Mistakes in Seagal movies

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
Above The Law:

At the Christening party for Nico's baby, his partner meets him after arriving late. She calls him "Steve" instead of Nico, his character name.

During the chase scene Steven Seagal has his tyre shot as he's fleeing from the bad guys, in the next scene the tires are totally gone from the rims, then they're back again, then they're gone again.

Marked For Death:

Steven Seagal's character visits his friend in Ohio. They are standing in a high school football field and you can clearly see tall palm trees in the background. This same mistake is later repeated in another street scene.

In the scene where the BMW drives past the front of Seagal's sister's house and the Jamaican's riddle the front of the house with machine-gun fire, Seagal quickly slams the front door shut, and you can very clearly see all the stunt charges attached to the door.

In the hospital scene, after Steven's niece is shot in the drive-by, while he is speaking to his sister and the doctor, Steve is wearing an all black jacket. Then he walks into the niece's room and he's wearing a different black jacket with two gold dragons on either side. Then when he walks out, he's wearing the all black jacket again.

When Hatcher is in the factory in Jamaica, a "Jamaican" bad guy jumps up from behind a barrel, you can see that he is in fact white - you can see the make-up line on his neck, and his wig is crooked.

Hard To Kill:

In the liquor store scene, you can clearly see the mats on the floor for the stuntmen.

Storm is in a coma for 7 years, but how is it that on the day he awakes from the coma, he not only has the strength to move his bed down corridors but also knows the layout of the hospital?

When Seagal and McGillis are driving through the field he is shown driving from both sides of the vehicle. One moment on the left and the next very quick shot on the right.

Storm and Kelly LeBrock are in the jeep and are being chased through some fields by the bad guys. There are several bullets shot into the windshield of their jeep. During the course of the chase it appears that the formation of the bullet holes changes throughout the chase.

Also during the car chase scene when Storm and Kelly LeBrock are in the jeep. Through much of this scene, the license plate on the front of the jeep is on the driver's side. But, towards the end of the sequence, there are a couple of seconds where the jeep shows the plate to be on the passenger side. It then goes back to being on the driver's side as the chase ends.

The hit man stands in front of a bank of elevators in the hospital. He turns to run to the other bank and a hand reaches across to shut the elevator door as he approaches.

In the shoot out scene at the train station between Captain O'Malley and the bad guys, through O'Malley's shirt you can see the patch strip they use to make the fake bullet holes when he gets shot. You see it well because he gets shot in slow motion.

In the train station scene, when O'Malley is shot, watch the front of his shirt as he hides behind the cab so he can start shooting the bad guys. He was running away from them when he gets hit once in the back. Then, as he turns around to fire back behind the car, there are two bullet holes in his shirt with blood dripping down like he had been hit. But he was only shot once in the back.

Storm is wearing a suit and vest in the beginning of the film when he is all shot up. He is then wearing the same suit and vest later in the film when he recovers

Out For Justice:

At the beginning when Bobby is shot, you can clearly see mudstains on his wife's knees as she sinks to the floor beside her husband's body - they obviously had to film that scene more than once.

When Bobby is shot, there is a lot of blood on his nice white shirt, but when Gino views the body on the street, there is noticeably less.

Under Siege:

Strannex must have planted his own men on the Missouri when it was docked at Hawaii. If you count the men seen on the helicopter the band and the caterers arrive on, there are 15 guys. Ryback kills more then 15 as he traipses around the ship. A simple body count will show that. The only conclusion is that he put on more of his men in Hawaii.

In each film Segal plays a chief petty officer, who happens to be an ex-Navy SEAL. In the posters for Under Siege, he's shown in the dress white uniform of an admiral. In the second film he's still depicted as an officer, but he has been demoted to a lieutenant. I guess the producers just thought the officer's uniform look prettier, even though they're the very same uniform, except a chief has anchors on his collar and no shoulder boards.

