Seagals Arrogance, and all around bad attitude towards others.

chigung

New Member
I am as big of a Steven Seagal fan as anyone else, but I cant simply overlook the mans astonishing Arrogance. Did anyone see the "True Hollywood Stories" on Seagal? Forget the abundant reviews about his "comatose" acting style, or the fact that he shows absolutely no emotion whatsoever.

The man is a jerk to almost everyone he comes in contact with, including his own family, and especially his fans. Lets also not forget that he spent like 50% of his time on Jay Leno plugging his products for sale on his web site. Also, isn't it curious that the only part of that site that is functioning properly is the online store.

I enjoy Steven Seagal because of the honesty he brings to fighting, but I have to say that I don't respect him as a man.

Any honest thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
 

kokoro

Protector
Welcome chigung.

I have to disagree entirely. I saw "T.H.S" and thought most of it was just mud slinging. Why everyone expects him to be perfect is beyond me, as nobody is. I understand there is most likely some truth to certain aspects of his life, but I'll leave those thoughts to myself, as speculation is useless.

I'm sure there are people I've come into contact with that think I'm a right prick too, but I know there are others that don't, and they wouldn't talk to anyone about me which is why they are friends.

I will say the ones I may have been a prick to, I don't care what they think anyway, I treat people how they treat me as some people don't like looking into a mirror, even if they don't know they are, hopefully they see a reflection.

I don't know they guy personally, and I don't believe in making judgements against people I have never been in contact with, unless of course they have committed a heinous crime etc, and to date I don't think S.S has.
If his fans get all misty eyed because they think he doesn't care or doesn't answer questions or whatever, then perhaps they need some help in the physcology dept, and should really question their own integrity & ethics/values.
I can't say I respect him as man, again because I don't know him, I just don't automatically give people respect because of their status or fame or whatever.

That is my honest opinion.

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TDWoj

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I haven't seen the T.H.S. with SS in it (serves me right for never getting a TV Guide), but it strikes me, from what I have read elsewhere, that he's been on the defensive in Hollywood since Above the Law was made. That can make someone pretty cranky, after 15+ years of being on the receiving end of all that s**t.

He strikes me as someone who is really uncomfortable with certain aspects of fame, and (warning: speculation coming up) what may come across as arrogance may actually be his own discomfort expressed as arrogance because he hasn't figured out any better way to deal with it. And, as with any person in that position, he's probably surrounded by sychophants who wouldn't *dare* tell him he's misbehaving because they want to keep their jobs (/end speculation).

How he deals with his family is his business. We're on the outside; we don't know what went on inside.

Plugging his products? Hey, he's got six kids to support.

When I was browsing through the gallery, I came across a magazine clipping whose caption said that the accompanying photograph was taken at his 50th birthday party. He had invited people he knew in Hollywood, presumably people he had worked with, people who likely had made money off him from being in his films - and no one came.

That had to hurt.

I actually feel sorry for the guy - his personal life, his professional life, his spiritual life - none of it seems to be giving him any joy (this is the view from outside, I hasten to add, since all I have to go on is a paucity of interviews and a plethora of photographs), except from time to time when that famous smile suddenly erupts. I'm certainly not qualified to sit in judgement of his moral character. I can wonder, "what was he thinking?" when he took up with the family nanny, a girl barely out of her teens and 24 years younger than he was (he's not the only one to do that - Robin Williams did the same thing, and he's not being slagged, well, any more). But I wasn't there - and he isn't talking (unless he said something on T.H.S.). And what business is it of mine anyway, if in the end *he's* found some happiness in one corner of his life?

I can speculate about his character all I want - I study character and observe behaviour, it's part of what I do as a writer, and I can draw this or that conclusion from the outside, from what I see, but would it be accurate? For example, I notice that he did not have a weight problem before taking up with Arissa, but since becoming involved with her he's ballooned. As I writer, I can speculate as to why that is - but it'll be a fiction, as I suspect it is with a lot of other people's conclusions, regarding his character, or behaviour, and what we end up seeing printed in the paper as gospel truth - from the point of view of the writer, on the outside, and not Steven himself.

The trouble is, we have a certain expectation of how we think he - and people in his position - should behave, and when he doesn't live up to that expectation, it's somehow *his* fault, forgetting, of course, he had *no* idea we were expecting something else other than what he gave us.

It's easy to sit on the outside and make judgements from the safety of our own lives. Not so easy to be *in* the life and have to live it under a microscope, where every bad act is exaggerated to prove the theory and good acts ignored and hidden from view.

Whew.
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
I don't know if it's arrogance we are seeing, but given his position I am sure he has a little feeling of importance...I like his acting personally I don't think he is comatose, I think he's actually full of emotion and not sure how to express them, I can tell you that scrutiny is very difficult...Some people (not saying him) are self concious at the slightest thing...Can you imagine how he feels? It must be terribly uncomfortable to have your every move followed...There are emotions there, it just takes a little understanding to recognize them...

