Using stand-in's now: how sad

[foxmulder]

OMG - just saw Black Dawn.

It must be an all-time low for him: he is not even doing his own fights! Wassup with that? :smad:

I mean: in the staircase scene there is this really bad looking stunt double that just looks like the worst double ever! And his moves! OMG that doesn't even look like Aikido! The only thing I see him doing are a few hand moves.

And what's up with faking Amsterdam? Jeezz, ok they have Dutch license plates on the cars, but the last time I have seen a Lada (car) like that is 10 years ago!

Steven needs to get into shape real bad! It's pathetic how he looks now.

I am (still) a fan of Steven, but really: he needs to get his act together.

How can talented(?) people mess up this bad and what in heaven's name did Seagal see in this project that made him want to get into it?

I mean, in Into the Sun (2005) Steven Seagal looked in the best shape he was in since Exit Wounds. He truly showed off his hard to hand combat moves as well as his Aikido throws and some pretty damn good sword skills.

As some guy said on a IMDB forum (and I quote):

"(...)Seagal, doesn't fit the strong, silent type paradigm because he looks like a porky zombie on ludes (...)

Man, I am longing for the days when he did GREAT movies like Nico, Out for Justice, Under Siege, Fire down Below and Exit Wounds.

 

[ORANGATUANG]

And you beleive this wanker from IMDB...dont beleive every thing you read ok?...and just fair warning we dont take to lightly to new comers even old comers dragging such an fine actors name through the mud...he will always have people putting him down but not here they dont ...this is an place where we can honour his name...as for his earlier movies they were ok but i prefer the ones he has made to date..but every one is different are'nt they?...thats it i have said my two cents worth..

 

[superman_64111]

I think it goes without saying that we all on this site enjoy Seagal's films. I believe that we all admire him and his talents. Why else would one regularly visit this forum? Should the person who posted the Seagal spoof video be knocked down for posting a satire that poked fun at our beloved cinema hero? Hell no!

Just because you are a fan doesn't mean that you can't offer frank and honest criticism. Foxmulder, I agree with you! When I watch a Seagal film I want to see the man himself busting the skulls of evil-doers, not his stunt double! Much like if you pay to see U2 in concert, you wouldn't want Bono to have a double come on stage and sing for him!

 

[SweetChinMusic]

he hasn't done his own fights in a long time, you must not watch many of his movies.

 

[pitts]

Movies are made to watch and enjoy, at full speed, not frame by frame, so that you can be a "want a be" critics. I have to figure that most of those doing the "slaming" haven't reached the mature age. I like all of Steven Seagal's movies and I like him as a person. I liked John Wayne, from the old black and whites, to his final appearance. He didn't do the same things in his last film he did in his first. Because of age. But he was still a great actor, no matter what role he played. It will happen to every actor. Whatever Steven decides to do in a movie I know I will enjoy it, because I don't expect him to do today, what he did 18 years ago in, Above the Law. His appearance and maturity is very handsome.

 

[lloydbanks]

i dont wanna see a stuntdouble fight master seagal has a blackbelt in aikido so i dont need a fightdouble

 

[ORANGATUANG]

Like i said Superman 64111 that every one has they oppinion and you cant please every one all of the time , just some of the time....Iam an person whos sticking by Steven no matter what sooo what if he might not live up to his expectations no way iam i turning on him....

 

[Pandora]

Movies are made to watch and enjoy, at full speed, not frame by frame, so that you can be a "want a be" critics. I have to figure that most of those doing the "slaming" haven't reached the mature age. I like all of Steven Seagal's movies and I like him as a person. I liked John Wayne, from the old black and whites, to his final appearance. He didn't do the same things in his last film he did in his first. Because of age. But he was still a great actor, no matter what role he played. It will happen to every actor. Whatever Steven decides to do in a movie I know I will enjoy it, because I don't expect him to do today, what he did 18 years ago in, Above the Law. His appearance and maturity is very handsome.

Well said!!!! I just enjoy the films and the more I see, the more I like Steven.
I know this sounds weird, but I also like Sean Connery more now than when he was younger as 007. They get that "softer" side to them that pulls the heart strings of we ladies. I also enjoy the fights, but don't expect each film to be made up of many of them, after all, the plot wouldn't get through if they were all fights and no stories. Steven is a fine humanitarian.

 

[supertom]

Seagal isn't past it yet and he's not quite the zen grandfather yet. Maybe in a few years we'll see Karate Kid 4, retitled as Aikido Kid, with Seagal in the Miyagi role, but I think he still has some ass kicking to offer. There's little excuse for him to not be doing his own fights at his age. Harrison Ford is 63, and still does a lot of stunt work himself. Stallone is coming up 60 and has just donned his gloves for a massive fight in Rocky 6. I know that those guys are in much better shape than Seagal, but surely he must be able to do more.

As for watching Seagal for his acting, that isn't exactly riviting. The guy at best isn't a great actor and his best performances are still in his older films. Nowadays he doesn't even muster more than a wooden whisper and looks totally bored. It's even a bonus if he performs all his own dialogue.

