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Exact fact?

#1
Does anyone know the sir's exact date of birth. I know I have always seen it listed as 10 April, but different years, either 1951 or 1952. Anyone know for sure which it is? I doubt it, but just curious.

I also read in a GQ magazine I think it was back in the 1990 or 1991 that Seagal's name might have actually been Seigel or whatever the Jewish way of spelling it would be. Plus, it was rumored that he is Jewish and not Italian, again, I think in that same article.

I saw the Biography on A&E and I thought it was very interesting and entertaining. I think Seagal is great and like him very much. My problem with his background, not to mention nothing is ever said really to counter the allegations, is that he's been married 4 different times right? Why? Plus, how innocent is he really with the mafia stuff that was going on? Not to mention we don't know much else of what goes on in his life and I agree we should not because he does have a right to privacy. Then the white girl that use to be on some stupid show made allegations that he did something inapporpriate to her when she was trying out for Above the Law or something like that. I've heard allegations that he beat one or so of his wives or whatever too. Granted these are just allegations and their are many whom are jealous of him and things like that, especially in Hollywood, but it's still disturbing because I do like him and think he's awesome. I recall hearing a couple of years ago that he settled out of court with some girl on some type of lawsuit. Some do that to avoid the court costs but some do it because it's true and don't want the embarrassment. See what I mean? It's just a bunch of stuff to test or faith in how good of a man he really is. Now, I am not ttrying to say I'm a Saint, no way Jose, however, it is something that would be nice to have the truth to rather then just hearing about it and then wanting and wishing to assume the best in favor of Seagal Sensei.
Anyway, that's all for now my friends.
Replies welcome and requested.
God Bless.
 

Serena

Administrator
#2
Hi, Mr. Rooster. :) Everything you've mentioned here has been discussed many different times in the forum.

My personal philosophy is this and applies to everyone, celebrity or not: What's in the past should remain in the past, and we should live for the present and look forward to the future. And concentrate on the positive and good in people, instead of the negative. And don't believe everything you read. :D

Simple, I know, but it's served me well in my life. Just my opinion. :)
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
#3
His past is shrouded in mystery and i think he likes it that way. I am sure he is not that innocent in his past but we all have skeletons rattling away.
I know we'd like our filmstars to be good guys,but sometimes they are not.
 
#5
Well we have heard both years regarding his birth year...only place we could find out for sure would be his birth certificate which Suziwong hasn't found yet :) But heck what does it matter to be that precise.

Regarding the other stuff...would have to be answered by Seagal himself & in my opinion it ain't any of our beeswax. We weren't there at the time things may or may not have occurred so whose to say. In my opinion there has been a lot of incidents that have been named & can they all be lies? But like us Rooster he's a man who is human & makes mistakes.
 

suziwong

Administrator
Staff member
#6
Amos Stevens said:
Well we have heard both years regarding his birth year...only place we could find out for sure would be his birth certificate which Suziwong hasn't found yet :) But heck what does it matter to be that precise.

Regarding the other stuff...would have to be answered by Seagal himself & in my opinion it ain't any of our beeswax. We weren't there at the time things may or may not have occurred so whose to say. In my opinion there has been a lot of incidents that have been named & can they all be lies? But like us Rooster he's a man who is human & makes mistakes.

yes I didn't found birth certificate yet but A&E biography I have seen a article of newspaper or something like this his name was written
STEVE F. SEGAL !!!!
Of course I am not interest with his past but I am interest in his today !! :D
Amos and Serena are right.. he is human and I have learned I don't believe in bad things about him. He is steven Seagal and I admire him..
sincerely
 
#7
Geesh.

Thanks for the replies folks.
I agree, it is in the past and all that stuff. Just something to discuss here. Agreed whole heartedly we all do have things in our past that we would prefer not mentioned regularly, I do too. No doubt about that. I was just thinking and typing to get people's feedback here is all.
The reason mainly I am so interested in knowing the sir's exact date of birth is because I wanted to know whether he is a Rabbit or a Dragon in Eastern Astrology.
The mafia stuff I think has been blown way out of proportion by the media. I think it's ok to know and even be friends with some of those guys if you know them. Plus, if your around them your eventually going to befriend them and stuff like that, that much is probably just natural. Unfortuantely for Seagal Sensei he made the mistake of trusting somebody he thought was good and they ended up stabbing him in the back [Julius Nasso].
Don't misunderstand me my friends I am just trying to discern what is fact and what's BS from the background we've been given from the media. I do think to some extent that celeberties ought to take the responsibility to discern fact from BS on what the media puts out there instead of just leaving it in limbo. I think Seagal Sensei does not respond to be classy and let people think what they want since it is impossible to have everyone like you anyway. However, I like the way I think it was the rock group Creed took care of some negative things said about them from other bands or whatever. They had a spokeperson say very politely to their fans that the allegations were not true and wished the bands spoke bad of them luck and good fortune in the future. I thought that too was a classy way of dealing with jealous peers and such. With my experience and background, I do think that is what Seagal seems to do as far as keepinbg his mouth shut publicly and letting the people make their own conclusions. The only allegation that was ever disturbing to me was when he settled out of court with some girl about some type of abuse. Again, with my experience and background this usually implies one of two things, either guilt which includes avoiding the court case and facts coming out that might be true or some facts coming that might look like the allegations are true. Or, just avoiding the huge court costs that often times cost more then the settlement itself plus the fact that sometimes those type of allegations carry prison sentences if you allow yourself to go to court if you had and opportunity to settle out of court if the other person's motivation in the first place was to get rich off of your/there good fortune.

