Submerged - review

[hofmae]

"For me it was a "good" movie. Although its not a typicall Steven Seagal movie like i said. I love the older movies much more than this one... But its a Seagal Movie that makes me happy. And i found that this movie is not soo bad, good Actionscenes, some suspense. Its really ok i think!"

I love Seagal movies as well- when he's the one doing the action. The action sceens were not that great and besides Seagal wasn't in many at all. And how could you bare listening to someone voice over Seagal for the majority of the movie? I know he's getting older, christ we all are, but i said it once, i'll repeat it: someone like Seagal with a martial arts background and one time huge movie star- should have the motivation + $$$$$$$ to stay in better shape!

Yes i agree with that!! I hope every time when a new one comes out, there will be some bonebreaking Steven Action, but it isn't... But in Submerged i liked that the movie has always some speed... Not 80 Minutes talking and then 2 minutes action..

 

[Connie]

I have got my submerged today.......But it is not Stevens Submerged.....

Well i am sad and i am crying right now....
It goes about a plane....actor is, Fred Williamson!!!! never hear about the man....

So now i am waiting for the real Submerged with Steven Seagal in it...

Love Connie

 

[Serena]

I have got my submerged today.......But it is not Stevens Submerged.....

Well i am sad and i am crying right now....
It goes about a plane....actor is, Fred Williamson!!!! never hear about the man....

So now i am waiting for the real Submerged with Steven Seagal in it...

Love Connie

I'm sorry to hear that, Connie! I do hope you can make an exchange, or get your money back on that one. Good luck!

 

[suziwong]

ohh I am so sorry for you Connie..

you can make an exchange as Serena said... Really good luck !!!

suzi

 

[hofmae]

Yes this is submerged from year 2000... But its an ok b-movie

 

[Amos Stevens]

I don't know how you ordered your movie Connie..but usually you can return it if you haven't opened the seal wrap yet

 

[Nick]

"But its an ok b-movie"

Are you being sarcastic? You have to explain to me what "ok" means through. All the degrees of the "ok". Because that movie does not look impressive at all. Coolie in the lead role? Turbulence is probably the greatest Air Plane Thriller. Executive Decision and Passenger 57 were quite good. Upcoming Flight Plan with Jodie Foster and Wes Craven's Red Eye look quite impressive.

 

[hofmae]

"But its an ok b-movie"

Are you being sarcastic? You have to explain to me what "ok" means through. All the degrees of the "ok". Because that movie does not look impressive at all. Coolie in the lead role? Turbulence is probably the greatest Air Plane Thriller. Executive Decision and Passenger 57 were quite good. Upcoming Flight Plan with Jodie Foster and Wes Craven's Red Eye look quite impressive.

Yes its not that good... But i saw a lot b-movies that were not as good as this one... I mean there is a lot crap out there

...by the way: I saw today Solider Boyz with Michael Dudikoff (i know its an old movie, but only since 2 weeks out uncut in Switzerland on DVD)... I really enjoyed this movie...!!

 

[Connie]

Well it say that it was a new realese.... i tought it was the Submerged of Steven Seagal..
Well it was a b-movie, because a fall asleep while waching....

But i`ll keep it in my collection...so it remind me too look better the next time...

Love Connie

 

[Prisoner 1137]

Coolio LOL

I guess that's his back up job.

 

[hofmae]

Coolio LOL

I guess that's his back up job.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

[Hallarian]

Compare which films we each like/ dislike.

I’m convinced that each of us have extremely different tastes in films. It Amazes me how we vary in which of Steven’s films we like and dislike. I’ve seen to many beaten people in ER, have been beaten pretty bad, and attempted to stop beatings I skip the more severely violent of Steven’s films that really appeal to others. There’s nothing wrong with being different.

Let’s compare notes of likes and dislikes. I don’t think it’s fine to like films I intensely dislike like Exit Wounds (the book was good but the film had nothing to do with it).