An Iowa class battleship 16 inch gun turret requires 77 men to operate. There is no way Ryback and his 6 or 7 guys could operate the turret, let alone fire and reload in the time given.

The bad guys construct 'rails' to move the missiles out of the ship, but even before construction, the yellow/black rails are clearly visible, when the captive sailors are being ushered into the holding cell.

In one sequence (in which Ryback tries to save the drowning sailors), Ryback is running with two machine guns and kills a bunch of bad guys, including one guy with a moustache and cap who falls down a flight of stairs. After the machine guns are empty, he pulls out a pistol, slowly goes into another room and, surprise! the same guy appears, gets shot and falls down the stairs! Its obvious they ran out of guys to kill in the film, so they just ran the same film twice to look more violent.

When Erika Eleniak and Steven Seagal walk through the battle-ship and talk about her rule, ie. not killing people and not dating musicians, Steven has different types of the SMG MP5 in his hands. The gun changes from MP5 to MP5K and back in the blink of an eye.

After Erika jumps out of the cake, they leave the room and close the door behind them. When the door closes there is a shadow of the cameraman on it.

The big black terrorist who always accompanies Strannex loses his grey waiter jacket when he and the other terrorists are herding the Missouri crew into the makeshift prison. You can see this clearly when he shoots a marine prisoner who tries to overpower him. Later, when he follows Strannex into the captain's office, he is wearing his waiter jacket again.

Near the end of the movie, when Strannex launches the two tomahawk missiles toward Hawaii, look closely at where the missiles are launching. they're firing out of the space between the two ABLs (Armored Box Launchers) instead of from inside the launchers.

Tomahawk cruise missiles on the Iowa class battleships are stored and fired from the armored box launchers mounted on the superstructure. To offload them you would build a crane to swing them over onto the sub. Why build a rail system inside the ship, when the missiles are not inside the ship at all?

During the final fight scene where Strannex dies, Seagal pushes his thumb into Strannex's eye. If you pause the tape, you can clearly see Seagal's thumb is bent inward.

When Seal team 5 is sent in to retake the Missouri, Strannex's man sees them trying to sneak in under the ship's radar. As the team readies to drop in on the ship's bow, look through the windshield of the helicopter. No wonder the Missouri picked the helicopter up on radar. They are way up in the air and well within radar range.

When the jet fighter is flying by the naval ship, it gets shot down by a CIWS Phalanx system. Two problems here:
1. The control panel used to fire it is not the real control panel.
2. The gun system that fires on the plane shoots at it when the plane is going away from the ship. This system will not shoot at any outbound going targets.

The space on the ship where the bad guys are supposed to be moving all those rails out doesn't really exist. Battleships were designed for compartmentation, with the largest interior spaces being the engine rooms. a space like that could fill with water and could easily cause stability problems. also, there was no provision for the 5 inch armor plate which comprises the deck above "broadway." A large open hole in this armor would have left the ship's machinery vulnerable to large caliber enemy fire.

After taking control of the ship, the navy sends an F-16 to the Missouri "to look for the helicopter" as Strannex's man puts it. Let's see. The Missouri is returning to the mainland. It's still carrying its nuclear arsenal and the navy is worried because the helicopter that brought the party guys is missing? Someone's priorities are misplaced.

On Deadly Ground:

In the scene where Steven Seagal is fighting the man in the bar. He hits the man, who falls to the floor and vomits. In the next shot the man is laying on the floor and no vomit is seen on the floor, but comments are made about it from bystanders.

When Forrest is fighting with the oil worker AKA big balls, big balls is knocked to the ground and emerges with one side of his face covered in a red liquid (ketchup or blood). In the very next shot of him we see that his face is totally clean even from the grime of working in the oil refinery.

