Did the unthinkable (my Aikido journey)

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
Well done TD, i walk past an martial arts place nearly every day ..thats as far as i get walk past...one day i might get the courage towalk in and you just never know..but who can see me doing that..my poor bones i can hear them now..
 

ad_adrian

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your never 2 old to improve tdwoj...you have done a good step to start and put in the effort...thats the hard part

keep at it and im SURE u will improve ;)
 

TDWoj

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Amos surely has his little ways, doesn't he.... :D

I've made an appointment with a sports medicine specialist for next week. I'm not convinced my family doctor, who is a general practitioner, is qualified to assess the extent of the injury or the effect, long-term, or even the proper treatment if I want to continue doing aikido. If I wasn't doing aikido, it would probably be okay, since right at the moment, on a daily basis, I don't actually have much pain (though I do get the occasional twinge) and it doesn't stop me from doing anything, like heavy lifting, for example.

But! If I try to fall or do any rolls, yowza - major ouch.

Amos, you can keep your flowers for the time being - feel sorry for poor uke (I'm getting pretty good at some of the techniques, although to my dying day, I will absolutely hate nikkyo).

We hare having another seminar here in Toronto in June, with Donovan Waite Sensei. Everybody seems to be pretty excited about it... I've heard he really likes to stretch out the time doing stretches, though, so I guess I'd better do extra warm-up exercises at home, with a stop watch! I can barely get through five seconds of some of the stretches, and he likes going at least a minute or more... ouch ouch ouch!
 

Lollipop

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You are really hanging in there! I have been reading your post! At least you have stuck with it!! We are all proud of you!!

We will probably be sending the flowers to Amos, because surely someone someday is going to get him! I suppose that little rat he had with the gun is his protection!
 

TDWoj

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Lollipop said:
You are really hanging in there! I have been reading your post! At least you have stuck with it!! We are all proud of you!!

We will probably be sending the flowers to Amos, because surely someone someday is going to get him! I suppose that little rat he had with the gun is his protection!

Thanks, Lollipop. I never thought I'd find an activity that I enjoyed so much, which is why I'm so concerned about the extent of the injury. I hope the sports medicine doctor will be able to figure out if there's scar tissue, or if there's treatment I should be getting that my family doctor is unaware of. I really want to continue with this.

As for Amos... Mrs. Amos and I are going to sit down and have a very long talk one day. A very long talk, indeed...
 

Lollipop

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TDWoj said:
Thanks, Lollipop. I never thought I'd find an activity that I enjoyed so much, which is why I'm so concerned about the extent of the injury. I hope the sports medicine doctor will be able to figure out if there's scar tissue, or if there's treatment I should be getting that my family doctor is unaware of. I really want to continue with this.

As for Amos... Mrs. Amos and I are going to sit down and have a very long talk one day. A very long talk, indeed...

Make it soon with Amos!!

That is why it would be such a shame if you could not continue on! Your post do sound like it is very hard, but I also can hear you do like it!
You have alot of support here!

:apeace:
 

TDWoj

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Amos Stevens said:
Remind me to make out my last will before you demonstrate nikkyo on me :(

Oh, you won't need a will... but is your medical insurance up to date? I might end up wrinkling your wrists, just a bit.... :D
 

TDWoj

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I just hope this injury is sorted out before then. I'm almost looking forward to being tested... almost! :D And if there's anyone who needs help with their ukemi, it's I.

-TD, still rolling cardboard box style (well, she was up until she hurt herself)
 

TDWoj

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From ad_adrian's thread:

scotch.on.the.rocks said:
Adrian, in case you don't already know, maybe you should know that what you're practicing is not actually Aikido the way the Founder ultimately taught it, but a martial technique that he practiced during his earlier days, while he was still searching. It is a lot more aggressive than the Aikido taught by the Hombu Dojo, and there is lot less emphasis on kokyu, which I think is rather unfortunate. But it's up to you to decide, if you want a more martial style of Aikido, then you're probably at the right place (as a side note, Seagal Sensei's style is probably closer to Yoshinkan than Hombu).

TDWoj, you're right about the footwork (ashi sabaki), it is important, but it's not actually THAT important. Watch OSensei in his late years, he was not concerned AT ALL about fragmenting a technique in so many pieces like that. He would just go for it and do it (mind you, that's what Seagal Sensei says as well). Just focus on your hara, enter (irimi), turn (tenkan) and apply the technique! For instance, if you're attacked with a punch or a knife from the front (chudan tsuki) and you want to apply kotegaeshi, you relax, focus on hara, enter beside the attacking hand, turn, grab the wrist and apply kotegaeshi. I know I make it sound more simple than it is, but really, you shouldn't get entangled in too many details, ultimately they're not that important. At least in my view. In a real life situation you have to be able to move and respond quickly at least to avoid an attack, if not more. And that comes down to keeping the distance (ma ai), irimi/tenkan, hara centering and a few other such general principles.