I think you are wrong about him being a jerk to almost everyone he comes in contact with, I have heard from interviews tht he is a very nice and quiet man...I have also heard that he is extremely close to his mother, and seems to me that he shows a lot of respect to others, all depending on how they treat him first...Regarding his family, I think a lot of things with the kids have to to with the mothers, if they are being difficult it causes everyones relationship to suffer, he may have some issues with the kids, but that is really personal stuff, none of our business at all...I dunno that he treats his fans badly, I just don't know...
Jay Leno asked him about the products in the first place...Also what about the Thank-You message he gave to the fans on hs site, I thought that was pretty nice of him....And what's wrong with the store being functional, it is against the law for him to want to keep making money?

I think Steven Seagal is a very quiet man, and quite missunderstood. Safe to say that some people just rub him the wrong way, he's only human, probably VERY sensitive, and so lets just keep all that in mind...I don't judge him at all, also don't envy some of the things he has been through either, so I will and will make my own will make my own determinations if I ever get the chance...I think it's important that we just try to be understanding...:) He is a special man, we all know it...
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Oh and by the way, some people might think that his massive height alone, is very intimidating too...Maybe just the fact that he is such a big man, and the kind of on screen roles he does gives him that "arrogant" air....Just something to consider....
 

Kwan

Be your self...
chigung: "The man is a jerk to almost everyone he comes in contact with, including his own family, and especially his fans."

Have you met him in person? :rolleyes:
 

katrina102457

New Member
I cannot express myself so eloquently as some can. I have
never met Steven Seagal, but I do not see arrogance.
As for people that think he shows no expression, you are
not looking deep enough, as I look at him I see many different
emotions. Those emotions are the reason he is my favorite
actor....In his films he doesn't have to say a word, I sense
what the character he is playing is feeling by just looking at his
face. Too bad some cannot.....

katrina:(
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Yes, and we have no idea how he treats his family or anyone for that matter unless we were right there at the time, or unless we have met him in person, so chigung how can you sit there and say he is a jerk to anyone?
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
He never gets a good press. If he fell in a rose bed guess what he'd come out smelling of? (Heh).;)
 

kickingbird

candle lighter
Mr. Seagal is not "hollywood" centered ... that is why the press slams him. As at any gossip table, it seems the quiet ones receive the most mud slung at them. Those with waggling tongues have no intelligence nor compassion. They live for "the slam" ... personally I have no use for tabloided, bubble-brained gossips.
From what I've seen of Mr. Seagal in his films, and personal appearances, from news of his spiritual quest, and his concern for the plight of the Tibetan people, he is a caring, compassionate human being. We all have "faults"; it should not be our life goal to smash someone into the ground simply because someone isn't "perfect" (whatever that would be).
If one doesn't "like" what one perceives in another human being, sometimes it is those very same qualities that we loath within ourselves ... just a humble life lesson ... just a chance to recognize within ourselves and replace those loathesome qualities with better qualities.
In Oneness and Peace
 

Lotussan

I Belong To Steven
Kickingbird you are so right, I see the same thing when I look at him... I think he's a wonderful man, and I see the things the tabloids say are so far fetched...Hollywood just doesn't understand this man, and they don't care, I guess...All I know I care deeply, and I think he's great...Caring, compassionate, funny, and beautifully spiritual....Sigh, I am in love with it all....:)
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
Originally posted by Lotussan
I don't know if it's arrogance we are seeing, but given his position I am sure he has a little feeling of importance...I like his acting personally I don't think he is comatose, I think he's actually full of emotion and not sure how to express them, I can tell you that scrutiny is very difficult...Some people (not saying him) are self concious at the slightest thing...Can you imagine how he feels? It must be terribly uncomfortable to have your every move followed...There are emotions there, it just takes a little understanding to recognize them...

I think you are wrong about him being a jerk to almost everyone he comes in contact with, I have heard from interviews tht he is a very nice and quiet man...I have also heard that he is extremely close to his mother, and seems to me that he shows a lot of respect to others, all depending on how they treat him first...Regarding his family, I think a lot of things with the kids have to to with the mothers, if they are being difficult it causes everyones relationship to suffer, he may have some issues with the kids, but that is really personal stuff, none of our business at all...I dunno that he treats his fans badly, I just don't know...
Jay Leno asked him about the products in the first place...Also what about the Thank-You message he gave to the fans on hs site, I thought that was pretty nice of him....And what's wrong with the store being functional, it is against the law for him to want to keep making money?

I think Steven Seagal is a very quiet man, and quite missunderstood. Safe to say that some people just rub him the wrong way, he's only human, probably VERY sensitive, and so lets just keep all that in mind...I don't judge him at all, also don't envy some of the things he has been through either, so I will and will make my own will make my own determinations if I ever get the chance...I think it's important that we just try to be understanding...:) He is a special man, we all know it...


You said well !! I agree with you Lotus !!
He is wonderful for me !!

suzi
 

Mama San

Administrator
Suzi, my little friend!!!!
It's so great to see you posting again!!
You have been missed!!
Love ya' sooooooooooooooooo much!!!
God bless,
Mama san
 

mariii

New Member
Yep, you'rew right!!!!!! Steven is great! Steven is perfect!
How dare you to put him down?!?! And in a personal level!?
 
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