Towards the end of the movie we see Steven Seagal telling a room full of reporters and Native Americans that we must not pollute our planet by using oil. That we must find alternatives to crude oil and not harm or further damage our atmosphere. During the course of the movie Steven blows up a helicopter, explodes a satchel bomb on pristine terrain, and lastly blows up an entire oil refinery that rains havoc on the environment by polluting the water, air and soil with crude oil and dead bodies he is voicing to protect.

It is physically impossible to snow machine from the Arctic circle area to Valdez in one day, as Steven Seagal does.

Picky I admit, but the scene where the Native Alaskan Shaman is talking to Steven Seagal, the Shaman is dressed in Athabaskan attire, but is supposed to be an Inupiat Eskimo.

When Seagal rides into the hills he is wearing an embroidered and fringed hide tunic. At this point the tunic is a pale cream colour, later, at the refinery the tunic appears to be a dark rust colour, and even later, after all the explosions, when they are escaping from the refinery it has become a light tan. Was he carrying a couple of spares?

Under Siege 2:

After the train comes to a complete and lurching stop, the porter is shown being thrown forward into the bad guys as a lot of baggage falls all over the place. In the final fight scene as Ryback is entering the dining car, all the tables have all their place settings perfectly intact.

The footage of the "Nevada Petrol Express" actually is of a similiar operation that used to run over the Tecahapi Pass in Southern California. And "Espee" terminology never had "Petrol" in it's language.

When the villain finishes his 1st appearence in the Pentagon's videowall (with the fake Eiffel Tower on the back), the screen turns black when he finishes his statement. However, when the camera turns to the Army men present, you can see the reflection of the villain's face on the glass.

In the scene where Casey Ryback is heading towards the start of the train, Penn asks his henchman to check the roof of the carriage. In the first shot a man gets up off his seat and another one takes his place. In the second shot when the man is outside making his way onto the roof, you can clearly see that the other man has not moved from his position, let alone taken his place.

When the satellite destroys the fertiliser plant in China we see a 2 second shot of a steel tower collapsing into a ball of flames. This exact shot was used in one of Steven Segal's other films: On Deadly Ground.

In the same scene where Penn's henchmen find out that Ryback is on top of the front carriage, the men in that carriage start firing at him. Under fire from the bad guys, Ryback pulls out a machine gun and fires back. Where the hell does Ryback get this gun from? Before he approaches the carriage you clearly see him carrying no other weapon besides his pistol. He has killed two bad guys before this and may have taken their weapons, but you never see the machine gun on him when he is under fire. Magically he pulls one out and fires back.

Now why the heck is one of the stealth fighters anywhere near the train? Stealth fighters use advanced targeting and do not need to be anywhere near their target, yet in the movie the one fighter is so close to the train when it gets blown up that it looks like it's on a collision course.

When the kitchen is shot at by the bad guys, the chefs inside do not get hit as you can not see any blood, but when it goes to close up, they are ridden with bullets and blood is everywhere.

This happens when they stop the train in order to get the CD that was confiscated by Steven Seagal. A moment or two after the train comes to a complete stop, Travis Dane explains how important the disc is - if you look behind him you can see the scenery outside the window still moving very quickly.

How does a portable radar device inside a metal moving train in the mountains detect an F-117 stealth fighter, which has a radar cross section the size of a bumble-bee?

When Ryback enters his message about the train being hijacked into his PDA he FAXes it to the Mile High Cafe. However, listed immediately before the Mile High Cafe on the PDA's phone list is Seal TAC. It's implied early in the movie that Ryback is now a Lieutenant in the SEALs. Wouldn't it make more sense to send a message of a hijacked train to the SEALs instead of a restaurant?

Look for the blatantly awful special effects when the main bad guy is falling into the flames.

The Glimmer Man:

During a scene where Steven Seagal dives over a wall to escape an exploding vehicle, the view changes to overhead and you can see the spotter there to make sure that Steven Seagal hits his mark.

Near the begging of the movie Steven Seagal and Keenan Ivory Wayans are driving to a hostage taking in a car that's seen as a Chevolet Caprice from the front and as a Ford Crown Victoria when seen from the rear.