Well, I've been getting some interesting comments from a few of my practice partners, some of them black belts. It seems I've got the knack of being centred. I was working with a black belt last night and he's not the type to fool around and "let" his partner do anything to him he doesn't want to do, like fall down. I always get nervous when I have this guy as a partner. After I threw him a few times, he exchanged comments with another black belt, opining that it was I that was just toying with him. I just stood there, and looked innocent.... but what I really was, was surprised, because that wasn't the first time a black belt has said something about my stance. Another one I hadn't worked with before, when we were practicing tenkan, she said I was really solid in my centre. And again, I was surprised, because my balance isn't - or, wasn't, I guess - very good in the beginning.

I do concentrate on footwork, though, because I have this odd problem in that if I can't see my feet, I don't know where they are. It's very hard for me to look face-on at my opponent because I'm worried my feet will get me tangled up. It's taken a lot of practice for me to even do tenkan without looking at my feet, and whenever we start a new technique, I'm always concentrating on where the feet go, first, then the hands, because otherwise, I'll just get tangled up and lose my balance.

I know it's weird, but that's among the many things I have to compensate for, when I'm learning the techniques.

Next thing to have to compensate for is how I'm going to do a standing forward roll on the right side when my right hip is still too stiff to let me get closer to the floor.
 
This is getting interesting, isn’t it?

Well, first off, well done for being “really solid in your centre”, that’s probably the alpha & omega of Aikido (in my view).

Now, regarding your “odd problem”, I don’t think you should look at your feet AT ALL. The question is then of course, where should one be looking? The answer to this is a wee complex. Actually, you shouldn’t be looking at ANY object in principle. I don’t know whether you have any experience of seated meditation (Buddhist or Taoist), but that could give you a hint in this respect (O Sensei used to call this chinkon kishin). The truth of the matter is, you shouldn’t be looking anywhere outside, but rather inside! What this means is, you’ll simply have to pay attention to your posture (which should be always erect :D), relaxation (which will help plunge deep down in your hara), keeping your head up (which will help improve your awareness) and the like. That’s basically where the focus of attention should go (I’ll back up my statements with quotes from the Founder in a sec.) It’s only the PERIPHERAL attention that perceives those OTHER things (footwork, handwork, the opponent’s moves, the birds chirping, a baby crying, a car crashing etc.), but the main focus remains inside.

Here are the quotations from O Sensei:

“Do not stare into the eyes of your opponent: he may mesmerize you. Do not fix your gaze on his sword: he may intimidate you. Do not focus on your opponent at all: he may absorb your energy. The essence of training is to bring your opponent completely into your sphere. Then you can stand wherever you like.”

And a second one, on NEN (concentration):

“This body is the concrete unification of the physical and spiritual created by the universe. It breathes the subtle essence of the universe and becomes one body with it, so training is training in the path of human life. In training the first task is to continually discipline the spirit, sharpen the power of nen, and unify body and mind. This is the foundation for the development of waza (technique), which in turn unfolds endlessly through nen.

It is essential that waza always be in accord with the truth of the universe. For that to take place proper nen is necessary. If one's nen is connected to the desires of the small self, it is erroneous. Since training based upon erroneous ideas goes against the truth of the universe, it invites its own tragic consequences and eventual destruction.

Nen is never concerned with winning or losing, and it grows by becoming properly connected to the ki of the universe. When that happens, nen becomes a supernatural power that sees clearly all things in the world, even the smallest movement of hand or foot. One becomes like the clear mirror reflecting all things, and since one stands in the center of the universe, one can see with clarity that which is off-center. This is the truth of winning without fighting.

To develop the subtle movements of ki based on nen, you must understand that the left side of the body is the basis of martial art and the right side is where the ki of the universe appears. When one reaches the realm of absolute freedom, the body becomes light and manifests divine transformations. The right side brings forth power through the left. The left becomes a shield and the right the foundation of technique. This natural, spontaneous law of nature must be based in the centre, and one must manifest the self freely as dynamic, spherical rotation.”

I hope this will prove helpful.