FILM My reaction!
Above the Law Fair
Hard to Kill Good
Marked for Death Good
Out for justice Awful
Under Siege Excellent
On Deadly Ground Very Good except so wrong about Alaska. (I like films about the environment)
Under Siege Two Good
Executive Decision Pretty Good
Glimmerman Fair
Fire Down Below Excellent
The Patriot Very Good but needed technical advisor on Biology
Exit Wounds Awful
Ticker Very Good
Half Past Dead Excellent
Foreigner Awful
Out for a Kill Awful
Clementine Didn’t see it.
Out of reach Good
Belly of the Beast Good
Into the Sun Excellent
Submerged Good but lot’s wrong with it.

 

[Amos Stevens]

Well said Hallarian...everybody sees a movie in their own way

 

[hofmae]

I’m convinced that each of us have extremely different tastes in films. It Amazes me how we vary in which of Steven’s films we like and dislike. I’ve seen to many beaten people in ER, have been beaten pretty bad, and attempted to stop beatings I skip the more severely violent of Steven’s films that really appeal to others. There’s nothing wrong with being different.

Let’s compare notes of likes and dislikes. I don’t think it’s fine to like films I intensely dislike like Exit Wounds (the book was good but the film had nothing to do with it).

FILM My reaction!
Above the Law Fair
Hard to Kill Good
Marked for Death Good
Out for justice Awful
Under Siege Excellent
On Deadly Ground Very Good except so wrong about Alaska. (I like films about the environment)
Under Siege Two Good
Executive Decision Pretty Good
Glimmerman Fair
Fire Down Below Excellent
The Patriot Very Good but needed technical advisor on Biology
Exit Wounds Awful
Ticker Very Good
Half Past Dead Excellent
Foreigner Awful
Out for a Kill Awful
Clementine Didn’t see it.
Out of reach Good
Belly of the Beast Good
Into the Sun Excellent
Submerged Good but lot’s wrong with it.

Very interesting statements

 

[Nick]

Michael Dudikoff only has two excellent films which were American Ninja. I grew up on those films, Chuck Norris, Jean Claude Van Damme, and Steven Seagal’s films.

"Let’s compare notes of likes and dislikes"

Lets not because after all this is a Submerged Review Thread as I was kindly reminded and why should we waste our time? I already made a list and I am sure we all have at one point or another. Posting it side by side isn’t going to change anything. Just a tedious practice in my opinion.

 

[BillyRayLancing]

I saw this movie - i actually bought a region 1 DVD player while in the US and then bought Submerged so i could watch it in my hotel room. I thought it was terrible - terrible story, acting, action and dubbing. Sadly another poor effort. Vinnie Jones was good though!

 

[Littledragon]

I saw this movie - i actually bought a region 1 DVD player while in the US and then bought Submerged so i could watch it in my hotel room. I thought it was terrible - terrible story, acting, action and dubbing. Sadly another poor effort. Vinnie Jones was good though!

I totally agree with you!!

People who like this movie and think this movie is good should not be Seagal fans.

 

[hofmae]

I totally agree with you!!

People who like this movie and think this movie is good should not be Seagal fans.

What the **** is that post??? Can i only like movies when Steven Seagal is fighting 90 minutes. Do you watch only movies with Steven Seagal?

Im a big fan, but i like Submerged. Yes i hoped there were more fights, more Steven Seagal in it, but it wasn't sooo bad, stop it. I mean first: The colors and the post production was done very well (except the voice dubbing), and the Action (Helicopter-Crash) wasn't that bad!!!

And only because i like this movie im not a Seagal Fan??? What the hell are you talking?? I mean i can say the same from ones who liked Into the Sun... Because i didn't enjoy that movie because Steven Seagal is only walking 80 minutes from scene to scene to speech to someone.