It's not simply Seagal's standard of movie that annoys some of us, and we are genuine fans who have a right to want a minimum standard, it's the fact that he gets double for his fights, he uses stand in's for shots, he doesn't act anymore he merely appears. Now I could forgive the overwieght thing, that's not a problem cause I enjoy wathcing Sammo Hung who still does the business. What I can't forgive is laziness. It owuld also help if instead of doing 5 or 6 movies a year which are mostly dreadful, average at best, he should do a couple and perhaps the participation in them and the quality might improve. It still annoys me seeing him double so much, even in that Orange ad he had a stand in.

I have to agree with the original poster on this one. At 5 million a film, the least Seagal could do is put some effort in. He at least needs to find prjects that enthuse him a bit more. Into The Sun was actually okay, because Seagal clearly wanted to be there and he did most of his fighting. Fingers crossed he films in Japan again.

Of course I won;t be dumping my Seagal allegience if he does a few more stinkers, I'll carry on watching whatever he churns out, although that may be via downloading rather than renting or purchasing, but I won't stop. If I had thatr sort of attitude I'd have given up being and Aston Villa fan a long time ago!

 

[Mason]

And you beleive this wanker from IMDB...dont beleive every thing you read ok?...and just fair warning we dont take to lightly to new comers even old comers dragging such an fine actors name through the mud...he will always have people putting him down but not here they dont ...this is an place where we can honour his name...as for his earlier movies they were ok but i prefer the ones he has made to date..but every one is different are'nt they?...thats it i have said my two cents worth..

Especialy not from IMDB.

 

[Fire Panda]

Especialy not from IMDB.

most of the people on IMDB.com have got to be the stupidest people on the web. a guy working on ROCKY BALBOA with stallone did an interview, and jokingly said that Mickey was cryogenticly frozen and would come back in this movie, this of course was complete crap, the actor is dead and the character died in III, and he himself said it was bull. but these idiots believed him!

imdb boards make me sad.

 

[spike]

I keep saying I'll never watch another Seagal movie, and of course, I do, and of course, they just get worse."Black Dawn" was horrible. They didn't even make much of an effort to hide the fact that he used a double for everything.
It's a pretty stark contrast when Seagal can't lift his fat a$$ out of a chair, then the double is doing all these fast paced martial arts moves.His movies should be catagoried as comedies, now.
Of course, I'll watch the next one, too.
spike

 

[pitts]

I keep saying I'll never watch another Seagal movie, and of course, I do, and of course, they just get worse."Black Dawn" was horrible. They didn't even make much of an effort to hide the fact that he used a double for everything.
It's a pretty stark contrast when Seagal can't lift his fat a$$ out of a chair, then the double is doing all these fast paced martial arts moves.His movies should be catagoried as comedies, now.
Of course, I'll watch the next one, too.
spike

YOUR A FAN?????????????????????????????????????NOT

 

[ORANGATUANG]

Thanks Pitts..(forgive me steven) hey he might have an fat ass, but at least its an rich fat ass...

 

[spike]

YOUR A FAN?????????????????????????????????????NOT

>>>Let's say I'm a recovering fan. Like an alcoholic who knows that next drink is no good for him, I know Seagal's next movie will suck, however, I see that DVD on the shelf, and I just can't help it, i succumb. Then later, I hate myself.He's syealing money right now.
spike

 

[ORANGATUANG]

Like i said before i didnt know you were an person who can see into the future...we are sick of people like you who have an go at his weight, age, and now drink?...I know alot of members here will agree when i say Steven Seagal will always be many the times an man then you or any one who puts him down are..soooo please on the way out dont let the door hit you in the ass!!!!!!!!....and calling him an theif you really dont know who you are messing with do you?...boy i would love him to see this..

 

[suziwong]

>>>Let's say I'm a recovering fan. Like an alcoholic who knows that next drink is no good for him, I know Seagal's next movie will suck, however, I see that DVD on the shelf, and I just can't help it, i succumb. Then later, I hate myself.He's syealing money right now.
spike

I keep saying I'll never watch another Seagal movie, and of course, I do, and of course, they just get worse."Black Dawn" was horrible. They didn't even make much of an effort to hide the fact that he used a double for everything.
It's a pretty stark contrast when Seagal can't lift his fat a$$ out of a chair, then the double is doing all these fast paced martial arts moves.His movies should be catagoried as comedies, now.
Of course, I'll watch the next one, too.
spike

Hi,

If you don't want you will not watch him and his movies but Please be respectful to Steven Seagal and to us... We like and enjoy from his movies.. Good or bad it doesn't matter!!!

 

[ORANGATUANG]

Thank you Suzi....Love your signature those eyes say it all..

 

[suziwong]

Thank you Suzi....Love your signature those eyes say it all..

Thank you my dear too.
But this is reality Heather.. If someone doesn't want he/she may not watch it..It is very rude... We enjoy and we will watch... !!!!

 

[ORANGATUANG]

Ditto!!! Steven will always be number 1...Have you ever heard that saying "if you cant handle the heat, get out of the kitchen" that applies to members who are always mean to him...Goodnight Dear Steven and sweet dreams Suzi
this girls going to bed...