Yes, I know this has been discussed before on the board. Time goes on though and people find things out that's why I decided to write this and ask in case I missed something. After all, this is why we come to a forum/messageboard in the first place right?

Take care all.
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
#8
Mr Rooster i always wondered why do you call him The Sir? Just curious. Here,it is a title you get with a knighthood from our old bat (the queen:D).
 
#9
You should not call that old bat your queen an old bat

Storm said:
Mr Rooster i always wondered why do you call him The Sir? Just curious. Here,it is a title you get with a knighthood from our old bat (the queen:D).

I meant to bring this up and when you said the queen I remembered!
I don't know how you feel about Princess Diana, but I loved her and when she married Prince Charles I did say(and i do have witness's) that would not work.
She looked warm and he looks sooooooo cold!

When she died I was heartbroken, I felt more sorry for those two little boys than i did anyone because I knew they were going to grow up with only those cold, cold people called the Royal Family!

When Prince Harry showed up last week at that party with the Nazi thing on
I am so sorry but I had to say "she left something behind"!

I hope no one is offended and I know this is not the right thread but I was here!
I am sure the Royal Family is honored highly over there, I myself find the whole king queen prince princess thing very romantic, but these people treated Diana like dirt! Harry did wrong but they deserve the embrassment!

Storm are you doing okay?
 

Storm

Smile dammit!
#10
I agree 100%. I am anti-royalist anyway.The Queen is the richest woman in the world yet hoards her wealth like an old miser and never does anything to help the old and poor here.They are a tourist attraction and sometimes a very embarrassing one.

Yes Harry did wear that nazi uniform to a fancy dress party but he's just a kid. The reaction in the media has been ridiculous,practically wanting his head! It's a shame his older brother William (who was there) did not have a word to change.

But if any of them were worth anything it was Diana.I think we all fell for her beauty and charm. She deserved a lot better than old big ears! It's one of the great mysteries why he wanted Camilla,who was married herself and hardly a beauty.
When you die young like she did you are immortalised. She will always be loved by the public here..
Ps. Fergie was treated like a dog too..worse!
 
#11
Yes, I knew about Fergie, neither girl stood a chance! They had to much life in them!
I hope Harry is hell on wheels, and a royal pain in there a**!
 
#12
I also read the comment on your website yesterday, I didn't want to comment there because I could not tell if that lady was serious or not and I did not want to be cruel and make fun if she was serious! Did you read it about control of her body?
 
#14
And so I'll stick to the present.What we have now is today's Seagal probably made out of yesterday's mistakes and a bunch of insane fans of today's Seagal looking back upon his mistakes of yesterday...Aren't we making a mistake?:D
 

Anneliese

Happy go Lucky
#15
Nobody is perfect,not even the person we admire the most.There is only one that is,and it is the man upstairs!!!.And don't always believe what you hear and read.And like I said before,there is something good in each of us.

Anneliese
 
#16
good points

tora said:
And so I'll stick to the present.What we have now is today's Seagal probably made out of yesterday's mistakes and a bunch of insane fans of today's Seagal looking back upon his mistakes of yesterday...Aren't we making a mistake?:D
Good point Tora. I think if we judge him for those mistakes we are making extreme error.

Danger! Danger ! Danger Will Robinson!
Remember that show. Lost in Space . LOL .

( I think now I am giving my age away) toodles !
 
#17
Lollipop and Tora.

Lollipop:
Not garbage that your posting. Seagal was a friend of the Egyptian that died with her, so it is ok and fitting to be put here. I think he did some protection work for him at some point in his life or provided a team or something along those lines.


Tora:
It's hardly ever a mistake to analyze a situation when you have time to do so. Wise humans do it and have done it since existance of humans began. I would guess that all of us here or at least most of us love Seagal as fans of his. As fans, I do not think it's unreasonable to discuss on a forum with other fans the information we've been given from the media. Yes, most wise persons here would guess alot of that is probably garbage given to us from the media but that is just the way it is. That's what we have, so let's try to figure fact from BS. No, we probably won't be able to here but just like the O.J. case, eventually the cases facts will come out in the open.
Yes, I think most of it if not all of it is garbage against Seagal. I was originally just writing this to see if since my last time being here maybe anyone found out some new stuff. No way do I think Seagal's a bad guy or would harm a woman on purpose. I think alot of that is garbage. Again, I was truly just checking if maybe anyone had anything new. I'm assuming the answer is no with know one adding anything new here.
Anyway, byt the way, since I mentioned O.J. I would like to go on the record here officially that I think O.J. is and was guilty of the double murder. Fortunately for O.J. he had a Detective on his case that made enough noise personally to take the heat off of O.J. with it, not to mention the fact that I think most of America at that point in time, epsecially California was afraid of more race riots and that is the main reason in my opinion that O.J. was acquitted.
 
#18
That too is true, good and bad is in everybody and nobody is perfect. All of this is true. I still do not think Seagal did the garbage that the media has reported at least not in the exact context as the report it in. I don't think it would be fair at all to judge Seagal by the junk the media has given about his past over the years. The stories came from somewhere though and I'd like for them to be washed up/cleaned, especially from the sir's reputation. These nasty stories the media puts out about Seagal are probably almsot all like the crap they put out about Bush when all of those mislead Democrats wanted Kerry as the next President.