Aikido or karate?


Reservoir Dog said:
LOL. One more question guys. Are any of you familiar with the style of "hapkido". There is a dojo that teaches it close to my house, and I was thinking of taking that. Okinawan Karate Do is also offered but a little farther. The aikido dojos turn out to be in very dangerous neighborhoods, especially at night, and I dont want to travel down there that late. But, back to hapkido and karate do, How do these two stack up?


"Chance Favors the Prepared Mind"

Maybe this will also help, Reservoir Dog. :) This was a thread started back here last year regarding hapkido.


Hapkido was also known as: yu kwon sool, yu-sool, ho shin sool, and bi sool.

Here's something else I found that might help.

Yong Shul Choi studied Daito-ryu-aiki-aikijujitsu in Japan and later (after WW2) founded Hapkido (Korean martial art) by combining aiki-jujitsu with hwarangdo ("martial way - internal/external/weapon/mental power" the training consisted of the renowned empty hand system that blended hard and soft, linear and circular techniques, as well as 108 different weapons along with acupressure in traditional teachings) and taekyon (some more Korean styles).

There are three major hapkido pioneers in the United States: Sea Oh Choi (introduced Hapkido to U.S. upon immigrating), bong Soo Han, and He-Young Kimm. WBB.

J. Aiello

New Member
Make sure you attend each school for a couple of classes. Evaluate what you see. Ask youself why you're taking this art (self-defense? sport? fitness? All of the above?) It will immensely help your choices.


Disposition Seagal
I took a little hapkido while I was taking korean karate (I really can't remember what it was called for some reason) at the same school. To me hapkido is aikido with large combos and kicks. I really enjoyed taking hapkido and when I spoke to the teacher about learning more of it (only once a week whereas the korean karate was 6 days) he didn't really pay attention to my request (that and other reasons were why I dropped out of that school (also he was a "money grabber") ). I definately think hapkido is a fine art that is good for strength, self-defence, etc. By the way, I was wondering how someone would go about discovering if there were Aikido schools in an area that taught Steven Seagal's style (maybe even a student of Steven Seagal like had been mentioned). I guess the best way would be to visit schools and ask the teacher but maybe another way...


Martial Art Student

I might be able to help you in your quest, but I am not sure. Depending on where you live there might be an affiliate dojo that teaches Tension Aikido which is the style of Seagal Sensei. The Tension Aikido Federation, headed by Luis Santos Sensei, a direct student of Seagal Sensei, has many affiliate dojos opening throughout the USA. If you do a search on the web and type in Tension Aikido, this will pull up multiple hits and you should come across the Seizan Dojo web page. This is the site for Santos Sensei. It lists affiliate dojos and also how to become an affiliate dojo (for those schools wishin to learn/teach Seagal Sensei's methods). I hope this helps and if you need anything , please let me know. You can also try this web site . This is my dojo and we are all students of Santos Sensei. I hope this has been helpful.


Disposition Seagal
Thank you tenshinaikidoka (the nickname definately fits :) ). I very much appreciate the information and will check it out.


Martial Art Student
Did the site work????? You can link from that site to Santos Sensei and hopefully that would work. If not let me know and I will give you info. direct.


Disposition Seagal
I don't know everything just seems to close when I try to open that site. I found another site that told that the only Tenshin Aikido school was about 20+ miles from where I live in PA.


Martial Art Student
Well Zen, one thing I can say is this, if you find an Aikido school taht is close to you, I would look into it. Just be careful of people claiming to be high ranking instructors who charge large amounts of money only to find out the things you learn do not work. I have personally experienced that. I wish you well in your search. Remember, it is all Aikido and the principles should be the same.


Disposition Seagal
I just wish I could juggle school, work, and my relationship with my girlfriend along with martial arts. I guess I have to wait until college is over ('cause that's the only one that's going to end soon).


Martial Art Student
Well Zen, don't give up. Is Aikido possibly an interest to your girlfriend? It is a great art for women since it doesn't rely on strength to apply techniques. My wife is actually starting and has loved what she has learned so far.


Above The Law
Like Ed Parker says, It is not the style but the man....

I prefer Shotokan, and Kyukoshin (sorry for the mis spelling) Karate

and for Aikido I prefer Aikikai Aikido


I don't have rage.
I have pondered taking up a martial art. A couple, actually, as cross-training is essential these days with martial arts being popular and widespread.