In the scene where Keenan is watching Casablanca, Seagal shows him a yellow slip and is weaing gloves. When they show his full body he has no gloves on.

When Seagal is about to climb down the front of the hotel near the end of the movie, the camera shows a brown rope being thrown over the sign for him to use, yet when he starts to come down the side of the building, he is using a black rope, and a harness.

When the killer and Seagal are fighting in the last scene, and the killer is thrown out of the window, you can clearly see the black shards on the window bend.

In a fight scene between Seagal and the masked assassin, when he and Seagal are fighting you can clearly see the stand in for the killer doing the martial arts is obviously shorter than the actor he's meant to be a double for.

Fire Down Below:

In the scene where the town folk are having an outdoor festival, Steven Seagal's character is invited to play with the band. An older gentleman hands him a guitar with nylon string tuners (open headed classical type) but when he takes it from him, it is a Steel string Martin Acoustic (solid headed flat top) guitar.

In the scene where Jack Taggart takes Cotton to the doctor's office, his truck door sign reads Hanner Coal Company. The door sign has read Appalachian Relief Mission in all other scenes.

Near the end where the bad guys gang up on Seagal in the big cave under the mountain, all the bad guys not killed by Segal can't escape, and die in the explosion. Seagal finds his way out using a passage that ends in a large 'doorway' in the mountain. He just walks out, and you can see cars parked near this exit. How come the locals wouldn't know about this passageway?

One scene involves Seagal being chased by a truck with the purpose of running Seagal off the road. Seagal is driving a pick up truck and every time it gets hit by the huge truck it damages Seagal's vehicle, but every scene is different. The window of Segal's truck is shattered once or twice and then in a front shot is intact. then a part of the windshield is broken, but then is OK, and then broken again.

When the 18-wheeler bumps repeatedly into the back of Segal's little pickup, the force would have spun it around and/or demolished it right on the highway. Not merely a small dent and a push forward.

There are some serious time contractions in this movie. Kris Kristofferson's son goes to visit him and is back within a day. This is from rural Kentucky to Atlantic City!

The Patriot:

None to speak of...

Ticker:

At the end when Nettles finds the bomb in City hall's basement and he is being told what to do by Glass, Glass tells him to feel the right side and he feels the left.

When they catch the tall bad guy in the police parking lot, Glass kicks the bumper and that makes the airbag pop out, but shouldn't the airbag start deflating immediately after?

Right at the beginning Glass says he has a count down, he says it's 1m42s but the clock says it's 1m46s.

When Nettles questions the girl the second time, right before he leaves he grabs her hands. We get a shot from the front and her hair is behind her ear. The shot changes to one from the side and her hair is loose, then again to the front and it's behind her ear again without her touching it.

Exit Wounds:

In the scene where Boyd is riding a bike down an alley trying to escape Useldinger & Montini he dodges two big trashcans but his followers hits them making them fly onto the street. In the scene where the two trashcan comes out on the street you can see a wire pulling one of them towards the phone booth.

Towards the beginning of the film, you see DMX and Anthony Anderson go to the sports car dealership in a yellow hummer to look for new nice car. There is an entire scene of DMX and Anderson looking around at the cars to make sure that they find the best one (along with some funny dialogue spoken between the car dealer and Anderson). After they choose which car they want, they drive off in it and you see them afterwards having a great time in it. But Anthony Anderson forgot his yellow hummer at the car dealership! Somehow though, it still appears in the next scene.

When the Boyd is held captive in the speeding black van, one of the captors is pushed out the side door by Boyd and is crushed when the passenger side of the van hits a row of parked cars and one of the side doors gets knocked off but in the next scene showing that side of the van both doors are in place undamaged.

The bridge scene at the beginning was filmed on two different months in Calgary shortly after bridge construction. One of the shots in the scene shows a stone lion statue on the side of the finished bridge. In other shots, the lions haven't been placed on the bridge yet.

