race was quite interesting, but at the same time disappointing. I guess you can figure why.
I can figure why.yudansha said:My guess - that's the Finish line and it just shows that Montoya clearly won, but it was not an easy race for him, and that he deserved that hard fought win - seeing as Alonso constantly stayed right on his tail.
The race was quite interesting, but at the same time disappointing. I guess you can figure why.
But keep in mind these words of wisdom from The Great One: "Still, there's hope..."