Nervous in the 'hood

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
My 'hood, that is.

Three times in the last three weeks I've heard gun shots. Always just two shots - bang (pause) - bang.

Thursday night I called 911 and reported it. Police came, said they checked around, talked to people out and about (at 1:30 in the morning?) who said they didn't hear anything, so of course the police doubted me and I felt pretty dumb.

Saturday night, again, two shots. I didn't call it in.

However, someone else did, and this time, they seemed to take it more seriously. About 10 patrol cars turned up, and this time they found the bullet casings.

Again, it was just two shots.

Tonight I slipped out to the corner shop after 10 p.m. and on my way back home, walked past a guy who was holding a gun in his hand, partially concealed by the sleeve of his hoodie, but showing enough of the barrel so that it was unmistakable as to what it was.

I was in the police station earlier today asking whether I should call if I see or hear anything suspicious, having felt after Thursday's sceptical reception by the patrol officers - they hadn't even bothered to take my name or other information - that I shouldn't bother, to save myself embarrassment. After I saw gun-holding guy, I waited about 7 minutes before I decided I should call.

What police told me this afternoon was that there was a turf war going on and the two shots were scare tactics against dealers the local lads didn't want encroaching on their territory.

This used to be a pretty clean neighbourhood. However, last year, the city, in its infinite lack of wisdom, decided to handle the problems occurring at a notorious low-income housing project in the city ("Regent Park") by demolishing the project and put in big ticket condos in their stead, and by distributing the ousted residents amongst other city housing projects, and decided the best place to put them was in the four projects in my neighbourhood.

Ever since the Regent Park transfers got here, things have been going from okay to bad and from bad to worse. The local residents protested about the dumping of the Regent Park problems on us, but the city housing authority didn't give a rat's ass about the problems they were going to create - they just wanted the problem out of Regent Park so that the folks paying half a million dollars for the condos going up there would feel safe.

I can't believe I saw this individual openly walking around with a gun his hand, bold as brass, like he owned the place.

I'm not going out after dark any more, I can tell you.

There's not much scares me, but this does.
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
I know this is easy to say TD but girl why dont you move?..if you are anything like me my home is my castle and no way would some spaced out **** make me leave my area only the other day the guy next to me had his car broken into and an couple of things stolen and when the police came around it was all to hard for them to do there job...if anything happened to my car or home i will take an line out of A.T.L. 'You might be above the law but you aint above mine'...in other words the crims might get into my place but they wont leave ..Be safe girl..
 

Anneliese

Happy go Lucky
TDWoj;177369 said:
My 'hood, that is.

Three times in the last three weeks I've heard gun shots. Always just two shots - bang (pause) - bang.

Thursday night I called 911 and reported it. Police came, said they checked around, talked to people out and about (at 1:30 in the morning?) who said they didn't hear anything, so of course the police doubted me and I felt pretty dumb.

Saturday night, again, two shots. I didn't call it in.

However, someone else did, and this time, they seemed to take it more seriously. About 10 patrol cars turned up, and this time they found the bullet casings.

Again, it was just two shots.

Tonight I slipped out to the corner shop after 10 p.m. and on my way back home, walked past a guy who was holding a gun in his hand, partially concealed by the sleeve of his hoodie, but showing enough of the barrel so that it was unmistakable as to what it was.

I was in the police station earlier today asking whether I should call if I see or hear anything suspicious, having felt after Thursday's sceptical reception by the patrol officers - they hadn't even bothered to take my name or other information - that I shouldn't bother, to save myself embarrassment. After I saw gun-holding guy, I waited about 7 minutes before I decided I should call.

What police told me this afternoon was that there was a turf war going on and the two shots were scare tactics against dealers the local lads didn't want encroaching on their territory.

This used to be a pretty clean neighbourhood. However, last year, the city, in its infinite lack of wisdom, decided to handle the problems occurring at a notorious low-income housing project in the city ("Regent Park") by demolishing the project and put in big ticket condos in their stead, and by distributing the ousted residents amongst other city housing projects, and decided the best place to put them was in the four projects in my neighbourhood.

Ever since the Regent Park transfers got here, things have been going from okay to bad and from bad to worse. The local residents protested about the dumping of the Regent Park problems on us, but the city housing authority didn't give a rat's ass about the problems they were going to create - they just wanted the problem out of Regent Park so that the folks paying half a million dollars for the condos going up there would feel safe.