;)
 
ad_adrian said:
scotch on the rocks you seem to know quite a lot about aikido

Well Adrian, thanks for the vote of confidence. The problem is that, as the Founder once said, “if the spirit of the Art will not be understood, the goal will never be attained”. The outer techniques are basically nothing but the expression of an inner attitude towards the universe. So if you approach the Art with a wrong attitude, even if the technique is correct, you will have missed. On the other hand, if your attitude is correct, even if the technique is not so perfect, you will still have attained, nonetheless! Because “the secret of Aikido does not lie in the way you move your feet, but in the way you move your mind” (O Sensei). If the mind understands correctly, the body will follow.
 

Aikilove

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scotch.on.the.rocks said:
Here are the quotations from O Sensei:

“Do not stare into the eyes of your opponent: he may mesmerize you. Do not fix your gaze on his sword: he may intimidate you. Do not focus on your opponent at all: he may absorb your energy. The essence of training is to bring your opponent completely into your sphere. Then you can stand wherever you like.
Hmmm... I wonder if you havn't mixed it up a little here?
If I recall in stead of the bolded part there was something like:
.../His hands will reveal all his intentions
Or something like that. I have seen more than one translation however and it was a long time since I read them myself... I think John Stevens made translations that sometimes brakes a little with other peoples translations...

Personaly I tend to defocus my vision but keep it at the partners chest area.

Regarding TD-Woj: Your feet are where they always have been - at the end of your legs. But I know... It's something I've always have to tell our beginners too.: Stop looking at your hands! They are going to be at the end of your arms. Look around you instead. That's where the next possible hoodlum will be!
Easier said than done, I know. But ultimately you should try to feel where your body parts are and how your posture are, and where your partners bodyparts are.

/J
 

TDWoj

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What I'm working on right now is breathing. The usual response to stress - an attack - is to stop breathing, which, of course, gets you hurt because your body isn't relaxed. Inhale going in - exhale going out. Sounds simple, doesn't it? Well, it's simple - but it's not easy. Same thing when you're nage - breathe in, breathe out.

We had a free three-hour workshop this weekend, with about half a dozen people coming in to try aikido on for size. Hard to believe that was me five months ago! When one of the new people asked me how long I'd been doing aikido and I said, five months, they couldn't believe it. One guy was certain I was already ranked, but I said no.

Seems I catch on quick, at least from an intellectual point of view. Physical, maybe not so much at the moment (stupid injury).

Going four times per week helps, too, I guess!

The workshop also talked about where to look, and you're right - where you're supposed to be looking is in the direction of the next attacker. As long as you're connected to uke, you know where he is - now you're on the lookout for the next attacker.

I remember a few months ago we did a technique and the instructor then changed the parameters a bit and told us we had to do the technique with our eyes closed. That was interesting. We haven't done an exercise like that since, but I'm hoping we'll get to do it again.

Going back to the workshop, another measure of my overall general physical improvement was that I lasted for the whole workshop without having to stop and step off for half an hour to recover.

Other improvements - I went into Staples for some office supplies and wanted to look at a fax machine on the bottom shelf of a display. So, I squatted down, had my close look, then stood up again - and then realised, "hey, wait a minute, I can't do that!".

I skipped all the way home. (Couldn't do that before, either.)

I can now grab my wrists behind my back (though it's still a little painful), and I can sit cross-legged - which, when I started, because of my stiff hip, I couldn't bring my right leg in very far. So the rotation in the right hip is improving with classes and chiropractic treatment, although I am still having trouble on that side getting low enough to go into a standing forward roll (I'm just practicing the position - I've still got 10 days left before I can officially start practicing ukemi again).

I'm still very stiff in my joints, but a lot less so than when I started. My stamina is better, and I can even feel that I'm walking a lot better. My posture has improved (though I still have a bad habit of slouching in my office chair - stop that!), I can walk down stairs (my right knee is still giving me trouble, but I think as I lose more weight and get the muscles expanded again, that might improve. Or, I might have to have surgery. We'll see.)

(Oh - and I've also lost 19 pounds. Whee!)

Overall, it's been a very positive experience, and even though I wonder sometimes (especially when on the receiving end of nikyo or sankyo) if this was such a good idea, I've really come to enjoy doing aikido.

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Other notes: now that I know a little about aikido it's more fun watching Steven's movies because when he does a move I can see it now - well, when I watch it in slow motion, because he still does some stuff lightning fast. I was watching The Foreigner this weekend (so that I can get into the head of the character Jonathon Cold for my novel), and it was pretty damned cool seeing him use a defense against a knife attack, for example, against a gun (I think it was irimitenkan in one, definitely shihonage in the other).

So, now, of course, I'm going to have to watch all the rest of them (the ones where he's doing the work himself, that is), and see what else I can catch.
 
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