I'd like to take up Western boxing, just need to find a place that teaches it. Around here it almost seems to be extinct. There is an Aikido dojo fairly near me, but I'm not sure about it. It's taught at a naval academy.

There is also a Japanese Ju-Jitsu dojo nearby, but I'm not sure which would be more effective: Japanese Ju-Jitsu or Brazilian Ju-Jitsu? BJJ seems to stress more grappling which is fine for more one-on-one fights, but I'd prefer something applicable to multiple opponents. Any advice?


Another addition to my wu-shu/boxing/kick-boxing ... sambo:

I am not the one to talk about Brazillian ju-jitsu, but I recently took up Judo, and it's fun, exciting, and very satisfying.


candle lighter
Hapkido is my preference, but there are many schools and instructors and styles. After training for many years in TaeKwonDo and Hapkido, as well as a couple other styles, I always favored the Hapkido techniques. The main thing though, when considering a martial arts style is to attend several schools and check out the instructors. You will know if it is "right" for you. A good MA instructor should balance the hard physical training with the spiritual and mental training - both are equally important to learn any martial art. One without the other leaves only half a person. Actually, the basis of martial arts IS the spiritual aspect. Once recognized, the physical training becomes crystal clear. Learn from "the inside-out". Whatever you decide, good luck and train hard! :)


**** you and Die!
I take kenpo but im curious into buying some dvds on aikido. I respect aikido for was it is. And there was a aikido dojo nearby but he moved. I love kenpo but i go to classes so i learn everything for kenpo there. But I also love aikido. So on the side i read aikido and do zen and take kenpo.

Pyro Pete

New Member
I currently take Karate, and Jujitsu...but would like also to take lessons in Aikido, and even bought DVD's to on how to master it. But it seems that Aikido is very diffucult, thats why I'm only taking 'Pratical Aikido', for situations that are deadly, or dangerous.
My sensie requires I first master my current martial arts, then move on to Aikido, since
it is a very religous, and diffucult martial art. Is this true?? Or can I stat learining now?
I respect my sensie, but I just wanted to ask for advice...Thanks. Jia'jin. (Goodby)


I don't think that there is a specific time at which you can start training in Aikido

Aikido is considered to be one of the hardest martial arts to master.


Aikido,"the way of divine harmony", was developed from Zen philosophy in the belief that the center of mediation and the source of mental strength or power, ki, is centered in the body, about an inch above the navel.

Aikido is essentially noncombative, emphasizing throwing and joint techniques over striking and kicking techniques. Aikido students are taught to react to an attack by throwing and subduing the aggressor by applying pressure to joints or vital points causing pain and submission.

Founded in 1938 by Ueshiba Morihei, a martial artists who had studied daito-ryu aiki-ju-jitsu. He started teaching his new ‘way of divine harmony’ which was dubbed Aikido to promote a higher level of martial artist for 20th Century Japan.

The techniques Ueshiba created emphasized throwing and ensnaring by the use of circular movements. Evasion techniques are used to avoid conflict; the art is reminiscent of the internal schools of Chinese martial arts. Ueshiba placed great emphasis upon the harmony of mind, body and spirit and discouraged the sporting, competitive aspects of training. Since Aikido is an entirely defensive art the notion of practicing free form sparring was unacceptable, and morally repugnant.

Ueshiba died in 1969 and the development of Aikido was taken over by his son, Kisshomaru Ueshiba. Aikikai is the name give to his central dojo in the Shinjuku district of Tokyo where classes are conducted 7 days a week.

The teaching of the Daito-ryu aiki-jujitsu, the roots of Aikido, continue today, under the guidance of Tokimune Takeda in Tokyo Japan. Among Ueshiba’s senior disciples, in addition to his son, are Koichi Tohei, Gozo Shioda, Minoru Mochizuki and Kenji Tomiki.

Several of his most prominent students broke from Ueshiba’s teachings to develop their own style of Aikido.

Tomiki, who had also studied judo before joining Ueshiba, decided to create his own style of sport Aikido. It combines many special techniques that derive from judo and is taught in many Japanese universities as well as other countries.

Shioda’s yoshin style is combat-oriented and closely resembles the classical sect of aiki-jujitsu, though it’s spiritual purpose is like Ueshiba’s Aikido. This system is too popular and taught throughout the world.