I can't believe I saw this individual openly walking around with a gun his hand, bold as brass, like he owned the place.

I'm not going out after dark any more, I can tell you.

There's not much scares me, but this does.

That sounds pretty scary to say the least!!! One never knows what can happen to your neighborhood!!!

People are getting pretty bold with guns, sounds like!!!
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
ORANGATUANG;177370 said:
I know this is easy to say TD but girl why dont you move?..if you are anything like me my home is my castle and no way would some spaced out **** make me leave my area only the other day the guy next to me had his car broken into and an couple of things stolen and when the police came around it was all to hard for them to do there job...if anything happened to my car or home i will take an line out of A.T.L. 'You might be above the law but you aint above mine'...in other words the crims might get into my place but they wont leave ..Be safe girl..

Problem is, I have nowhere to go. Can't afford to move, and even if I could, where in the city is it safe these days, anyway?

The public housing people have closed numerous complexes and are shifting the people into every area (except the truly upscale) of the city. The idea is, if they move into a "nice" neighbourhood, they'll rise to the neighbourhood's standards.

Yeah. Right.

What really happens is the neighbourhood goes steadily downhill, until it's a cesspool of crime and all the "nice" people start moving out, for their own safety.

Tonight, three more shots. Police did turn up, said they were just kids with firecrackers. If that's true, the dealers are smarter than we think. They fool the folks in the neighbourhood with firecrackers a couple of times, then when the real gun fire starts, no one's going to call, or even if they do, the police will think it's the cry of "wolf" again and not take it seriously.

Nerves are being shattered around here.

And it wasn't firecrackers. Unless they were firecrackers as long as my fist, the little 1 or 2 inch ones do not make that loud, or deep, a noise.

We've got an informal neighbourhood watch going, and we've figured out that the runners and lookouts have a "colour of the day" for t-shirts, alternating between black, red and white. They ride bicycles, and are usually in the vicinity of the gun shots when they occur. They disappear like smoke when the police come, stash their bikes, then come back all casual like to mingle with the crowd to hear what people are saying.

What's really irritating is that a bunch of old ladies - myself among them - have figured out this tactic, mostly because we're around to see what happens, but the police are pooh-poohing our observations.

I keep suggesting we have a community meeting. It looks like I'm the one that's going to have to arrange it because while everyone says, yes, let's do it, no one seems to be taking the lead on this.

"Someone should".

Uh huh.

It's called "apathy".
 

ORANGATUANG

Wildfire
Your welcome here any time girl...when you win the lotto go buy yourself an condo...seriously TD take care ..
 

Mama San

Administrator
Please, dear friend, take good care of yourself!
Question: Won't the police "help out" to join in
a community meeting so thay can advise the
neighborhood members? Set up a time and place
for the meeting and make sure that everyone of
your neighbors are aware of it. Check with the
police and perhaps you can get them to send a
representative to the meeting. After all, that is
their job! Just tell them that it would be much
better than it would for every decent person in
the neighborhood to start carrying their own weapons!
........and you're right! Don't go out after dark, by
yourself! A lone woman is an easy target!
Be as safe as you can be, my friend!
God bless,
Mama san
 

TDWoj

Administrator
Staff member
I've floated the idea of a community meeting but suddenly all support for it fizzled away. It's easy to talk about setting up meetings, actually doing the work to make it happen - that's something else.

Grr.

I'm not worried about being accosted at night. Since I started taking aikido, I'm walking with better posture - straight back, shoulders relaxed but square, eyes watchful. It's not helpful against random gunfire, of course, but then, what is?

Last night was interesting. Not one runner/lookout in the neighbourhood to be seen anywhere. I think maybe the fact people are calling the police and the police are coming out promptly might have given the bad guys some pause.

Of course, it just might mean they're regrouping. They're very well-organized.
 

Mama San

Administrator
I do hope you're right about the police! A lot of people become very
frightened when even talking about doing anything against the hooligans!
Hopefully, the police with continue to make their presence known and that
could send those creeps somewhere else. The "Neighborhood Watch"
is a very good idea. But the police cannot ever ignore a phone call from
your neighborhood or you all will be right back where you all started.
Take care, my friend. I will keep you in my prayers!
God bless,
Mama san
 

GlimmerMan

Huge Member
Wouldn't like to be a cop in your neighbourhood, TD. Unless I could wander round with a helicopter mounted mini gun, that is.
 
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