In the beginning where everyone is on the bridge, one of the vans explodes and you can clearly see that the passenger and the driver are both dummies.

DMX changes from a sweat suit into a shiny crimson suit and leaves his apartment only to come back in the same sweat suit.

They repeatedly mention that the locale for the story is Detroit. However the film is obviously shot in Canada, and in fact it is shot in Toronto which is a city that many critics now recognise since the development of the Toronto Film Festival. You will see Roy Thompson Hall, and a sign that says Skydome. Why go to so much trouble to actually name an American city? It didn't really matter to the story as far as I can remember.

When Tom Arnold is bringing Boyd the info he requested he walks up to him and is placing his knapsack on his shoulder, the camera angle changes and Tom has the knapsack in his hands as he is walking up to him.

When Boyd is on the rooftop, he is holding the bottom of the ladder from the helicopter. A view from above shows marks from a previous take.

When DMX and Anthony Anderson are escaping from the club, watch DMX choose the right side of the double wide box (which is reinforced) to jump onto the dumpster while Anthony Anderson chooses the left side which collapses under his weight. Also watch when he removes his foot from the box. The camera angle changes and his foot is back in the box again.

In the scene where Steven Seagal extends his hand out to help the little girl up, he first puts out his left hand, then in the camera view you see his right hand being grabbed by the little girl, then when the view changes again, she is holding his left hand.

Right before the police chief dies in the car, Steven Seagal isn't in the right seat anymore. Then a second later he is jumping from the van.

When Strutt falls on the pipe from the rooftop, the above view shows him being punctured and still being a long way above the ground. The side view then shows that the pipe is much shorter than previously shown.

When meets the captain in the restaurant, watch the napkin. It has a mind of its own. It keeps on appearing in different places on the table.

Seagal's Dodge sticker is clearly on the bottom of the side window when he gets it. It has jumped to the top later on when thugs try to steal it.

When Seagal and DMX are watching the clips that they've been recording, one of the clips shows Michael Jai White's character speaking to DMX. White should have been looking towards the direction of the camera (because DMX has it on him).

In an early scene, Steven Seagal handcuffs Anthony Anderson to the grille of his Dodge truck. Upon his return, he finds Anderson and the truck's grille gone. Later in the film, the truck miraculously has its grille back. A few scenes later, when Segal confronts Anderson, he says "your grille is downstairs."
 

J.Lucas

Active Member
There's also mistakes in the mistake list......I've seen that page before and many of the erros are erros themselves...
Ex:Marked for Death....yeah the palm tree bit.....but it's Chicago ,Ill not Ohio.........etc,
and most can also be explained if you watch the movie and pay attention.......
John
 

Mama San

Administrator
The movie has never been made that
didn't have some mistakes in it. Some
more than others.
So they can't be limited to just Steven
Seagal movies, can they?
God bless,
Mama san
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
Justice - most people use their spare time here to go robbing cars... I use mine productively!

Amos - I don't watch THAT closely, although I noticed the one in Out For Justice about the dirty knees, which the dude at http://www.moviemistakes.com didn't seem to spot. Go there for more - there's some pretty interesting ones!

John - I agree that some of them are suspect, but most are plain old mistakes... The Matrix has something like 200 odd.

Mama - I wasn't trying to say that mistakes are limited to Seagal films, I just thought I'd start another 'interesting' thread, you see... hope you all don't mind. Hahaha - maybe this one will get more than 2 replies!

Glimmer
 

Mama San

Administrator
I didn't really think you were, G-Man!!
It was just a statement of clarification,
nothing more!!
I love ya, too!!
God bless,
Mama san
 

Amos Stevens

New Member
Well in any movie with all the people putting it together,you would think more of these mistakes would be caught & fixed before the movie is released..I think a lot of the times they just don't give a care & figure it would be too costly & time consuming to reshoot the scene
 

MMCK2

New Member
Another mistake I noticed from "Marked For Death" during the showdown with Screwface#1, is when Seagal chops the head off him - is that or is that not a pole sticking out of Screwface's ass? Seems to have been a dummy which was being operated by technicians on the set.