Someone likes this movie better, some the other ones. But that has nothing todo if they are Steven Seagal Fans or not. I like every movie he's in, and for me ITS A LOT MORE ENJOYABLE IF I SEE SOME ACTION SCENES, THAN ONLY 2 HOURS TALKING.

Please don't say im not a Steven Seagal Fan!

Over and Out!

 

[Nick]

hofmae

You are walking on quicksand with your Reply. It is Directed at LittleDragon and has a very good chance of getting Deleted.

"What the **** is that post???" and "...but it wasn't sooo bad, stop it".

"Over and Out!"

Are you talking on a walkie talkie?

 

[aikidoboynj]

TD

I agree with every one of your points and it is quite refreshing to see that you will allow yourself to be critical of certain aspects of the latest efforts by Steven Seagal. A strange thing to say, you may think, but I find it rather irritating that some people will not hear a bad word said about the big guy, when, basically, there is just so much wrong with what once was right! Basically, the only things missing from his latest straight to video efforts are anything involving a complete and coherent action film.

For me personally, it's getting really hard to justify watching a Steven Seagal movie as an action fan. Although Seagal still has a few years left in him yet, he seems determined to hang onto past glories. Or at least make an attempt to do so.

Everything about the roles he has played in his previous five or six movies is painfully routine, except that he moves slower, fights less, is stunt-doubled more and has at least half of his lines dubbed by a voice actor who doesn't even sound like him! I mean - I can do a half-decent Seagal impression - you just talk in a half whisper with a slightly menacing tone. If the guy has trouble speaking into his microphone, directors should simply cut his lines, as nothing is worse than unecessary dialogue in an action movie, particularly when it isn't even the voice of the 'star'.

Seagal's schtick as a broody ex-CIA agent who turns to spiritualism and then suddenly has to rely on his old skills for one last battle against some dude who has kidnapped his daughter/killed his wife/kidnapped a penfriend (yes, really)/ etc. etc. is definitely wearing thin with me and the bland action sequences and increasing sloppiness of his latest films, masked by a thin veneer of Hollywood polish makes watching his movies a continually unpleasant experience.

I don't really buy his movies expecting them to be good anymore - I buy them because I am a fan and the guy used to make awesome movies. I buy them with the faint hope that one day he will make a decent movie again, but each new one that he stacks up simply marked the next bad movie in a growing line of stinkers that Seagal just can't seem to steer clear of. It apparently hasn't crossed the minds of Seagal and his peers that a lean, character-driven script with high-impact screen fighting set in a simple location is worth more than all the other nonsense they continue to throw into their films. The plot needs to be kept simple, the pace of action continuous, and the stars should always look their best. If an 'action' filmmaker can't meet those standards, then they're selling their audience short and ought to find another line of work.

At the moment, if I was to recommend a decent Steven Seagal action movie to a friend, I would tell them not just to avoid his latest one, but his latest eight! If someone new to the world of Seagal saw any one of his latest eight efforts without seeing any of his earlier stuff, they would think that the movie was total sh*t. That is pretty sad, don't you think? Steven Seagal's last really decent movie was Exit Wounds back in 1999.

I'm pretty embarrassed going into a store to buy the the new Seagal movies at the moment, because they just look so damn lame! The only reason we tolerate this cr&p is because we know how good he once was and how good he could be again if he just put a little effort into his films, starred in a film with a decent script and teamed up with a good director. The true fans cling to the hope that somehow, someday, he will make a movie which is a return to his former glory days of Above The Law, Marked For Death, Hard To Kill, Out For Justice and Under Siege.

I have nothing more to say regarding this. At the moment.

GlimmerMan

WHOA Glimmer Man that is probably the best post I have read on here ever. Finally someone who can see past idolization and see whats going on. The whole part of avoiding his last 8 movies(imaginging what people think about him if they don't know his older flicks)...The whole holding on to a return to the Days Of John Hatcher... Everything dead on man. I guess John Hatcher "isn't functionable" anymore.