Speaking of movie mistakes, one of the most blatent I have ever seen is in "Predator"(1987), when Carl Weathers gets his arm lasered off by the creature, just as it falls off we see Carl's real arm hid up behind his back as a stomp is in place of the real one, but no attempt is made to hide this gaffe as he even turns his back to the camera and is not helped by the fact he is wearing a revealing vest! How the hell did an editor miss this? Another quite funny one when you think about it is from the Van Damme flick "Sudden Death" whereupon halfway through the film there is a shootout in a changing room at the Stanley Cup final stadium, whilst the final is being played yet it is never explained why none of the players became suspicious when coming into the changing rooms during the intervels, of the numerous dead bodies and bullet holes littered all around the place. A slight lapse of logic woud'nt you say?

It seems to me that the higher the budget of a film, the more mistakes/gaffes contained in it. Just look at "Terminator 2" or "The Matrix", the mistakes are well into the 100's.

A geat website to visit for such items of trivia is www.movie-mistakes.com There, you will discover a whole range of howlers from different movies.

Peace

MMCK
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
MMCK2 - isn't the pole sticking out of Screwface's ass, as you so charmingly put it(!) in Marked For Death Seagal's sword? If memory serves me correctly, he chops upwards into his gonads and then quickly brings the sword up and over to decapitate him doesn't he? Or is the 'pole' still sticking out of his ass after he loses his head?!
 

mandypuss

New Member
What a charming conversation you two are having MMCK2 & Glimmer. I think the point is (if you'll pardon the pun) that whatever Mr Screwface has sticking out of his ass ;) it would hurt, hence the name: Screwface.:p Sorry, couldnt help myself.:D
luv & peace
Mandy
 

Hallarian

New Member
I enjoyed your note G'Man. I also noticed.

In On Deadly Ground Steven asks the Inupiat native Alaskan woman if she can ride and she replies " Of course she's a Native American!" But Native Alaskans did not have horses at all until recent times and never in the Arctic. They used dogs and now snowmobiles. It's fun though. Just got home and leaving again right away. Play nice and stay away from nasty visuses. ;)
 

MMCK2

New Member
Originally posted by GlimmerMan
MMCK2 - isn't the pole sticking out of Screwface's ass, as you so charmingly put it(!) in Marked For Death Seagal's sword? If memory serves me correctly, he chops upwards into his gonads and then quickly brings the sword up and over to decapitate him doesn't he? Or is the 'pole' still sticking out of his ass after he loses his head?!

Such a thought provoking conversation we are having Glimmerman. LOL

I actually have watched the film quite recently on region 1 DVD and it is after Seagal chops Scewface's head off, that we see this 'asspole'. It looks like a dummy which was being operated by technicians using an old fashioned pole to control the movement of him falling to the floor after his head had been lopped off. Mind you the DVD I was watching was in widescreen and maybe this doesn't show up on the pan and scan TV and VHS versions.

Having watched this film in its entirity on region 1 I have to say that Seagal is probably the most fascist and brutal action star to ever grace the silver screen. Just look at his complete destruction of Screwface#2 where he gouges his eyes out then breaks his spine! These are also the reasons why he's probably my favourite action star in Hollywood!

Peace

MMCK
 

mandypuss

New Member
Guess what, Marked for Death is one of the movies I am finding it hard to buy. Now I will have to rent it again just to see the 'asspole'. I am truly dying to see it, you have my imagination going. Of course the thing is now when someone asks which Seagal movie is Marked For Death the eternal reply will be 'the one where the asshole gets the asspole'.:D ;) :cool:
luv & peace
Mandy
 
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